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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 01:48 AM
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Interceptor and MKR not for production....or are they?

Been intrigued by a few posts by Blue II and Igor over at BON, wherin they hint strongly that Mulally, Fields, or Vishnu has turned their might loose and put the "concept only" MKR, Interceptor, or both, on the production express lane and that we'll be hearling as much officially by the time Detroit rolls around. These would be based on a RWD platform developed and built right here in NA, which means either Huntsman will be no-US like Orion, or it will be a variant of this new platform.

Here's a quick compilation of such comments:

Originally Posted by "Blue II"
Global RWD is coming from Dearborn, get used to it.

GRWD is engineered in Dearborn.
Originally Posted by "Igor"
Blue II said GRWDP is based in Dearborn, and merging that with the post from JPD80, it seems Huntsmen and GRWDP are 2 separate programs - Ford AU will continue to use Orion, and Huntsmen is their stepping stone to GRWDP in unifying wiring harnesses and adding Global engines. In the meantime, Ford AU, Ford NA and Global PD are working in Dearborn on the Global RWD program.

I was told from separate source to expect MKR announcement before the end of this show season - so I am hopeful, they took a couple of shortcuts, and are developing the first iteration of GRWD platform from some older bits (maybe combining Orion, Mustang, and DEW .. or something) just so they can deliver products fast - 2010 MY fast
Good thread to read: http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums...opic=18786&hl=

In addition, Detroit News had this to say:

Mulally said Ford plans to bring a new rear-wheel-drive platform to market in the United States "soon."
Interesting!
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Awesome. Hopefully it will be a replacement for the Crown Vic.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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I'm tired of waiting for full-size muscle car from Ford. If I don't hear anything new about Interceptor until summer, I'm buying either Marauder or Charger.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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This will be interesting to watch. I sure as hell hope we get the Interceptor.

PS- Zoran... Marauder ftw!!!!
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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I would love to see a full size replacement for the Crown Vic, with an optional performance package to make it a full size muscle car. Maybe start with the 4.6 3V as a base engine. For the performance variant, hotter suspension, bigger wheels/tires, optional manual tranny. I'd like to see one of the new Boss engines in there too (if they ever get around to making the darn things) sitting around 400-425hp.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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4.6 probably won't be around when this car hits.
but a 5.0... that'd be cool
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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i love the interceptor but with gas prices rising, i dont see a market for a v8 sedan. i mean there will be people who buy them, but there wont be enough.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by boduke0220
i love the interceptor but with gas prices rising, i dont see a market for a v8 sedan. i mean there will be people who buy them, but there wont be enough.
There's any easy fix: fit the base model with TwinForce and reserve the V8s for the lower volume high-end models. Mulally loves Twinforce, and if this happens I'm pretty certain we'll see TF in the cars.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by boduke0220
i love the interceptor but with gas prices rising, i dont see a market for a v8 sedan. i mean there will be people who buy them, but there wont be enough.
300C and Charger don't have any problems with sales. V6 should be an option, but for those kinds of cars majority of buyers will go with V8.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by future9er24
PS- Zoran... Marauder ftw!!!!
We'll see. I really don't like Chrysler's automatic transmission (I had bad experience with Dodge Intrepid), but then again I heard that Marauder is overweight and not as fast as it should be.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Star
300C and Charger don't have any problems with sales. V6 should be an option, but for those kinds of cars majority of buyers will go with V8.
I shopped a 300C about a year ago. The dealers were overloaded with inventory and desparate to get rid of them.

Interesting thing is I tried finding 300C sales #s. Unlike Ford & GM, Crapster makes is very hard to find their sales #s. I could not find anything official beyond 2005. Found some 2006 sales # on chat sites that had 06 sales down from 05.

In any case Ford sells more Mustangs than Crapster sells 300Cs.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Star
We'll see. I really don't like Chrysler's automatic transmission (I had bad experience with Dodge Intrepid), but then again I heard that Marauder is overweight and not as fast as it should be.
Even if the Marauder isn't as fast as the Charger, I would put money on the fact that it would cost you less to make your Marauder faster than a Charger than it would cost to buy a charger.

Whichever route you go though, still awesome cars. Just be forewarned that I will you for the rest of your days for not buying a Marauder
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by V10
I shopped a 300C about a year ago. The dealers were overloaded with inventory and desparate to get rid of them.

Interesting thing is I tried finding 300C sales #s. Unlike Ford & GM, Crapster makes is very hard to find their sales #s. I could not find anything official beyond 2005. Found some 2006 sales # on chat sites that had 06 sales down from 05.

In any case Ford sells more Mustangs than Crapster sells 300Cs.
So far this year, Chrysler sold around 100,000 300s. Not bad for $30,000+ car.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...01/069366.html

I don't really know why you're comparing Mustang with 300. Mustang is around $10,000 cheaper and plus it's only 2 door.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by future9er24
Even if the Marauder isn't as fast as the Charger, I would put money on the fact that it would cost you less to make your Marauder faster than a Charger than it would cost to buy a charger.

Whichever route you go though, still awesome cars. Just be forewarned that I will you for the rest of your days for not buying a Marauder
Maybe I should just get another truck. This time F-250 with 6.8L V10.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Star
I'm tired of waiting for full-size muscle car from Ford. If I don't hear anything new about Interceptor until summer, I'm buying either Marauder or Charger.

+1 on that Zoran!
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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It never made any sense to me, and it shouldn't have made any sense to anybody else for that matter, to give a global rwd program to Australia. As for recent info indicating that GRWD will be designed here in America......amen.
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 06:34 AM
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As much as I criticize Ford, if this news is accurate and if they bring these cars to term...and if they are faithful to the concepts - or even nicer - and if they move their interiors up-market in both design and quality, then I will be equally quick to praise Ford.

But that's a lot of "ifs".
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Star
So far this year, Chrysler sold around 100,000 300s. Not bad for $30,000+ car.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...01/069366.html

I don't really know why you're comparing Mustang with 300. Mustang is around $10,000 cheaper and plus it's only 2 door.
That's down significantly, (30%) from the peak sales years of the 300C.

The bulk of 300 sales are the V6 model with starts at $24K MSRP with heavy discounts, rebates and subsidized leases available.
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Star
We'll see. I really don't like Chrysler's automatic transmission (I had bad experience with Dodge Intrepid), but then again I heard that Marauder is overweight and not as fast as it should be.
you heard wrong.

Buy the Marauder and Supercharge it with an Eaton or Twin Screw from Trilogy.
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