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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 07:23 AM
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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I would love to have one. Ford "down under" knows what real drivers really want.
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 11:39 AM
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If Ford wants to save Lincoln from Mercury's fate, perhaps bringing this thing over would be a fine start as the new Mark Something-or-another (minus much of the teen-age kit on the body, anybody with more money than taste can slap that khrapp on later to make sure every cop in five miles glooms onto you like a rolling jelly donut.)
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 02:17 PM
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Really like how they integrate the brake vents into the "warpaint." Still wish the rear end of the Falcon didn't look like a holdover from 1998.

I think Ford's trying real hard to make a business for a rwd global sedan called Falcon in Australia and possibly sold as a Lincoln here. But it will be a couple years yet, and it's no sure thing.
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 02:55 AM
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Very, VERY nice.

I really hope GRWD does get going for the next gen Falcon.......and Mustang......and Lincoln......
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by rhumb
If Ford wants to save Lincoln from Mercury's fate, perhaps bringing this thing over would be a fine start as the new Mark Something-or-another (minus much of the teen-age kit on the body, anybody with more money than taste can slap that khrapp on later to make sure every cop in five miles glooms onto you like a rolling jelly donut.)
After much loved but slow seller Pontiac G8 (aka Holden Commodore) failed in the USA, I don't think Ford wants to take the risk with the Falcon.
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 07:16 AM
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After much loved but slow seller Pontiac G8 (aka Holden Commodore) failed in the USA, I don't think Ford wants to take the risk with the Falcon.
Well main thing bout the g8 is that they didnt really bring it in at the right time. It qas kinda when the economy really started to sink, $5 gas prices were country wide and sports cars werent the biggest concern. Im actually surprised it sold the numbers it did, but thats partly because Pontiac went under. There are storiea though that its coming back as a rebadged chevy. And if that happens... Falcon, Commodore, Charger showdown!!!
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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Well main thing bout the g8 is that they didnt really bring it in at the right time. It qas kinda when the economy really started to sink, $5 gas prices were country wide and sports cars werent the biggest concern.
That might be the reason(s), but Dodge was still selling 100,000 Chargers at the same time and Chrysler was selling additional 120,000 300s.
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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Why is it we can't have this car in North America?
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 12:02 PM
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Because Ford had nothing but bad luck with global cars in the past.

And Falcon's competition (Holden Commodore) failed in the USA.
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Star
After much loved but slow seller Pontiac G8 (aka Holden Commodore) failed in the USA, I don't think Ford wants to take the risk with the Falcon.
I dont know Zoran, maybe just maybe this is the piece that is missing from Lincoln Mercury, if marketed correctly every flippin Mustang owner with kids would have to have one of these to go with their stang... I drove the Cadillac CTS last week because my boss made me but it was awesome. I know Ford already has enough 4 doors in the fleet but I'm ready for this!
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 12:45 PM
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I dunno, even in the best case scenario Lincoln would't be able to move more than 20,000 of them ... in that case they might as well stick with MKS which is much cheaper to built.
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Star

That might be the reason(s), but Dodge was still selling 100,000 Chargers at the same time and Chrysler was selling additional 120,000 300s.
Look at the price gap though. The srt8 models of both of those cars were around 50k (someone correct me if im wrong) and those were the fully optioned. Basics (v6 or v8 ) were round 22-30k for both cars depending how they are optioned. The g8 went for bout 40 something and was also only offered with a v8 and fuel economy tanked on those engines. Being offered with a v6 and more fuel efficient v8's the chargers and 300's were able to sell many more cars than the g8/commodore.

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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 01:20 AM
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Pontiac G8 was also offered with one V6 engine (3.6L) and two V8s (6.0L and 6.2L).

G8 V6 was rated at 17/25 mpg, which is about the same as Charger and 300.

Base price for a V6 was ~$26,000 and V8 was $30,000 ... same as Charger and 300.

They couldn't be any more similar.
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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 04:40 AM
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Whoop let my mouth get ahead of my head there tlkin bout price. And i didnt remember any v6 for the g8?? Oh well anyway maybe ther are other factors as to why it didnt sell as much as chargers and 300's. Quality (interior exterior), design, history, who know what it couldve been.
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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 01:28 PM
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I don't think interior could've been a problem. Until now, Chrysler's vehicles had the worst interiors in the auto industry.
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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Pinoy361
Well main thing bout the g8 is that they didnt really bring it in at the right time. It qas kinda when the economy really started to sink, $5 gas prices were country wide and sports cars werent the biggest concern. Im actually surprised it sold the numbers it did, but thats partly because Pontiac went under. There are storiea though that its coming back as a rebadged chevy. And if that happens... Falcon, Commodore, Charger showdown!!!
GM right now just has plans for the LWB version as a police only vehicle called approriately the Caprice.
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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 07:46 PM
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All I know is that I would be in line to buy one as long as it was priced right. I love this car and I am also in the Mustang owner with kids club. It's getting harder each year to squeeze the kids in the back.
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Star
After much loved but slow seller Pontiac G8 (aka Holden Commodore) failed in the USA, I don't think Ford wants to take the risk with the Falcon.
Might be right, but I think the excellent G8s fate was due more to bad luck (introduced at the height of the economic collapse and then Pontiac's own demise) and perhaps some lukewarm advertising than anything inherent in the car itself, a veritable working man's BMW e39 M5. Chevy apparently is/will be selling a variant here as a police car, maybe to dip their toes in the big RWD V8 market again. I wonder if civilians will be able to readily order one.

However, as you mentioned, Ford will likely be scared off by the G8's subpar sales performance and we will not likely see a Commodore variant stateside.
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 11:38 PM
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