2010 Ford Mustang Quieter Where It Counts
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2010 Ford Mustang Quieter Where It Counts
2010 FORD MUSTANG QUIETER WHERE IT COUNTS
- Addition of sound absorptive and damping materials improves sound level in cabin
- Tuning of induction system and exhaust enhances heritage Mustang sound
- Integrated teamwork by designers, engineers key to solving wind, road noise issues
You know it when you hear it: that muscular burble at idle that transforms into an aggressive roar under hard acceleration. For 2010, Noise, Vibration and Harshness (NVH) engineers for the Mustang focused on eliminating the unwanted sounds while maintaining the classic note of America’s favorite muscle car.
“We wanted to improve the driving environment for the customer. While you’re travelling down the road, it’s now much easier to have a conversation with your passengers, but when you stand on the gas, you still hear the roar of the engine and the sweet sound of the exhaust,” said Greg Wayne, NVH supervisor for the Mustang. “We maintained that Mustang characteristic sound, but made the whole driving experience much more enjoyable.”
The Mustang NVH team knows how important the sound of the Mustang is to its longstanding fans. They also are aware of how unwanted, unrefined noise detracts from the customer’s experience. So the team used a variety of methods and solutions to keep – and even enhance – Mustang’s heritage sound while eliminating unwanted noise.
Customers grapple with road noise, wind noise, powertrain whines, buzzes and booms – among others. Even storage compartments and doors on the new 2010 Mustang were “tuned” to create a more pleasing sound.
Wayne said the NVH team worked closely with their colleagues in Design Engineering and Manufacturing and Assembly to integrate the solutions, which sometimes were neither obvious nor easy.
“Wind noise, for example, is not only about adding absorption and deadening materials,” he said. “It’s also paying attention to the design details: for instance, where the radio antenna is located, how the wiper blades are styled and positioned relative to the hood and glass and how the exterior mirrors are shaped and mounted. There are many aspects from a design and assembly perspective you have to be aware of because each contributes to the overall sound quality you experience inside the car.”
On 2010 Mustang, the radio antenna was moved to the rear, creating a cleaner look on the front end as well as reducing wind noise. The mirrors were redesigned, resulting in aerodynamic gains and reducing wind noise. Those types of win-win solutions were the product of the teams setting a high baseline of expectation and working together diligently to make sure the designs met their targets every step of the way.
“One of the guiding principles for Ford NVH is 'Feels Right, Sounds Tight,’ ” Wayne said. “Door opening and closing falls right into our efforts to create a solid, vault-like sound when you close the door and that positive ‘snick’ and feel when you open it. A lot of factors play into that in terms of the door hardware – latches, strikers, sheet metal.”
Another door-closing variable involves the pressure wave it creates inside the vehicle. “How well the vehicle is sealed affects your door-closing efforts,” he added. “Design Engineering and NVH spent a lot of time on those details to get it just right. ”
Two of the most important tools used to control sound and vibration are the absorptive and damping materials. Absorptive materials are something akin to stuffing ear plugs or cotton into someone’s ears, keeping out loud noises while damping materials help reduce vibration.
Wayne said both were used strategically throughout the 2010 Mustang in areas such as the passenger side dash, trunk, hood, headliner and interior trim.
Mustang also features an industry-first Induction Sound Tube (IST), which enhances the driving experience by piping the sound of the induction system directly into the passenger compartment.
The revised Cold Air Induction system yields increased power but cuts out a significant portion of the interior sound and the character that customers want to hear. The IST was developed and tuned to recover and enhance that character.
The trick part of the system is that the potential for the aftermarket to develop custom tuning is highly likely, which is good news for Mustang – one of the industry’s most-customized vehicles.
“You still get to experience that distinctive Mustang sound our customers love,” Wayne said. “We just eliminated many of the noises and vibrations you don’t want to hear and feel on the new 2010 Mustang.”
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"Mustang also features an industry-first Induction Sound Tube (IST), which enhances the driving experience by piping the sound of the induction system directly into the passenger compartment.
The revised Cold Air Induction system yields increased power but cuts out a significant portion of the interior sound and the character that customers want to hear. The IST was developed and tuned to recover and enhance that character."
Isn't this kinda weird? I don't want to hear my induction system, unless it's a super charger. I don't get it.
The revised Cold Air Induction system yields increased power but cuts out a significant portion of the interior sound and the character that customers want to hear. The IST was developed and tuned to recover and enhance that character."
Isn't this kinda weird? I don't want to hear my induction system, unless it's a super charger. I don't get it.
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"Mustang also features an industry-first Induction Sound Tube (IST), which enhances the driving experience by piping the sound of the induction system directly into the passenger compartment.
The revised Cold Air Induction system yields increased power but cuts out a significant portion of the interior sound and the character that customers want to hear. The IST was developed and tuned to recover and enhance that character."
Isn't this kinda weird? I don't want to hear my induction system, unless it's a super charger. I don't get it.
The revised Cold Air Induction system yields increased power but cuts out a significant portion of the interior sound and the character that customers want to hear. The IST was developed and tuned to recover and enhance that character."
Isn't this kinda weird? I don't want to hear my induction system, unless it's a super charger. I don't get it.
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Well I will say this - my good buddy has a Mazda Speed3 that we put a new open element CAI on
The filter is tucked up on the drivers side and to get to it you have to go through the driver side wheel well. It is pretty close to the firewall.
Ever since install, when he gives it any kind of substantial gas, you can hear the air being sucked right into the CAI....... its actually pretty darn cool.
The filter is tucked up on the drivers side and to get to it you have to go through the driver side wheel well. It is pretty close to the firewall.
Ever since install, when he gives it any kind of substantial gas, you can hear the air being sucked right into the CAI....... its actually pretty darn cool.
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Yeah... ever since I upgraded to a C&L Intake, I can hear it sucking air every time I make a quick increase of throttle. It literally sounds like "ssswwhiifffPPP" for about 0.5 seconds.
Makes me punch the throttle alot more. Maybe you can hear that now with the stock intake?
Makes me punch the throttle alot more. Maybe you can hear that now with the stock intake?
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Yeah... ever since I upgraded to a C&L Intake, I can hear it sucking air every time I make a quick increase of throttle. It literally sounds like "ssswwhiifffPPP" for about 0.5 seconds.
Makes me punch the throttle alot more. Maybe you can hear that now with the stock intake?
Makes me punch the throttle alot more. Maybe you can hear that now with the stock intake?
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Me, too. The one major issue I have long had with Mustangs is road noise. Drove my '94 from Virginia to Texas one year and actually lost the hearing in my left ear going across Arkansas! Didn't come back until I was west of Dallas!!
The '06 I have now is much better, but some of the local pavements still overpower conversation. If they have significantly improved the NVH in the '10, then there will be no doubt I will trade up (although probably not 'til '11 with the new powertrains).
I am impressed with Ford's efforts to sophisticate the Mustang without losing its fundamental nature. Truly broadening its already wide appeal.
Now if they would just add IRS, Bose audio, and AWD it'd be the perfect all-season personal sports coupe![Biggrinjester](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrinjester.gif)
The '06 I have now is much better, but some of the local pavements still overpower conversation. If they have significantly improved the NVH in the '10, then there will be no doubt I will trade up (although probably not 'til '11 with the new powertrains).
I am impressed with Ford's efforts to sophisticate the Mustang without losing its fundamental nature. Truly broadening its already wide appeal.
Now if they would just add IRS, Bose audio, and AWD it'd be the perfect all-season personal sports coupe
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That's the Coolest Thing I ever Heard! Piping the Induction Sound into the Passenger Compartment. If somebody had done that on their own they would have probably been Razzed Bigtime. I think Ford Just Started a New FAD. I like it!
BTW, Don't Try this with your Exhaust! Remember the Movie Thunderbolt and Lightfoot. Just Kidding!
Maybe it's Piped into the A/C Vents for SUPER COOL AIR! Kidding Again!
Also Since that Hose is After the MAF it must have Some Kind of Restrictor Baffle in it. I am Quite Curious at seeing this Setup in the Flesh.
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Mustang also features an industry-first Induction Sound Tube (IST), which enhances the driving experience by piping the sound of the induction system directly into the passenger compartment.
The revised Cold Air Induction system yields increased power but cuts out a significant portion of the interior sound and the character that customers want to hear. The IST was developed and tuned to recover and enhance that character.
The trick part of the system is that the potential for the aftermarket to develop custom tuning is highly likely, which is good news for Mustang – one of the industry’s most-customized vehicles.
“You still get to experience that distinctive Mustang sound our customers love,” Wayne said. “We just eliminated many of the noises and vibrations you don’t want to hear and feel on the new 2010 Mustang.”
This has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard of. They should have taken the research time on this and used it to make a rear end that doesn't look horrible.
The revised Cold Air Induction system yields increased power but cuts out a significant portion of the interior sound and the character that customers want to hear. The IST was developed and tuned to recover and enhance that character.
The trick part of the system is that the potential for the aftermarket to develop custom tuning is highly likely, which is good news for Mustang – one of the industry’s most-customized vehicles.
“You still get to experience that distinctive Mustang sound our customers love,” Wayne said. “We just eliminated many of the noises and vibrations you don’t want to hear and feel on the new 2010 Mustang.”
This has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard of. They should have taken the research time on this and used it to make a rear end that doesn't look horrible.
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I am not sure I want to hear the intake noise in the cabin. The roar or a finely tuned V-8 is good enough for me. When I was a young driver back in the 70's, us boys used to flip the air cleaner top cover upside down so the carberator noise was audible. I hope it doesn't sound like that. It was pretty dumb sounding as I recall.
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I am a fan of the Induction Sound Tube (IST). The main reason people buy exhaust systems is to hear the engine. Now that the 2010 has more sound deadening it may be harder to hear the exhaust note. This is an innovative solution for gear heads that can not get enough of that classic V8 rumble.
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Because the speakers are precisely matched and tuned to the actual interior of each model car into which they are installed, instead of mass-produced (however good quality), generic speakers that are just slapped into whatever convenient hole or crevice offers itself. The soundstage in Bose-equipped vehicles is phenomenal - the actual speakers really do disappear from the listener's perception.
Besides, did you miss the jesters? The whole paragraph was a joke...
Besides, did you miss the jesters? The whole paragraph was a joke...
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Because the speakers are precisely matched and tuned to the actual interior of each model car into which they are installed, instead of mass-produced (however good quality), generic speakers that are just slapped into whatever convenient hole or crevice offers itself. The soundstage in Bose-equipped vehicles is phenomenal - the actual speakers really do disappear from the listener's perception.
Besides, did you miss the jesters? The whole paragraph was a joke...
Besides, did you miss the jesters? The whole paragraph was a joke...
Yeah, I know it was a joke, I just hate anything Bose.