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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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Exclamation Ford Future products info...plans...

From GuionM on Z28...
... Even being a GM site, its a good read for Ford info.
Gui is very well spoken and well informed..pay attention to that boy if you don't

That's the way I read Alan Mulally..... quote:

"He pointed to Ford of Europe's new Mondeo sedan, which was recently featured in the James Bond movie, "Casino Royale."

"Why aren't we driving that here?" he asked. "Hello! It's a great car."


Other bits from Ford:
* 70% of it's lineup will be new or refreshed by the end of next year.
* It's entire product line will be new or restyled by 2010 (Ford's Panther cars, anyone?)
* Ford will begin redesigning or reskinning their key vehicles every 2-2 1/2 years.
* Ford Focus here will soon be the same as is sold in Europe, save tuning and equptment.
* Ford won't be matching their competitors vehicle for vehicle, but will focus on markets where they can grow profits.

http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs...TO01/701130370

No word on the next Falcon yet.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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Nice to hear about a better Focus, and on Fords plan to keep things fresh with frequent updates. Good show on the not matching other vehicle to vehicle. Definately a good idea for a company trying to get back in the game
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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* Ford will begin redesigning or reskinning their key vehicles every 2-2 1/2 years.
And others will be completely ignored just like they're now (some examples are Freestar, Ranger, Taurus ...) and they will fail.
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 12:00 AM
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no more taurus, i thought?
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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Yep, although there are some talks that it will be back.

Another great car that failed because Ford didn't care about it.
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 12:28 AM
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The interceptor should replace the CV, They can keep the CV name though.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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Disagree about the CV name. It's poison to the youth market. So either you package it just for fleet/retiree sales (yuck) or you take a better name like Falcon or Interceptor and make it work. Just becuase a name's "established" doen't mena it has positive equity. Who here is looking forward to the next "Edsel" or "Aztek" ?

Also disagree that Global Ford will ignore models they way Ford NA has. Mullaly's not a retard, he's been on a sinking ship before and he knows market leaders are product leaders. Give the guy his due by giving him a chance.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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As long as cops and taxi drivers are buying Crown Victorias Ford should continue building them.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Star
As long as cops and taxi drivers are buying Crown Victorias Ford should continue building them.
The CV as-is? Sure. Little dev cost and guaranteed sales. But if they fulfill our wishes and bring the Interceptor to market, it should have an identity seperate from the CV, even if they sell it to Cops+Taxi drivers as well.
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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I wouldn't mind having the Escort back. I owned two of them (99 sedan and 97 wagon) and they were both great cars!
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
From GuionM on Z28...
... Even being a GM site, its a good read for Ford info.
Gui is very well spoken and well informed..pay attention to that boy if you don't



Thoughts?

I don't really see anything that wasn't already known, and what did this guy say about future info? All I see is that article, did he give other info on the GM site?
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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Well .. yes he does.

If you see any posts started by him... or posts...
That comment about him was in general,not just that post
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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I think this is good news, I also think Mullay needs to be given a chance it seems like some don't even want to do that. Personally without American cars I don't know what I would do. I honestly just don't like 97% of the affordable import cars, and most European companies (Mercedes, BMW, ect.) are way to expensive for me. This has nothing to do with my love of Mustangs either. I just think Japanese car makers all make ugly grocery getters or junky econo boxes. Their is just something about American car designs that speak to me in a way the Japanese can't seem to figure out.
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Moosetang
The CV as-is? Sure. Little dev cost and guaranteed sales. But if they fulfill our wishes and bring the Interceptor to market, it should have an identity seperate from the CV, even if they sell it to Cops+Taxi drivers as well.
I think that could be a good idea

Build the interceptor for the retail market, and keep building the CV for the fleet market only. Make sure no interceptors get into the fleets to water down the residual values.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
From GuionM on Z28...
... Even being a GM site, its a good read for Ford info.
Gui is very well spoken and well informed..pay attention to that boy if you don't

Thoughts?
I already talked about this Mulally quote... "He pointed to Ford of Europe's new Mondeo sedan, which was recently featured in the James Bond movie, "Casino Royale."

"Why aren't we driving that here?" he asked. "Hello! It's a great car."


...in another thread.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I think Mulally's plan is going to be to reposition Mercury in a similar way to what GM has done with Saturn - and to at least in part make Mercury the division in North America that sells the Euro Fords.

The below post appeared on Autoblog yesterday, and there's a bolded line in there that speaks to what I'm saying (and what Mulally is lamenting about) >>

How's this for responsive? The very day our post questioning the point of Mercury went live, we got a call from Lincoln/Mercury's PR department, eager to elucidate their plans to us. Rest assured that there are machinations underway to realign product, marketing, features, and pricing to reconnect with customers. Shoring up the Ford brand is priority numero uno, and that's underway. The other brands under the Ford tent are also hard at work, climbing the walls of the pit.

Looking at the growth shown in the entry-level luxury market, the Lincoln and Mercury brands will be flipped volume-wise. Whereas Mercury was always the higher-volume seller of the two brands, it will now become more of a niche brand. Lincoln will be getting a push for sales volume and while Lincoln is not directly targeting the segment leaders in the luxury market, its offerings are solid performers in their respective classes and won't embarass themselves. Conversely, they run the risk of not standing out, but performance isn't the only area where you can leave an impression.

The idea going forward is to have Lincoln compete in the various segments for buyers looking to reward themselves. As crazy as it sounds, some people would rather have sybaritic rewards instead of all out barnstorming. To that end, Lincoln is looking to be a standout with high levels of luxury and equipment in its vehicles. The MKR concept vehicle shown in Detroit is an embodiement of where Lincoln styling will go. We may not see that very car in production, but it's a document of cues and themes that will spread across the range. Love it or hate it, nobody will deny that you will identify it as a Lincoln from a mile away. That instant recognition will be applied to all Lincolns. It'll be great to see the Town Car go from blobby to bold.

Lincoln once was, and to a degree still is, the "Town Car" marque, but that distinction is not what the future of the brand is staked on. To be sure, the Town Car is not going away, it's arguably the quintessential American luxury car. Models like the MKX, MKZ, and MKS are going to attract new clientele while the Town Car continues to satisfy its buyers. The key is to bring new owners to the fold while retaining current customers. There are Lincolns available in more segments now; from entry-level C-segment sedans all the way up to the large and in charge Navigator. We're seeing a push toward offering more vehicles and more modern vehicles at that, so the planned increase in sales volume makes sense. Now all they have to do is sell it -- we'll keep a sharp eye on the advertising efforts. At this point, execution of the marketing plan will make or break Lincoln. Dwayne Wade better bring his A-game.

With Lincoln taking the baton for sales, Mercury is to take on a more unique identity. The common dope on the brand right now is that Mercury is a stepping stone between Ford and Lincoln. Dispel that notion, as that's not the plan. Mercury is intended to attract different customers than either Ford or Lincoln. There will be further design distinction of Mercury vehicles, but we wouldn't hold our breath for much more than fascias and equipment in the near future. There eventually could be European Fords in the Mercury showroom, and sheetmetal differences between the brands may evolve to the point where greenhouses and doors are not shared between platform mates.

As has been noted, Mercury attracts a higher percentage of female buyers -- almost a third more than Ford. Minority buyers are also doubly attracted to Mercury products than Ford. With conquest rates in the 40-percent range, Mercury appears to be successfully targeting savvy folks who want something a little different. The folks that Mercury thinks are target customers aren't cross-shopping Ford brands, but rather comparing Mercury to offerings from Japanese and European makes. The mind immediately jumps to our favorite vehicles from those places; most are capable of some zooty performance. Cars like the Altima, 3-series, and Accord coupes. Like Lincoln, Mercury isn't looking to flatten the competition with sheer performance numbers. They want to win buyers by offering appealing designs with a high level of quality and features. Again, performance will be "adequate", but Mercury thinks offering AWD across virtually the entire fleet, interior packaging and features like an award-winning Nav system and the newly debuted infotainment toy, Sync, will be what really excites buyers. Not such a bad gamble, as we spend a lot more time sitting in traffic than we do flexing any underhood muscle. Being entertained during gridlock is pretty important, and a comfy interior makes the minutes tick by less painfully.

One thing we can expect to see from Ford as a whole is a consolidation of platforms and product development across their worldwide divisions. We're betting Dearborn is taking a long look at what Saturn's been up to and thinking hard about emulating that strategy. This bodes well for quelling the hue and cry for the Euro platforms coming stateside. No decisions on that have been made, but rest assured, they're looking at it. Ford's hot to share platforms more widely, so they're going to be picking out the best of what they've got worldwide, and trotting what's left off into the sunset. Although we know that there's a love among enthusiasts for V8 powerplants driving the rear wheels, we wouldn't hold our breath. While we might think it'd be a surefire hit, it'd likely just cause a stir, and make a lot of people look on in admiration, while they ponied up the cash for something else. We're a small (yet eminently vocal) minority. The one question we have yet to get answered, and we know its of utmost importance to you, dear readers, is whether they'll make a return to the old logo, or stick with the "waterfall." We've got a call in, and we'll keep calling Mercury every hour on the hour until they talk. Must be some kind of embargo.
I like what I'm reading. It shows some SERIOUS thought and attention is going into Ford's renaissance right now, perhaps more than at any other time in their history. I just hope the company can survive long enough to realize the fruits of their labor.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Selling Euro Fords under the Mercury badge would be a sure way to failure, Mercury is a dead brand just like buick, if Ford wants to do the right thing they will bring them here with the Blue oval on them, for sale at every Ford dealership.

I live in L.A. and there is only like one L-M dealership in the area, and I'm talking a big area. And they would slap that hideous Mercury grill and waterfall logo on the beautiful Euro Fords which would really ruin them.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Selling Euro Fords under the Mercury badge would be a sure way to failure, Mercury is a dead brand just like buick, if Ford wants to do the right thing they will bring them here with the Blue oval on them, for sale at every Ford dealership.

I don't think Ford would mind Buicks sales for Mercury.

In 2006 Buick sold 240,000 vehicles and Mercury sold 170,000 vehicles.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Star
I don't think Ford would mind Buicks sales for Mercury.

In 2006 Buick sold 240,000 vehicles and Mercury sold 170,000 vehicles.
Buick doesn't sound that dead to me!
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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The problem with Selling Euro Fords as Mercs is the globalization of the platforms destroys that option in the long term, unless NA's still going to have a bunch of unique models or they keep the number of merc models very small.
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