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Old 12/30/04 | 09:25 AM
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I've been trying to figure out if there's anyway to set what the Shaker system displays as a default for the MP3 tags. I'd love to have the song title always displayed, but it seems like it will always display the file name and the only way to see the song title is to cycle through the tags using the Text button.

Does anyone know if it's possible to change what the system displays as the default?

Thanks,
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Old 12/30/04 | 11:49 AM
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I am new to MP3s but my defaut showing is the title of the song. Sometimes the song title is long and I have to scroll thru to read the whole song title.

I did not change anything on the Shaker and I ripped the MP3s thru MediaPlayer10.
Old 12/30/04 | 01:14 PM
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Out of curiosity, how many MP3's are on your burned disc's Kluski?
Old 12/30/04 | 02:00 PM
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I was able to get 10 cd's on one mp3 disc, thats around 100 songs.

Was unaware you could make it show the name of the song, I was all excited it showed the group and album name lol.
Old 12/30/04 | 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by nynvolt@December 30, 2004, 3:03 PM
Was unaware you could make it show the name of the song, I was all excited it showed the group and album name lol.
Now you are making me think. I will have to verify on my way home. I do know I bought a CD recently and it shows the song titles. So far it is the only one.

Out of curiosity, how many MP3's are on your burned disc's Kluski?
For instance, I put the whole "Shine On" box set by Pink Floyd on one disc. It has a total of 66 songs and 8 CDs, and is 5 hours and 45 minutes. long. I think there is still more room.
Old 12/30/04 | 02:14 PM
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Actually there was another reason for the question, I was just going around it differently because of a previous argument here. Trying to stay away from that kind of thing

AFAIK Microsoft doesn't write to the MP3 format, never has previously. But I wouldn't know for sure as I don't do "Windows" and don't know for sure if Media Player 10 has changed that or not.

The previous argument I'm reffering to involved someone insisting that the Shaker plays .wma files just fine. The fact was they weren't .wma files but just plain ole CDA (CD Audio) files burned with Media Player 10.

So..... I was wondering if in fact Kluski was burning CD Audio instead of MP3. If the answer was 12-20 songs, then that tells me it's audio and NOT MP3.

Media Player 10 may very well have changed that OR somebody has written a plugin that will do it. I just don't see Microsoft writing anything to an open source format based on history and business practice.
Old 12/30/04 | 02:23 PM
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Well then... as I was writing that Kluski answered

I guess Media Player 10 does write to MP3 then! that surprises me!
Old 12/30/04 | 03:09 PM
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so...should I asume there's no way to change the default display tag on the shaker system? I could rename all my file to show title then artist instead of the other way around, but I was hoping I wouldn't have to do that...

If anyone has any ideas, I'm game for playing around with things...
Old 12/30/04 | 04:14 PM
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Make your folder name the Artist and the actual MP3 file name the song title. I think thats what I did. This way you can also listen to one band by folders or shuffle to mix them.
By the way I got 180 MP3's on one CD useing Music Match Jukebox.
Music Match will also tag these for you while your on the net.
Hope this helps.
Old 12/31/04 | 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by Kluski+December 30, 2004, 3:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kluski @ December 30, 2004, 3:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nynvolt@December 30, 2004, 3:03 PM
Was unaware you could make it show the name of the song, I was all excited it showed the group and album name lol.
Now you are making me think. I will have to verify on my way home. [/b][/quote]
OK I checked on the way home last night.

My default text (as seen by pushing the "text" button)

1. Song Title
2. Artist Name
3. Album Name

I just used the default MediaPlayer10 at about 128 bits I think. I make a folder for each album and put the songs in that folder.

SixtySix
Actually there was another reason for the question, I was just going around it differently because of a previous argument here. Trying to stay away from that kind of thing
I remember that arguement. There was confusion on it being a WMA file since it was burned in MediaPlayer.
Old 12/31/04 | 09:25 AM
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I made a cd with 203 mp3 songs in 15 albums. They were ripped with Window Media Player 10 at 256 Kbps. I used a Maxell CD-R data black CD and this one has never skipped or been spit back out. Also, with the text button, it shows the song title on the display. Some folders show the artist and album name and others say "No artist" and "No album".
Old 12/31/04 | 09:45 AM
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f1-cobra,

Those must have been SHORT albums to get 15 albums on it at 256kbps. I have a TON of 80 minute CDs burned with 128kbps MP3s. I can only get 10 to 14 full albums on there.

I recently went and reripped my CD collection at 256kbps (I got tired of the artifacts I could hear at 128kpbs. No issues at 256kpbs). Now, I can only get 5 to maybe 6 full albums on those same 80 minute CDs.

Simple math: 203 songs. Assume (and it IS an assumption!) each song lasts 2.5 minutes (probably shorter than "normal" actually!) and you ripped your MP3s at 256kbps then:

203 * 2.5 minutes * 60 seconds / minute * 256kbps * 1024 bps/kbps * 1/8 bytes /bit = 997785600 bytes. Or, 951 MBytes of DATA. That is a bit bigger than even the 80 minute CDs can hold (by about 251 MBytes!)

Now, if you said you ripped those MP3s at 128kbps, I wouldn't have even blinked when you said 15 albums...
Old 12/31/04 | 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by f1-cobra@December 31, 2004, 9:28 AM
I made a cd with 203 mp3 songs in 15 albums. They were ripped with Window Media Player 10 at 256 Kbps. I used a Maxell CD-R data black CD and this one has never skipped or been spit back out. Also, with the text button, it shows the song title on the display. Some folders show the artist and album name and others say "No artist" and "No album".
That math doesn't add up. At 256k recordings, the files get too large to fit that many on a single 700 meg burnable disc. I should know since I don't want to feed anything less than 192k through my shaker 1000. I can get a fair number onto a disc, even with 256k or 320k bit rate, but not 200+

Only way you will see 200+ songs on a 700 meg disc at 256 bit rate is if all of those songs are like 1-2 minutes long. Otherwise, that has to be like 128-160 bit rate.
Old 12/31/04 | 11:41 AM
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If Ford would of stepped up, and ordered better displays with these, we could have the information scrolling on the screen.
Old 12/31/04 | 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by cdemot02@December 31, 2004, 11:44 AM
If Ford would of stepped up, and ordered better displays with these, we could have the information scrolling on the screen.


I posted a topic on this a bit ago. It's my only gripe with the shaker 1000.
Old 12/31/04 | 11:57 AM
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Will the shaker 500 play WMA files,That is the only way the Velvet revolver CD will save to the computer...and there must be some sort of copywrite gig also, if you just copy the disc, it wont play, or it will play real squirlly, depending upon what you are trying to play it on...Any Suggestions?
Old 12/31/04 | 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by davids2toys@December 31, 2004, 12:00 PM
Will the shaker 500 play WMA files,That is the only way the Velvet revolver CD will save to the computer...and there must be some sort of copywrite gig also, if you just copy the disc, it wont play, or it will play real squirlly, depending upon what you are trying to play it on...Any Suggestions?
The shaker will NOT play WMA recorded files. You need to get a utility that can extract the CDA information from the music CD and record it into a MP3 format. Otherwise, you are left with recording the disc or buying another VR disc.

I don't know if Windows Media Player does that or not, I use MP3 Wave Editor 2.4 personally.

http://www.mp3waveditor.com/
Old 12/31/04 | 04:57 PM
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Moving to Interior and Audio...
Old 12/31/04 | 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by RRRoamer@December 31, 2004, 11:48 AM
f1-cobra,

Those must have been SHORT albums to get 15 albums on it at 256kbps. I have a TON of 80 minute CDs burned with 128kbps MP3s. I can only get 10 to 14 full albums on there.

I recently went and reripped my CD collection at 256kbps (I got tired of the artifacts I could hear at 128kpbs. No issues at 256kpbs). Now, I can only get 5 to maybe 6 full albums on those same 80 minute CDs.

Simple math: 203 songs. Assume (and it IS an assumption!) each song lasts 2.5 minutes (probably shorter than "normal" actually!) and you ripped your MP3s at 256kbps then:

203 * 2.5 minutes * 60 seconds / minute * 256kbps * 1024 bps/kbps * 1/8 bytes /bit = 997785600 bytes. Or, 951 MBytes of DATA. That is a bit bigger than even the 80 minute CDs can hold (by about 251 MBytes!)

Now, if you said you ripped those MP3s at 128kbps, I wouldn't have even blinked when you said 15 albums...
I went back and checked the songs on the computer. It is actually 198 songs in 15 albums. Nine of the albums were ripped by my brother at his house and they seem to be 128 Kbps. The other six I did with WMP10 at 256 Kbps with the total on the CD at 705448 kb.

Here is the breakdown of the albums:
12songs-100903kb
10songs-60173kb
7songs-50487kb
16songs-83104kb
13songs-8292kb
12songs-15484kb
10songs-94627kb
12songs-84823kb
10songs-27970kb
13songs-34234kb
14songs-20086kb
17songs-19463kb
12songs-43130kb
18songs-30876kb
22songs-31796kb

Sorry about the confusion, I'm new to the ripping thing.
Old 1/12/05 | 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by nh5622@December 30, 2004, 10:28 AM
I've been trying to figure out if there's anyway to set what the Shaker system displays as a default for the MP3 tags. I'd love to have the song title always displayed, but it seems like it will always display the file name and the only way to see the song title is to cycle through the tags using the Text button.

Does anyone know if it's possible to change what the system displays as the default?

Thanks,
Nick
I found the answer to this on another forum and thought it was answered here.


To change the default display on mp3 files cycle through the available options using the "text" button. When you have the one you want permantently displayed press and HOLD "text" button for 3 second (i think it flashes or something). Now if you have tag info in your mp3 file the song title will be displayed rather than the file name. It defaults to the file name if no song title info is found.

fwiw I've had no problems so far with my shaker 500 in regards to mp3 burned disks either skipping or reading the disk as bad.


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