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Old May 8, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Aston Martin Targets F430, Gallardo

http://www.leftlanenews.com/aston-fu...rdo-rival.html
The new ownership certainly isn't messing around. Along with green-lighting the Rapide and setting course for a new flagship (DBX), it looks like AM's looking to create a new car, possibly mid-engine, to go after the Gallardo and F430. Oh Hell Yeah.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Looks like Aston is in good hands!
Makes me a happy boy!
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Old May 8, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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AWESOME!
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Old May 8, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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Great news. Can't wait for more info, and eventually pics.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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They don't kid around! Need to get those guys on-board w/Ford, ASAP! Might actually result in world-class cars that people will want.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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They don't kid around! Need to get those guys on-board w/Ford, ASAP! Might actually result in world-class cars that people will want.
I doubt Richards has any interest at all in Mass-market cars. It wasn't even his idea origionally to purchase AM, and his prior production possibility (P2) never went into production. I think he's great right where he is, and as long as they're at least technical partners with Ford, I consider them part of the Blue Oval Galaxy.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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No boost??
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Old May 9, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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No boost??
Good riddance.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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No boost??
Nope, N/A only. You have to remember that at that level it's not all about performance. Go watch the Top Gear vid where Clarkson races the DB9 versus the train. An Aston has to have a certain feel, a certain character. And part of that character is a big, fire-breathing N/A engine.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 01:02 AM
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Nope, N/A only. You have to remember that at that level it's not all about performance. Go watch the Top Gear vid where Clarkson races the DB9 versus the train. An Aston has to have a certain feel, a certain character. And part of that character is a big, fire-breathing N/A engine.

Disagree totally, at that level it IS about performance, we're not talking about competing with an S class or a M5 here, although even those haul ***.

The only thing better than a fire breathing engine is one with twin turbo's on it.

And I've seen all the Top Gear vids, that's a DB9, not a F430/Gallardo competitor.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 02:20 AM
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Disagree totally, at that level it IS about performance, we're not talking about competing with an S class or a M5 here, although even those haul ***.

The only thing better than a fire breathing engine is one with twin turbo's on it.

And I've seen all the Top Gear vids, that's a DB9, not a F430/Gallardo competitor.
1. The F430/Gallardo competitor still has to be an Aston. The Vanquish is an Aston, the DB9's an Aston, and the Vantage is an Aston. You know it looking at them, you know it driving them.There's no doubt the Gallardos a Lambo or the F430 a Ferrari, Aston can't just slap their badges on "the ultimate performance machine," they need to make a Aston.
2. Neither the Gallardo nor the F430 are force-fed, and the Aston N/A legacy stretches back farther than either of those. It's completely possibly to compete w/o slapping turbos on, so why do it?
3. It's not all about performance. If you're spending $150-200k you're looking for the total package. Look at Clarkson, he bought a Gallardo even though the F430 beats it on numbers because he liked the Lambo more.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Moosetang
1. The F430/Gallardo competitor still has to be an Aston. The Vanquish is an Aston, the DB9's an Aston, and the Vantage is an Aston. You know it looking at them, you know it driving them.There's no doubt the Gallardos a Lambo or the F430 a Ferrari, Aston can't just slap their badges on "the ultimate performance machine," they need to make a Aston.
2. Neither the Gallardo nor the F430 are force-fed, and the Aston N/A legacy stretches back farther than either of those. It's completely possibly to compete w/o slapping turbos on, so why do it?
3. It's not all about performance. If you're spending $150-200k you're looking for the total package. Look at Clarkson, he bought a Gallardo even though the F430 beats it on numbers because he liked the Lambo more.
1. A turbo isn't going to change any of that...
2. So what? Why not beat them? The current Aston V8 is way behind Ferrari and Lambo, what are they going to do to get over 500 horsepower out of a little V8?
3. If you want to think that, if you can't compete with them on performance, then youo don't have a F430/Gallardo competitor.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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Someone doesn't get it...






It is about more than performance, it is about being an Aston Martin

The best exhaust tone, the hand-craftmanship, the amazing interior, the perfect 50/50 balance, and the Aston styling.
Power. Beauty. Soul.
Exhaust Tone: http://youtube.com/watch?v=mdLLbT2OcbQ



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Old May 10, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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yeah he's not gonna make it in Club Aston around here
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Old May 10, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by burningman
yeah he's not gonna make it in Club Aston around here
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Old May 11, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by thezeppelin8
Someone doesn't get it...






It is about more than performance, it is about being an Aston Martin

The best exhaust tone, the hand-craftmanship, the amazing interior, the perfect 50/50 balance, and the Aston styling.
Power. Beauty. Soul.
Exhaust Tone: http://youtube.com/watch?v=mdLLbT2OcbQ



Yea, you don't get it, if you want to compete with those cars you have to compete with them on performance, they aren't luxury cars, doing so wouldn't make it any less of an Aston.

Using your logic, the Carrera GT isn't a Porsche because the Cayenne has a back seat..
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Old May 11, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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I wouldn't want to be in an Aston Martin club that doesn't even get cars.

Aston Martin will build a new sports car to compete with the Ferrari F430 and Lamborghini Gallardo, according to American investor John Sinders, who is now a co-owner of the British company.

How do you guys expect them to do that, with extra cupholders?



OMG!!! It has more power it'z not an aStOn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111
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Old May 11, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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Aston can build a competitive car and still stay n/a. They've been using v12's for years.

Some get it, some dont apperently.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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they are going to kick aston.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Scothew
Aston can build a competitive car and still stay n/a. They've been using v12's for years.

Some get it, some dont apperently.

What is this, the retarded Aston Martin wanna-be club or something?

I guess the Veyron is crap because it uses turbo's...

Do you even now where they got their V12?
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