2011 Explorer-V8 history?
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2011 Explorer-V8 history?
4 cyl turbo with 275HP, V6 turbo with 340 HP. Article states a turbo 6 will take the place of a standard V8, and a turbo 4 provide the oomph that used to require V6 power. The article continues to say V8's will still be available in full size trucks and SUV's. No mention of Mustang.
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Its ok, man, you don't need to tilt at windmills like HGT. Just embrace the fact that this Detriot crop looks pretty good for Ford, and hope as I do that they get them to market soon.
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Some of us call things as they are; others of us (who shall remain nameless) put on rose colored glasses and see things as we'd like them to be. A wise person knows the difference.
There's nothing at all imaginary about Ford's problems right now.
There's nothing at all imaginary about Ford's problems right now.
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While I always like roses more than poo, to each his own. Enjoy your view, I enjoy mine.
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Just because Ford is behind GM in the curve doesn't mean Ford is screwed. GM was effectively bankrupt at least a year before Ford mortgaged the oval, so therefore they got a year headstart. GM is making remarkable progress...just look at the CTS. Who is to say Ford is not following that same path, just a little behind. Look at the stuff in the works for Ford. The Verve looks awesome, I would seriously consider buying that car if they don't screw it up and make it into a bland commutermobile. The new Mustang is exciting, and the new F150 is nice and will help keep it selling major numbers. There is a light at the end of the tunnel...you just have to keep the faith.
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Just because Ford is behind GM in the curve doesn't mean Ford is screwed. GM was effectively bankrupt at least a year before Ford mortgaged the oval, so therefore they got a year headstart. GM is making remarkable progress...just look at the CTS. Who is to say Ford is not following that same path, just a little behind. Look at the stuff in the works for Ford. The Verve looks awesome, I would seriously consider buying that car if they don't screw it up and make it into a bland commutermobile. The new Mustang is exciting, and the new F150 is nice and will help keep it selling major numbers. There is a light at the end of the tunnel...you just have to keep the faith.
But right now, I still see a lot of the old guard thinking going on at Ford, and that worries me. I think the comments expressed here really sum it up.
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Ford behind GM in the curve?? Granted, GM's rental sales have bumped it to higher sales numbers then Ford, but in available and upcoming technologies? Don't think so. Ford's engines and drivetrains are much more sophisticated along with every product line part for part. Just because GM is bringing over another Aussie vehicle and Ford is not and GM's pushrod V8's will be more powerful for just one more year does not make an entire company 'further ahead' in any way.
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Ford behind GM in the curve?? Granted, GM's rental sales have bumped it to higher sales numbers then Ford, but in available and upcoming technologies? Don't think so. Ford's engines and drivetrains are much more sophisticated along with every product line part for part. Just because GM is bringing over another Aussie vehicle and Ford is not and GM's pushrod V8's will be more powerful for just one more year does not make an entire company 'further ahead' in any way.
Missing a few glaring facts, but interesting.
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Glaring facts? Please elaborate.
I've always been curious about this debate and have always thought, like a few others that DOHC was not the right way to go, and that Ford is far too proud to take a step back in order to take steps forward. Pushrod never really went bad, and I honestly don't see why we went away from it to get much heavier, much larger engines. Look at Chevy with their LSx series that are tiny in comparison to the 4.6/5.4 and they can bore it to a 427.
I've always been curious about this debate and have always thought, like a few others that DOHC was not the right way to go, and that Ford is far too proud to take a step back in order to take steps forward. Pushrod never really went bad, and I honestly don't see why we went away from it to get much heavier, much larger engines. Look at Chevy with their LSx series that are tiny in comparison to the 4.6/5.4 and they can bore it to a 427.
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