09 Mustang Wheels
#21
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GTJOHN @ March 8, 2006, 10:20 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I don't want to get too far off this topic, but can somebody please list or tell me where I can find the weight(s) of the Mustang GT from 1982 - present? Thanks!
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i dunno from 82 but
from 88... all of these are based on hardtop with V8 and 5-speed manuel.
88
GT Hatch 3193
89-90
GT Hatch 3191
LX Hatch 3102
LX coupe 3037
91-93
GT Hatch 3144
LX Hatch 3096
LX coupe 3037
93 Cobra 3255
94
GT 3276
95
GT 3281
Cobra 3354
96
GT 3278
Cobra 3393
97-98
GT 3227
Cobra 3364
99-02
GT 3237
Cobra 3413
03-04
GT 3273
Mach 3465
Cobra 3665
05
GT 3450
I don't want to get too far off this topic, but can somebody please list or tell me where I can find the weight(s) of the Mustang GT from 1982 - present? Thanks!
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i dunno from 82 but
from 88... all of these are based on hardtop with V8 and 5-speed manuel.
88
GT Hatch 3193
89-90
GT Hatch 3191
LX Hatch 3102
LX coupe 3037
91-93
GT Hatch 3144
LX Hatch 3096
LX coupe 3037
93 Cobra 3255
94
GT 3276
95
GT 3281
Cobra 3354
96
GT 3278
Cobra 3393
97-98
GT 3227
Cobra 3364
99-02
GT 3237
Cobra 3413
03-04
GT 3273
Mach 3465
Cobra 3665
05
GT 3450
#22
wow...the S197 GT isnt really too much heavier than the SN95 considering the past....5.1% heavier
#23
I'd love to see some of the explanations behind those increases & decreases because some of the years seem off.
For instance, the 89 and 90 weigh the same but the 90 is heavier than the 91. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/headscratch.gif[/img] Seems to me like the 90 would be grouped in with the 91-93. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif[/img]
Also, wouldn't the 99 & 00 be the same and the 01-04?
For instance, the 89 and 90 weigh the same but the 90 is heavier than the 91. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/headscratch.gif[/img] Seems to me like the 90 would be grouped in with the 91-93. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif[/img]
Also, wouldn't the 99 & 00 be the same and the 01-04?
#24
You won't see 19's from the factory.....Ford Racing, possibly, but not on the option list IMO.
There is no need for rims larger than 18's from the factory IMO. Rubber and rims (which will likely need to be lighter) and engineering to make it work become too costly for Ford. 18's are more than large enough for 95% of the people out there.
There is no need for rims larger than 18's from the factory IMO. Rubber and rims (which will likely need to be lighter) and engineering to make it work become too costly for Ford. 18's are more than large enough for 95% of the people out there.
#25
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mobster @ March 9, 2006, 12:53 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
on the topic of vehicle weight...
the new stang comes out in 2010 right?
THIS new technology should be in use by 2010
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Retrofit kit for 05's maybe? I coulda sworn that there was something like this already in use on the S197...I think in the doors.
on the topic of vehicle weight...
the new stang comes out in 2010 right?
THIS new technology should be in use by 2010
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Retrofit kit for 05's maybe? I coulda sworn that there was something like this already in use on the S197...I think in the doors.
#26
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(StangNut @ March 11, 2006, 5:51 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I'd love to see some of the explanations behind those increases & decreases because some of the years seem off.
For instance, the 89 and 90 weigh the same but the 90 is heavier than the 91. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/headscratch.gif[/img] Seems to me like the 90 would be grouped in with the 91-93. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif[/img]
Also, wouldn't the 99 & 00 be the same and the 01-04?
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Well part of the weight variance from 99-00 and 01-04 would be the introduction of the tacked on hood scoop and larger side scoops. Wheels changed in 01 also to bullit style if I am remembering correctly (don't know the weight, but they look heavier??) Radio changed to a 6 disc in dash changer. Your only talking a 36lbs increase.
I'd love to see some of the explanations behind those increases & decreases because some of the years seem off.
For instance, the 89 and 90 weigh the same but the 90 is heavier than the 91. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/headscratch.gif[/img] Seems to me like the 90 would be grouped in with the 91-93. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif[/img]
Also, wouldn't the 99 & 00 be the same and the 01-04?
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Well part of the weight variance from 99-00 and 01-04 would be the introduction of the tacked on hood scoop and larger side scoops. Wheels changed in 01 also to bullit style if I am remembering correctly (don't know the weight, but they look heavier??) Radio changed to a 6 disc in dash changer. Your only talking a 36lbs increase.
#27
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(I8URVTEC @ March 6, 2006, 9:55 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I still think anything over 18" is really starting to add too much unsprung weight.
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Thats what I think too
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>In fact history is starting to repeat itself. Before long we'll have a car as big and ugly as the 71-73. Then they'll be another gas crisis and we all know what would come next. The Mustang II![/b][/quote]by StangNut
OH NO NOT THE MUSTANG II AGAIN. NO MORE LAZY ENGINES. AND THE 71 73 WAS NOT UGLY.
I still think anything over 18" is really starting to add too much unsprung weight.
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Thats what I think too
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>In fact history is starting to repeat itself. Before long we'll have a car as big and ugly as the 71-73. Then they'll be another gas crisis and we all know what would come next. The Mustang II![/b][/quote]by StangNut
OH NO NOT THE MUSTANG II AGAIN. NO MORE LAZY ENGINES. AND THE 71 73 WAS NOT UGLY.
#28
I agree about why they changed. My point was the years listed. Just like you said in your explanation, the changes should have come between the '00 & '01 model years and not 02-03 as listed before. (see below)
99-02
GT 3237
Cobra 3413
03-04
GT 3273
Mach 3465
Cobra 3665
GT 3237
Cobra 3413
03-04
GT 3273
Mach 3465
Cobra 3665
#30
Originally Posted by StangNut
I agree about why they changed. My point was the years listed. Just like you said in your explanation, the changes should have come between the '00 & '01 model years and not 02-03 as listed before. (see below)
the weights should have been for the GT's 3237 in 99-00 and 01-04 was 3273.
sorry my mistake
#31
QUOTE:
In fact history is starting to repeat itself. Before long we'll have a car as big and ugly as the 71-73. Then they'll be another gas crisis and we all know what would come next. The Mustang II!
by StangNut
OH NO NOT THE MUSTANG II AGAIN. NO MORE LAZY ENGINES. AND THE 71 73 WAS NOT UGLY.
I do sort of wish Ford would get ahead of the curve a bit on the weight/efficiency thing rather than the easy recourse of ever bigger, more powerful motors in ever bigger, fatter cars. The late '60's and '70's ought to have served as a lesson as to the vulnerabilities of that simplistic if short-sighted approach.
My ideal would have been for the Stang to hold to the 2800-3100lb weight range and perhaps a slightly more compact, aerodynamic form. Such an approach can realize benefits not only at the gas pump, which would quickly pay for extra purchase costs, but also ALL aspects of performance -- acceleration, top speed, handling and braking.
Maybe once gas hits $4+/gal, a not unlikely prospect in the future...
In fact history is starting to repeat itself. Before long we'll have a car as big and ugly as the 71-73. Then they'll be another gas crisis and we all know what would come next. The Mustang II!
by StangNut
OH NO NOT THE MUSTANG II AGAIN. NO MORE LAZY ENGINES. AND THE 71 73 WAS NOT UGLY.
I do sort of wish Ford would get ahead of the curve a bit on the weight/efficiency thing rather than the easy recourse of ever bigger, more powerful motors in ever bigger, fatter cars. The late '60's and '70's ought to have served as a lesson as to the vulnerabilities of that simplistic if short-sighted approach.
My ideal would have been for the Stang to hold to the 2800-3100lb weight range and perhaps a slightly more compact, aerodynamic form. Such an approach can realize benefits not only at the gas pump, which would quickly pay for extra purchase costs, but also ALL aspects of performance -- acceleration, top speed, handling and braking.
Maybe once gas hits $4+/gal, a not unlikely prospect in the future...
#32
Don't worry about 18 - 20 inch wheels. They are made from aluminum! 19 - 23 lbs.
The Mustang wheels we polish are forged by Alcoa. They look like the old Marauder wheel.
I don't know who makes the other polished wheels, but they look like they are Casted. But, they should be fairly light considering that they are made of aluminum.
Thanks for the Mustang GT weights!
The Mustang wheels we polish are forged by Alcoa. They look like the old Marauder wheel.
I don't know who makes the other polished wheels, but they look like they are Casted. But, they should be fairly light considering that they are made of aluminum.
Thanks for the Mustang GT weights!
#33
All of the research I have done shows no benefit for wheels over 18 inches. The FR500 Mustang uses 18" wheels on race day and 20" for photo shoots. The 18" wheels weigh 5 to 6 pounds more than 17" wheels. 19" wheels would probably weigh 7-8 pounds more than 18" wheels. Chevy even admits the Cobalt SS Supercharged is .1 seconds slower 0-60 do to heavier 18" wheels.
#34
If Ford wants to do it right, they have to get the weight down. Get it around 3200, maybe 3300 max, and increase the HP to at least 400HP.
Just look at the latest article with the GT500 verses the Vette. The GT500 has 100 MORE HP but still can not out perform the Vette because it is TOO heavy. Drop the weight and increase everything about the Mustang.
Also, why is such a Awesome car limited to 300 HP stock? I mean there are other V-8s with 400-450 HP all natural. Or some V-6's getting 300 HP. Maybe the added weight of the back seat is the doom, but I dont think so. I know Ford can lighten the load, and maybe offer a 400 HP 5.4 L for the GT, reserve the 5.4 Supercharged or a larger displacement for the GT350, GT500, Mach1, or whatever other special they are working on.
Just look at the latest article with the GT500 verses the Vette. The GT500 has 100 MORE HP but still can not out perform the Vette because it is TOO heavy. Drop the weight and increase everything about the Mustang.
Also, why is such a Awesome car limited to 300 HP stock? I mean there are other V-8s with 400-450 HP all natural. Or some V-6's getting 300 HP. Maybe the added weight of the back seat is the doom, but I dont think so. I know Ford can lighten the load, and maybe offer a 400 HP 5.4 L for the GT, reserve the 5.4 Supercharged or a larger displacement for the GT350, GT500, Mach1, or whatever other special they are working on.
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