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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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Bye bye Volvo

Ford Motor Company has just announced that all major terms relating to the sale of Volvo have been settled between Ford and Zhejiang Geely Holding Group Company Limited. That doesn't mean that all the Ts have been crossed on the deal, but it does indicate that Geely has met all of Ford's terms for the sale to be complete. Ford has issued a press release stating that a definitive sale agreement will be signed in the first quarter of 2010, while the final sale won't take place until Q2.

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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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You really can't blame Ford for dumping Volvo; it just didn't support itself as a brand...
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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I hate to see Volvo be sold, but I absolutely understand the reasons why. Volvo is living with one foot in the premium mrket and one foot out, and that is a tough place to be as Ford and Volvo have both discovered. To really find success with Volvo I think Ford would have to either bump Volvo down to a more mainstream level similar to brands like VW, or make it a proper, premium brand like BMW and Volvo. The latter would be very expensive and risky, while the former would be hard to justify since it would compete directly with Ford...particularly Ford of Europe. Throw in the reality that Ford already has a 'premium' brand that needs a lot of work in Lincoln, and the case for keeping Volvo becomes even more difficult to make.
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jsaylor
I hate to see Volvo be sold, but I absolutely understand the reasons why. Volvo is living with one foot in the premium mrket and one foot out, and that is a tough place to be as Ford and Volvo have both discovered. To really find success with Volvo I think Ford would have to either bump Volvo down to a more mainstream level similar to brands like VW, or make it a proper, premium brand like BMW and Volvo. The latter would be very expensive and risky, while the former would be hard to justify since it would compete directly with Ford...particularly Ford of Europe. Throw in the reality that Ford already has a 'premium' brand that needs a lot of work in Lincoln, and the case for keeping Volvo becomes even more difficult to make.
For once I completely DISAGREE with you jsaylor.
































































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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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With the new Chinese owners, I think it will now be pronounced "VORVO"
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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so what will power the Ford Focus now? ...the euro spec version that is.
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Jay
so what will power the Ford Focus now? ...the euro spec version that is.
According to British car magazine Auto Express, next Focus RS will be powered by 2.0L Ecoboost which will produce more power than current 2.5L turbo.

Other available engines for 2011 Focus will be
1.0L 89 hp
1.0L EcoBoost 108 hp
1.6L 170 hp
1.6L 128 hp (diesel)
2.0L 168 hp (diesel)
2.0L 197 hp (diesel)

We will probably get 1.6L 170 hp only.
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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The thread should be Volvo Sold not bye bye.
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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For once I completely DISAGREE with you jsaylor.
Just kidding!
Jason, you're killing me man.
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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Let's see just how un-safe the Chinese can make Volvo. Leaded paint? High VOC-emitting interior plastics? Inferior metals in the chassis/suspension? Kind of sickens me since it means they now have access to information on how to build real cars and don't have to work quite as hard at it in terms of technology and doing the research & development themselves. Probably make it easier to enter the US auto market this way too.
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jsaylor
Jason, you're killing me man.

Originally Posted by hi5.0
Let's see just how un-safe the Chinese can make Volvo. Leaded paint? High VOC-emitting interior plastics? Inferior metals in the chassis/suspension? Kind of sickens me since it means they now have access to information on how to build real cars and don't have to work quite as hard at it in terms of technology and doing the research & development themselves. Probably make it easier to enter the US auto market this way too.
Have you seen some of the crash test videos from some Chinese auto-makers on youtube? The cars completely disintergrate
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
With the new Chinese owners, I think it will now be pronounced "VORVO"

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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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Say what you want about Chinese cars, but they have $$$ to buy a company like a Volvo. Which none of Big 3 could do now, in fact, they have to sell it in order to survive.
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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That's probably because they have such a freakin huge market
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by stangfoeva
That's probably because they have such a freakin huge market

The consumer base is loyal as well.
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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Never liked, volvos
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WaltM
The consumer base is loyal as well.

For the same reasons as the Iraqi's under the Sadd' am...









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LOL Did you get that?

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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
For the same reasons as the Iraqi's under the Sadd' am...









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LOL Did you get that?
Did you just summarize the gulf war and OIF with smilies????

I love it!!!!
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 04:47 AM
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Say what you want about Chinese cars, but they have $$$ to buy a company like a Volvo. Which none of Big 3 could do now, in fact, they have to sell it in order to survive.
So?

And FMC used to have enough to purchase anything under the sun (thanks Mr. Nasser! ) FMC doesn't need to sell Volvo to survive. It's not as if they are making a fortune off of the sale (though they may be poised to make more off of Volvo throughout the coming years.) The sale is just as much about Mulally's commitment to Ford, Lincoln and Mercury and the efforts need to make the core brands successful . . . . we'll we will see about Mercury.

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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
For the same reasons as the Iraqi's under the Sadd' am...
You're probably right. Btw, what does the smiley rabbit with the "pizza head" represent?
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