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Old 10/4/12 | 12:42 PM
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Why not both??

With the cost of the new electrics and hybrids why cant we have both?


the cmax and the new all electric focus coming out just make me ask one thing.. why cant they make a full electric with a backup gas motor? something small(1 liter under 100 hp or even smaller)?? Hell why not just a generator to power up the battery as a backup?




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think of it has a spare tire or something.
Old 10/4/12 | 01:44 PM
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Buy a Volt. Not sure where FMC stands with patents for a Volt type drivetrain.
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Buy a Volt. Not sure where FMC stands with patents for a Volt type drivetrain.
heck no! those are ugly.
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well, that's what the Volt's powerplant is. A full electric vehicle that uses gasoline as a generator only when the electric power is depleted, meaning that for your daily trip to work and back you'd never need gas, but unlike other electric vehicles, you can still go on road trips without running out. They're an absolutely brilliant car, but GM hasn't done a very good job at all of selling them.
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Originally Posted by StangMahn
well, that's what the Volt's powerplant is. A full electric vehicle that uses gasoline as a generator only when the electric power is depleted, meaning that for your daily trip to work and back you'd never need gas, but unlike other electric vehicles, you can still go on road trips without running out. They're an absolutely brilliant car, but GM hasn't done a very good job at all of selling them.
They are turds. Built by a failing company. Under a retched regime.

I enjoy watching the Volt die. I revel in it.
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They are turds. Built by a failing company. Under a retched regime.

I enjoy watching the Volt die. I revel in it.
Agreed. Die Volt Die!
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Agreed. Die Volt Die!
Lol

I just read that as German. The volt the
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so why cant ford do the same thing sicne they are starting off with a better car.
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so why cant ford do the same thing sicne they are starting off with a better car.
People have to want to buy it. Apparently they don't.
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so why cant ford do the same thing sicne they are starting off with a better car.
First off. You people have too much faith in the focus. Ford loyalists I guess but the focus is crap. Always been crap. Always gonna be crap. Along with the majority of the line of fwd vehicles they produce. Ford builts a fantastic truck. And the mustang has always been great (except for mid 70's) lol. Crown Vic another well built car.
Taurus escort tempo festiva Aerostar focus etc etc = JUNK!
The Japanese own that market and Germany has the leftovers. End of focus hating rant.
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
People have to want to buy it. Apparently they don't.

Der Fatty does.

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Originally Posted by AlsCobra

First off. You people have too much faith in the focus. Ford loyalists I guess but the focus is crap. Always been crap. Always gonna be crap. Along with the majority of the line of fwd vehicles they produce. Ford builts a fantastic truck. And the mustang has always been great (except for mid 70's) lol. Crown Vic another well built car.
Taurus escort tempo festiva Aerostar focus etc etc = JUNK!
The Japanese own that market and Germany has the leftovers. End of focus hating rant.
Don't forget SUVs. They practically invented them. Those are good too.

But yeah. A lot of the stuff is just crap. Crap in a box.
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But some people like crap.
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs

Don't forget SUVs. They practically invented them. Those are good too.

But yeah. A lot of the stuff is just crap. Crap in a box.
I never liked the explorer. They really half assed those things when they first came out. They should have kept the bronco platform on a truck frame and maybe extended it to 4 doors instead of the expedition. The SUVs were always ok. GM was kicking their asses for a while before the market crash though. And Chrysler continues to fail.
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
But some people like crap.
Obviously.
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra

I never liked the explorer. They really half assed those things when they first came out. They should have kept the bronco platform on a truck frame and maybe extended it to 4 doors instead of the expedition. The SUVs were always ok. GM was kicking their asses for a while before the market crash though. And Chrysler continues to fail.
The Bronco frame was a F150 truck frame as was the Expedition. They just completely redesigned the truck in 1997 and well the Bronco was no more.
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra

First off. You people have too much faith in the focus. Ford loyalists I guess but the focus is crap. Always been crap. Always gonna be crap. Along with the majority of the line of fwd vehicles they produce. Ford builts a fantastic truck. And the mustang has always been great (except for mid 70's) lol. Crown Vic another well built car.
Taurus escort tempo festiva Aerostar focus etc etc = JUNK!
The Japanese own that market and Germany has the leftovers. End of focus hating rant.
2012+ Focus is not crap.
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2012+ Focus is not crap.
I'd love to have one just for that screaming DOHC 4 w/TiVCT. I love a good high revving 4.

(but they're too much money)
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I begged my sister in law to go look at one. Instead she got her third Altima in a row. I was like at least go drive it please. At the Nissan place she couldn't even find a salesperson to even help her. She has to practically tackle someone to sell her a car. But she still bought it. She doesn't like Fords. Wouldn't even look. Whatever.
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs

The Bronco frame was a F150 truck frame as was the Expedition. They just completely redesigned the truck in 1997 and well the Bronco was no more.
Yep. The truck frame was a much better foundation. That's when I started preferring the GM SUVs which kept the truck frame. The explorer was a rollover waiting to happen. The expedition just felt like it was gonna twist in half at any time. I still hate the feeling of driving either. Working for independent shops on all lines really made me realize how these things were built. Still truly believe that GM does a better job but Ford is definitely improving in the last 5 years or so.



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