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Old 7/25/12, 02:33 AM
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spied a ford today

last year I seen a ford mondeo and a week ago I seen a fiesta ST. To day I seen this and got pics. I have noticed all the cars and vans are headed to anthem(a city here).
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Moving to 'Ford Discussion' section . . .
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Probably for Hot weather testing
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Looks like a Galaxy ...

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Yep, and a very good 7 seater it is, too!
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You're just making fun of Brandon Bernstein having to break down and buy a family mini-van. lol
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it was a galaxy
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Interesting to see. There's been some speculation that the Galaxy and the Flex have a shared future.
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Does Ford really need both Flex and Galaxy?

IMO, Ford should replace Flex with the minivan.
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Originally Posted by Zastava_101
Does Ford really need both Flex and Galaxy?

IMO, Ford should replace Flex with the minivan.
agree! that galaxy was and is far better looking in ever single way.
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
agree! that galaxy was and is far better looking in ever single way.

I disagree. I love the look of the Flex.
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but ford isnt selling them. they cost to much and far to much of a love hate thing going.
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I admire Ford for building the Flex though, from a styling perspective, at least. The Galaxy looks pretty much like every-other MPV (mini-van) on the market. The Flex doesn't. Whilst not a stunner, it is at least unique. I really like it.

It'd never sell over here though, not with a 3.5l V6, but with a 2.0l turbo diesel, it'd stand a chance.

The Galaxy is, and always has been, one of the best MPVs available in Europe though, although it's smaller S-Max sibling (still a 7 seater) sells more, and is even better looking.
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but ford isnt selling them. they cost to much and far to much of a love hate thing going.
Ford doesn't sell tons of them, but Flex has two huge things going for it:

1) Development and production costs are pretty low, because the platform it sits on is long-since paid for and shared with other in-production vehicles.

2) The Flexes which do sell are more often from the high end of the trim and option packages.

So it's cheap to keep making and they get a lot of return on those that do sell.
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Originally Posted by Moosetang
Ford doesn't sell tons of them, but Flex has two huge things going for it:

1) Development and production costs are pretty low, because the platform it sits on is long-since paid for and shared with other in-production vehicles.

2) The Flexes which do sell are more often from the high end of the trim and option packages.

So it's cheap to keep making and they get a lot of return on those that do sell.
In addition . . .

Flex sales may not be setting any records, but the car is luring more buyers into the Ford brand than any other model, and each one appeals to its owner to such an extent that the Flex boasts the highest retention rate in the Ford family.
and
“One out of every two customers who buy a Flex have never purchased a Ford,” said Amy Marentic, Ford marketing manager for cars and utilities at a recent media launch for the 2013 Ford Flex. That’s the highest “conquest rate,” or gateway percentage for any Ford model, Marentic noted.
Sources
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...x_first_drive/

http://www.cardealexpert.com/news-in...013-ford-flex/
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I believe the recent redesign helped Flex sales as well. Ford doesn't need a minivan. This fills that slot nicely, and they could focus on eliminating or updating other archaic platforms, like the Expedition instead.
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Originally Posted by Moosetang
Ford doesn't sell tons of them, but Flex has two huge things going for it:

1) Development and production costs are pretty low, because the platform it sits on is long-since paid for and shared with other in-production vehicles.

2) The Flexes which do sell are more often from the high end of the trim and option packages.

So it's cheap to keep making and they get a lot of return on those that do sell.
Wouldn't a same thing apply for a minivan?
A minivan could be based on Taurus and use his platform, engines and transmission and most of minivans have the same starting price as Flex.
And Ford's minivan would easily oversell Flex (which sold only like ~30,000 units in 2011).
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With the Flex, Escape, Edge and now the C-Max I don't know if Ford has any room for a mini van with out detracting from there current models.

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Originally Posted by ford20
With the Flex, Escape, Edge and now the C-Max I don't know if Ford has any room for a mini van with out detracting from there current models.
Flex is the only one (not counting Explorer and Expedition, which I don't see many soccer moms driving) that has a 3rd row of seats.

As much as Ford keeps talking that there is no market for minivans, Toyota, Honda, Dodge and Chrysler each sold over 100,000 minivans last year. Minivans survived SUVs, they survived crossovers and they're not going anywhere, there's always going to be a market for them.

And Ford proved that they can build vehicles just as good as Toyota or Honda (or even better) and I know for sure that they can build vehicles better than Dodge/Chrysler. Why not try to steal some of minivan's market share, which is still very large?

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Flex almost always sell with a ton of options, it may not sell in quantity but Ford does make a ton of money on the ones they do sell.

I sold Fords for a while and almost every Flex we sold new was $45-$52k Think if Ford sold majority of GT500s of Mustangs, they certainly wouldn't need to sell 100k of them a year to make some dough.


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