Ford falls in Consumer Reports reliability survey
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Ford falls in Consumer Reports reliability survey
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/10/25/f...ts-reliabilit/
Consumer Reports has released its annual Car Reliability Study, and the results weren't kind to Ford. The automaker saw its ranking fall from 10th to 20th due to issues with three specific models: the Explorer, Fiesta and Focus. Each of those vehicles ranked below average in reliability during their first year on the market due to issues with MyFord Touch and the dual-clutch transmissions in the Fiesta and Focus.
Consumer Reports has released its annual Car Reliability Study, and the results weren't kind to Ford. The automaker saw its ranking fall from 10th to 20th due to issues with three specific models: the Explorer, Fiesta and Focus. Each of those vehicles ranked below average in reliability during their first year on the market due to issues with MyFord Touch and the dual-clutch transmissions in the Fiesta and Focus.
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Maybe its just me, but ...
The brand new Explorer and Focus came out like few months ago. How the heck is Consumer Reports able to say anything about their reliability so soon?
And what is this issue with transmissions? First time I heard about that.
The brand new Explorer and Focus came out like few months ago. How the heck is Consumer Reports able to say anything about their reliability so soon?
And what is this issue with transmissions? First time I heard about that.
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And I heard through reading reviews that the DCT was very rough and clunky when shifting, especially during quick acceleration.
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I've heard about issues with the new DCT A/T from a couple mechanics at the local Ford dealer. Especially with the Fiesta. MFT? Like having Windows in your car, bugs and all. No surprise there. Buggy "MFT" can have other meanings when it starts acting up and you have to go through the "reboot process".
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Like I said you need to read more fiesta forums. They are having problems witht he new trans. The focus and fiesta share the same tranny and lots of leaks and case issues.
the mytouch thing is just stupid.. thats like saying the cd player is causing major issues.. they need to get real
the mytouch thing is just stupid.. thats like saying the cd player is causing major issues.. they need to get real
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most of the problems are with the new powershift.
some links
http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/...nsmission.html
http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/...sion-leak.html
http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/...t-reverse.html
http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/...-question.html
http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/...ew-fiesta.html
http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/...on-issues.html
http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/...-problems.html
TSB 10-19-6
ISSUE:
Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles may exhibit a hard start, no start, intermittent start, noise from bellhousing during start and/or various automatic transmission engagement concerns such as no engagement or intermittent no engagement in Drive or Reverse when shifting from Park to Drive or Reverse, grinding noise during engagement and/or a check engine light with transmission control module (TCM) diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P06B8 or P0884.
TSB 10-17-5. The desrcription is for rolling idle in high altitude and/or high ambient temperatures vehicles built on or before 7/30/2010 for manual trans and 6/28/2010 for auto.
TSB 10-21-12
ISSUE:
Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles, equipped with a manual transmission may exhibit a slow return to idle. Idle may stay around 3000 RPM for an extended period before returning to normal
For TSB 10-25-2, the fix involves ordering new parts that include a new rear cylinder block plate, tranny seal/gasket, and bolts, and they will have to take out the entire tranny housing to do the work.
TSB 10-19-6 (Superseded by TSB 11-5-23)
ENGINE START CONCERNS, AUTO TRANS ENGAGEMENT CONCERNS LEAVING PARK AND/OR CHECK ENGINE LIGHT WITH DTC P06B8, P0884 – BUILT ON OR BEFORE 8/17/2010
DATE: 9/24/2010
ISSUE: Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles may exhibit a hard start, no start, intermittent start, noise from bellhousing during start and/or various automatic transmission engagement concerns such as no engagement or intermittent no engagement in Drive or Reverse when shifting from Park to Drive or Reverse, grinding noise during engagement and/or a check engine light with transmission control module (TCM) diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P06B8 or P0884.
TSB 10-22-7
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION - AXLE SEAL LEAK RIGHT HAND SIDE - BUILT ON OR BEFORE 7/30/2010
DATE: 11/4/2010
ISSUE: Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission and built on or before 7/30/2010 may exhibit a right hand (RH) side axle seal leak at the transmission.
some links
http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/...nsmission.html
http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/...sion-leak.html
http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/...t-reverse.html
http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/...-question.html
http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/...ew-fiesta.html
http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/...on-issues.html
http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/...-problems.html
TSB 10-19-6
ISSUE:
Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles may exhibit a hard start, no start, intermittent start, noise from bellhousing during start and/or various automatic transmission engagement concerns such as no engagement or intermittent no engagement in Drive or Reverse when shifting from Park to Drive or Reverse, grinding noise during engagement and/or a check engine light with transmission control module (TCM) diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P06B8 or P0884.
TSB 10-17-5. The desrcription is for rolling idle in high altitude and/or high ambient temperatures vehicles built on or before 7/30/2010 for manual trans and 6/28/2010 for auto.
TSB 10-21-12
ISSUE:
Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles, equipped with a manual transmission may exhibit a slow return to idle. Idle may stay around 3000 RPM for an extended period before returning to normal
For TSB 10-25-2, the fix involves ordering new parts that include a new rear cylinder block plate, tranny seal/gasket, and bolts, and they will have to take out the entire tranny housing to do the work.
TSB 10-19-6 (Superseded by TSB 11-5-23)
ENGINE START CONCERNS, AUTO TRANS ENGAGEMENT CONCERNS LEAVING PARK AND/OR CHECK ENGINE LIGHT WITH DTC P06B8, P0884 – BUILT ON OR BEFORE 8/17/2010
DATE: 9/24/2010
ISSUE: Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles may exhibit a hard start, no start, intermittent start, noise from bellhousing during start and/or various automatic transmission engagement concerns such as no engagement or intermittent no engagement in Drive or Reverse when shifting from Park to Drive or Reverse, grinding noise during engagement and/or a check engine light with transmission control module (TCM) diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P06B8 or P0884.
TSB 10-22-7
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION - AXLE SEAL LEAK RIGHT HAND SIDE - BUILT ON OR BEFORE 7/30/2010
DATE: 11/4/2010
ISSUE: Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission and built on or before 7/30/2010 may exhibit a right hand (RH) side axle seal leak at the transmission.
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TSB 11-3-29 (Superseded by TSB 11-5-8)
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID LEAK FROM INPUT SHAFT - VEHICLES BUILT ON OR BEFORE 3/15/2011
DATE: 3/24/2011
ISSUE: Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles built on or before 3/15/2011 and equipped with an automatic transmission may exhibit a transmission fluid leak from the input shaft seal area.
TSB 11-3-33
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION - RATTLE/GRIND NOISE IN REVERSE ONLY
DATE: 3/29/2011
ISSUE: Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission may exhibit a rattle/grind noise in reverse only. Noise may be more noticeable under light throttle from a stop.
TSB 11-4-5
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION - HARSH 1-2 SHIFT - BUILT FROM 1/13/2011 - 1/28/2011
DATE: 4/4/2011
ISSUE: Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission and built from 1/13/2011 to 1/28/2011 may exhibit a harsh 1-2 shift.
TSB 11-5-8 (Supersedes TSB 11-3-29) (Superseded by TSB 11-6-8)
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID LEAK FROM CLUTCH HOUSING - VEHICLES BUILT ON OR BEFORE 3/15/2011
DATE: 5/10/2011
ISSUE: Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles built on or before 3/15/2011 and equipped with an automatic transmission may exhibit a transmission fluid leak from the clutch housing.
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID LEAK FROM INPUT SHAFT - VEHICLES BUILT ON OR BEFORE 3/15/2011
DATE: 3/24/2011
ISSUE: Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles built on or before 3/15/2011 and equipped with an automatic transmission may exhibit a transmission fluid leak from the input shaft seal area.
TSB 11-3-33
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION - RATTLE/GRIND NOISE IN REVERSE ONLY
DATE: 3/29/2011
ISSUE: Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission may exhibit a rattle/grind noise in reverse only. Noise may be more noticeable under light throttle from a stop.
TSB 11-4-5
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION - HARSH 1-2 SHIFT - BUILT FROM 1/13/2011 - 1/28/2011
DATE: 4/4/2011
ISSUE: Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission and built from 1/13/2011 to 1/28/2011 may exhibit a harsh 1-2 shift.
TSB 11-5-8 (Supersedes TSB 11-3-29) (Superseded by TSB 11-6-8)
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID LEAK FROM CLUTCH HOUSING - VEHICLES BUILT ON OR BEFORE 3/15/2011
DATE: 5/10/2011
ISSUE: Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles built on or before 3/15/2011 and equipped with an automatic transmission may exhibit a transmission fluid leak from the clutch housing.
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You'd think it would be because of the widespread failures of the MT82 that are causing people to be almost killed on a daily basis that lowered Ford's ranking, not a complex infotainment system.
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Ford rushes to fix gearbox problems, but not quickly enough for Consumer Reports
Consumer Reports recently cited issues with the PowerShift dual-clutch transmission in the Ford Focus and Ford Fiesta as one of the primary reasons behind the automaker's fall from grace in its annual Car Reliability Study, but according to The New York Times, the automaker has already worked to solve most of the problems with the gearboxes. Ford has issued a number of technical service bulletins designed to improve drivability at low speeds. On September 13, Ford sent its dealers a bulletin describing how to reprogram the powertrain control module for "smoother acceleration, reduced hesitation, better low-speed drivability and improved shift scheduling."
In addition, a separate bulletin sent out on September 2 specifically dealt with harsh gear changes in the Fiesta. Like its larger sibling, dealers were instructed to reprogram the transmission for better performance. Still, those fixes come too late for Ford in the Consumer Reports' report. We'll have to wait until next year to see if the changes improve the Blue Oval's ranking.
News Source: The New York Times
Consumer Reports recently cited issues with the PowerShift dual-clutch transmission in the Ford Focus and Ford Fiesta as one of the primary reasons behind the automaker's fall from grace in its annual Car Reliability Study, but according to The New York Times, the automaker has already worked to solve most of the problems with the gearboxes. Ford has issued a number of technical service bulletins designed to improve drivability at low speeds. On September 13, Ford sent its dealers a bulletin describing how to reprogram the powertrain control module for "smoother acceleration, reduced hesitation, better low-speed drivability and improved shift scheduling."
In addition, a separate bulletin sent out on September 2 specifically dealt with harsh gear changes in the Fiesta. Like its larger sibling, dealers were instructed to reprogram the transmission for better performance. Still, those fixes come too late for Ford in the Consumer Reports' report. We'll have to wait until next year to see if the changes improve the Blue Oval's ranking.
News Source: The New York Times
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You'd think it would be because of the widespread failures of the MT82 that are causing people to be almost killed on a daily basis that lowered Ford's ranking, not a complex infotainment system.
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