05-09 Interior and Audio Mods Enhancing Your Mustang's Interior and Sound System

SHAKER 1000 ALTERNATIVE

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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 01:14 AM
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Has this been discussed before. Well it took a long while but I finally ready to put my order in. I have found A GREAT ALTERATIVE FOR THE SHAKER 1000. Now iI just need to decide 18' FAN Blades or 18in Bullit ??
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 07:28 AM
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Would like to see one installed.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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Just ordered one from Crutchfield, unloaded (without sub) was $139. There is a topic on this,many folks have done it, just do a search.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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I have had one in mine for a couple of months. The fit is excellent. There are pictures floating around on one of the sub woofer threads here of it.




edit... Here is a picture. Excuse the sun washout in the pic. My driveway faces east and it was taken in the morning.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?ac...e=post&id=38364
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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, fyi, the Shaker 1000 sounds phenomenal when using logjams AUX adapter and Sirius radio--albeit, you can get the sub for $600 cheaper but i do not think it looks good at all---
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by Patience@January 13, 2006, 11:45 AM
, fyi, the Shaker 1000 sounds phenomenal when using logjams AUX adapter and Sirius radio--albeit, you can get the sub for $600 cheaper but i do not think it looks good at all---
Patience, I'm kind of confused about what you do not think looks good? The Shaker subs or the Scosche box? The Scosche box fits right in an exsisting space and you lose very little truck space? And really who cares what it looks like, unless you drive with your trunk open?

Is there any sound diff between two subs and one 12" sub?
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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I think that the Scosche box looks way better than the skaer 1000. Not to mention more bass. It also takes up less room.

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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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WOW!! I'm sooo convinced now. i'm glad that I didn't spend $1200 for the shaker 1000. I like the sound of a 12 inch sub vs a 10 inch. heck for that price you coud put one on each side of the trunk if ya wanted to get silly.
Thanks for the help , I'm placing my order tomorrow.
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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The Scosche box takes up WAY LESS space than the skipper sub box did. See where there is no carpet in the trunk? That is where the factory sub box was and Ford was too cheap to carpet under it. So you can see the space savings.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by hawgman@January 13, 2006, 10:43 PM
The Scosche box takes up WAY LESS space than the skipper sub box did. See where there is no carpet in the trunk? That is where the factory sub box was and Ford was too cheap to carpet under it. So you can see the space savings.
exactly i see where there is no carpet (looks do matter)--at any rate---sorry if anyone had problem with your subs, i ordered my ride at the beginning of the model year and took delivery at the end, no problems and definately a more professional look, not to mention resale wise you'll be a step ahead with a FORD provided product---as well, my trunks drop will be gettin a custom plasma screen hook up, so yes, again, looks matter---i will admit the loss of space, but heck if i want to swap it out one day, fine and gain 3-400 on e-bay--no biggie--as for the size, your bass is driven first by magnet size and second by enclosure type third ampage---best of luck to all
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by Patience@January 14, 2006, 8:38 AM
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as for the size, your bass is driven first by magnet size and second by enclosure type third ampage---best of luck to all

You cannot possibly believe this, can you? Magnet size has absolutely ZERO bearing on bass in any way shape or form. "Ampage" is way down the list also. You are correct in the enclosure thing, but that is #1, even far ahead of driver selection itself.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by Infinity@January 19, 2006, 6:50 PM
You cannot possibly believe this, can you? Magnet size has absolutely ZERO bearing on bass in any way shape or form. "Ampage" is way down the list also. You are correct in the enclosure thing, but that is #1, even far ahead of driver selection itself.

magnet size drives the woofer.......
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 06:27 AM
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Magic drives the woofer. heck, everybody knows that. :P
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by Patience@January 20, 2006, 3:49 PM
magnet size drives the woofer.......

No, magnet STRENTGH can help drive a woofer. Go read up on how a loudspeaker truly works, then try to sound smart. Magnet size has absolutely no bearing on loudspeaker function. One of the most powerful loudspeakers ever built has a magnet structure only slightly larger in dimension than my fist. Then, there are some of the flea-market drivers, and lots of Audiobahn, Pyramid, etc that have huge magnets and almost zero performance. Besides, I can name at least a dozen magnetic materials that can be used on a speaker, all would be a different size for the same Gauss, but the speaker would perform identically.

Magnet size obviously does help the marketing department of shady speaker companies. After all, a larger magnet MUST mean better performance.


BTW: Also look into suspension compliance and overall displacement of a speaker to figure it's output capabilities.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by Infinity@January 21, 2006, 7:55 AM
No, magnet STRENTGH can help drive a woofer. Go read up on how a loudspeaker truly works, then try to sound smart. Magnet size has absolutely no bearing on loudspeaker function. One of the most powerful loudspeakers ever built has a magnet structure only slightly larger in dimension than my fist. Then, there are some of the flea-market drivers, and lots of Audiobahn, Pyramid, etc that have huge magnets and almost zero performance. Besides, I can name at least a dozen magnetic materials that can be used on a speaker, all would be a different size for the same Gauss, but the speaker would perform identically.

Magnet size obviously does help the marketing department of shady speaker companies. After all, a larger magnet MUST mean better performance.
BTW: Also look into suspension compliance and overall displacement of a speaker to figure it's output capabilities.
lets end the debate:

The electromagnet is positioned in a constant magnetic field created by a permanent magnet. These two magnets -- the electromagnet and the permanent magnet -- interact with each other as any two magnets do. The positive end of the electromagnet is attracted to the negative pole of the permanent magnetic field, and the negative pole of the electromagnet is repelled by the permanent magnet's negative pole. When the electromagnet's polar orientation switches, so does the direction of repulsion and attraction. In this way, the alternating current constantly reverses the magnetic forces between the voice coil and the permanent magnet. This pushes the coil back and forth rapidly, like a piston.


When the electrical current flowing through the voice coil changes direction, the coil's polar orientation reverses. This changes the magnetic forces between the voice coil and the permanent magnet, moving the coil and attached diaphragm back and forth.

When the coil moves, it pushes and pulls on the speaker cone. This vibrates the air in front of the speaker, creating sound waves. The electrical audio signal can also be interpreted as a wave. The frequency and amplitude of this wave, which represents the original sound wave, dictates the rate and distance that the voice coil moves. This, in turn, determines the frequency and amplitude of the sound waves produced by the diaphragm.


out..... :worship:
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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Thanks for the refresher in loudspeaker theory/physics. But, at no point was there any indication that magnet size plays any role in the output of any speaker. Ever hear of Neodymium perchance? You ARE on the right track, and I feel you know what you're talking about, it was just poorly worded in your other post. It would be like saying that an Audiobahn Flame Compression will be louder than a Cerwin Vega Stroker of equal size simply because the magnet is larger. That is absolutely untrue. Or, sayin that the Aura 18 won't be loud because of its small magnet (a highly optimized neo. structure). I just don't want people to base a woofer purchase on magnet size.
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by Infinity@January 21, 2006, 6:33 PM
Thanks for the refresher in loudspeaker theory/physics. But, at no point was there any indication that magnet size plays any role in the output of any speaker. Ever hear of Neodymium perchance? You ARE on the right track, and I feel you know what you're talking about, it was just poorly worded in your other post. It would be like saying that an Audiobahn Flame Compression will be louder than a Cerwin Vega Stroker of equal size simply because the magnet is larger. That is absolutely untrue. Or, sayin that the Aura 18 won't be loud because of its small magnet (a highly optimized neo. structure). I just don't want people to base a woofer purchase on magnet size.

gotcha...........i love debate........
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by Patience@January 22, 2006, 4:19 PM
gotcha...........i love debate........
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