Street Scene Centerlight Grill
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3/14/07, 03:10 PM
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Hey, I payed good green back dollars for my parts. I expect the parts to be every bit as good as the money I pay for them. Where ever they take my dollars it is worth dollar for dollar anywhere they take it. I saw the early SS production articles and they sucked big time due to warpage ... so I waited until they improved the product before I took the plunge. They have apparntly sold about 600 of the new design.
I am not worried, but I do have the right to expect the part to be as right as my money. And if they or anyone else gets it wrong, they need to make it right. There is no excuse for deficient engineering, manufacturing or quality control.
The devil is in the detail!!
PS - Nice install article by the way
I am not worried, but I do have the right to expect the part to be as right as my money. And if they or anyone else gets it wrong, they need to make it right. There is no excuse for deficient engineering, manufacturing or quality control.
The devil is in the detail!!
PS - Nice install article by the way
3/14/07, 03:30 PM
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Hey, I payed good green back dollars for my parts. I expect the parts to be every bit as good as the money I pay for them. Where ever they take my dollars it is worth dollar for dollar anywhere they take it. I saw the early SS production articles and they sucked big time due to warpage ... so I waited until they improved the product before I took the plunge. They have apparntly sold about 600 of the new design.
I am not worried, but I do have the right to expect the part to be as right as my money. And if they or anyone else gets it wrong, they need to make it right. There is no excuse for deficient engineering, manufacturing or quality control.
The devil is in the detail!!
PS - Nice install article by the way
I am not worried, but I do have the right to expect the part to be as right as my money. And if they or anyone else gets it wrong, they need to make it right. There is no excuse for deficient engineering, manufacturing or quality control.
The devil is in the detail!!
PS - Nice install article by the way
3/14/07, 06:16 PM
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I installed this grill with the screws provided by Street Scenes...they were clearly a size too large for the post holes as they caused fatigue lines in the plastic.
I sent it back to the authorized retailer as a defective product - after all, SS had included the too-large screws and indicated in the instructions to use theirs instead of the ones that came off the OEM gril. Replacement grille + OEM screws worked great; only the fact that it's a quality piece (in the "Land-of-So-Much-After-Market-Crap") made me stay with it.
And I will also say it was a very good experience with the retailer, Ninosport, in the double transaction.
I sent it back to the authorized retailer as a defective product - after all, SS had included the too-large screws and indicated in the instructions to use theirs instead of the ones that came off the OEM gril. Replacement grille + OEM screws worked great; only the fact that it's a quality piece (in the "Land-of-So-Much-After-Market-Crap") made me stay with it.
And I will also say it was a very good experience with the retailer, Ninosport, in the double transaction.
3/14/07, 07:16 PM
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Some of you are going a little overboard, with returning the grill, or not purchasing it altogether. My grill crazed a little, when I started with the included screws. Once I saw what was happening, I switched to the factory ones, and then no problem. This little problem is too small IMO to keep that grill off my car. I love my grill and get tons of comments about it. Like Adrenaline says, there will be no problem if you use the factory screws from the OEM grill. 
3/14/07, 08:55 PM
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Well that is intersting.
a) my kit came w/o screws
b) I used the factory Torx screws ... and were they ever tight going in
c) Street Scene wrote to me today indicating only the V6 grill comes with screws.
d) The parts list on my instructions does not list to any screws being supplied, so seeing this thing comes from Taiwan, its possible screws were packaged previously at some point to avoid confusion ... i.e. boss, which one gets the screws??
e) the instructions refer to installing the lamps with the Torx screws removed from the factory grill.
I have to admit, aside from the over stressed posts, the quality and fit looks very good and I am quite satisfied with that aspect.
a) my kit came w/o screws
b) I used the factory Torx screws ... and were they ever tight going in
c) Street Scene wrote to me today indicating only the V6 grill comes with screws.
d) The parts list on my instructions does not list to any screws being supplied, so seeing this thing comes from Taiwan, its possible screws were packaged previously at some point to avoid confusion ... i.e. boss, which one gets the screws??
e) the instructions refer to installing the lamps with the Torx screws removed from the factory grill.
I have to admit, aside from the over stressed posts, the quality and fit looks very good and I am quite satisfied with that aspect.
Some of you are going a little overboard, with returning the grill, or not purchasing it altogether. My grill crazed a little, when I started with the included screws. Once I saw what was happening, I switched to the factory ones, and then no problem. This little problem is too small IMO to keep that grill off my car. I love my grill and get tons of comments about it. Like Adrenaline says, there will be no problem if you use the factory screws from the OEM grill.
3/15/07, 11:46 AM
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Hey, I payed good green back dollars for my parts. I expect the parts to be every bit as good as the money I pay for them. Where ever they take my dollars it is worth dollar for dollar anywhere they take it. I saw the early SS production articles and they sucked big time due to warpage ... so I waited until they improved the product before I took the plunge. They have apparntly sold about 600 of the new design.
I am not worried, but I do have the right to expect the part to be as right as my money. And if they or anyone else gets it wrong, they need to make it right. There is no excuse for deficient engineering, manufacturing or quality control.
The devil is in the detail!!
PS - Nice install article by the way
I am not worried, but I do have the right to expect the part to be as right as my money. And if they or anyone else gets it wrong, they need to make it right. There is no excuse for deficient engineering, manufacturing or quality control.
The devil is in the detail!!
PS - Nice install article by the way
3/15/07, 11:49 AM
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I think some of you are forgetting that only the V6 grille comes with screws. If adding this grille on a V6, that means you had to buy fog lights, which unless you ask Ford at the time to include screws you won't get any.
The GT already has the fog lights on the car so you use the factory screws.
The GT already has the fog lights on the car so you use the factory screws.
3/15/07, 11:53 AM
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I see it all the time in electronic devices (clocks, computers, etc). If the plastic completely split open, screws became loose, etc, then I could understand the issue.
3/15/07, 12:07 PM
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Really? You won't buy something because of that? To each thier own but seriously, the grill has been on my car since June with no issues. I have even removed the fog lights to put stoneguard on them and the "fatigue lines" don't get any worse. The holes are just drilled, not pre-threaded, therefore since the screws make the threads, the material has to go somewhere, which results in the lines. A lot of plastic parts do this.
I see it all the time in electronic devices (clocks, computers, etc). If the plastic completely split open, screws became loose, etc, then I could understand the issue.
I see it all the time in electronic devices (clocks, computers, etc). If the plastic completely split open, screws became loose, etc, then I could understand the issue.
I've put thousands of miles on my car since putting this grille on and you know what? The foglights haven't fell out 
3/15/07, 12:49 PM
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Pretty sure it was SS. They sent me pictures when I enquired about the grill before it hit the market.
Don't think have that communication any more ... tryng to keep some disk space free. Will check my files tonight, might still be something left behind.
Stress marks not defective - that is debatable. I have not seen that elsewhere, and definetely not on the Ford part. It could be the plastic mix used by SS (or thier subcontractor in Taiwan) does not have the same physical properties as Ford used. That could be by choice or chance. Just like steel, depending on the recipe, the properties are different. This plastic may not be as ductile as a result of its properties.
For sure the lights are not ready to fall off (yet). But, I don't want to have to replace this a few hot Texas summers down the road. And that is my concern.
Don't think have that communication any more ... tryng to keep some disk space free. Will check my files tonight, might still be something left behind.
Stress marks not defective - that is debatable. I have not seen that elsewhere, and definetely not on the Ford part. It could be the plastic mix used by SS (or thier subcontractor in Taiwan) does not have the same physical properties as Ford used. That could be by choice or chance. Just like steel, depending on the recipe, the properties are different. This plastic may not be as ductile as a result of its properties.
For sure the lights are not ready to fall off (yet). But, I don't want to have to replace this a few hot Texas summers down the road. And that is my concern.
Um, are you sure you are talking about the same grill? SS never released a grill that was warped. That was a completely different manufacturer, I know, I had one and it is in my review (pic compares it to SS grill). I expect to get what I paid for as well, I guess I just don't see what the issue is. So there are stress marks on the plastic from the threads on the screw, that doesn't mean something is defective.
3/15/07, 12:52 PM
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Pretty sure it was SS. They sent me pictures when I enquired about the grill before it hit the market.
Don't think have that communication any more ... tryng to keep some disk space free. Will check my files tonight, might still be something left behind.
Stress marks not defective - that is debatable. I have not seen that elsewhere, and definetely not on the Ford part. It could be the plastic mix used by SS (or thier subcontractor in Taiwan) does not have the same physical properties as Ford used. That could be by choice or chance. Just like steel, depending on the recipe, the properties are different. This plastic may not be as ductile as a result of its properties.
For sure the lights are not ready to fall off (yet). But, I don't want to have to replace this a few hot Texas summers down the road. And that is my concern.
Don't think have that communication any more ... tryng to keep some disk space free. Will check my files tonight, might still be something left behind.
Stress marks not defective - that is debatable. I have not seen that elsewhere, and definetely not on the Ford part. It could be the plastic mix used by SS (or thier subcontractor in Taiwan) does not have the same physical properties as Ford used. That could be by choice or chance. Just like steel, depending on the recipe, the properties are different. This plastic may not be as ductile as a result of its properties.
For sure the lights are not ready to fall off (yet). But, I don't want to have to replace this a few hot Texas summers down the road. And that is my concern.
3/15/07, 01:04 PM
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Really? You won't buy something because of that? To each thier own but seriously, the grill has been on my car since June with no issues. I have even removed the fog lights to put stoneguard on them and the "fatigue lines" don't get any worse. The holes are just drilled, not pre-threaded, therefore since the screws make the threads, the material has to go somewhere, which results in the lines. A lot of plastic parts do this.
I see it all the time in electronic devices (clocks, computers, etc). If the plastic completely split open, screws became loose, etc, then I could understand the issue.
I see it all the time in electronic devices (clocks, computers, etc). If the plastic completely split open, screws became loose, etc, then I could understand the issue.
I really do like the SS grille and it was on my wish list but now I'll just wait and see. I wouldn't think it'd be difficult to drill the holes a little larger or find some different screws, but I'm not going to be the first to try.
3/16/07, 01:57 AM
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Okay, so tonight I decided to get a jump on installing my new SS grill, which I got from V6 Mustang..couldn't have been any easier. The hardest part was getting the old grill off but once I got one tab off the others were easy. The wire installation came in one day before the grill and since I have limited time tomorrow I decided to do the wiring today. 1 1/2 hour later I was all done....and no extra parts either. The instructions were straight forward and easy to follow and everything fit perfectly. The only problem I had was drilling the hole for the fog light switch. My bit was a little too small so I had to file the edges down a bit to get the switch to go in the hole.....and I was just a smidge off....now the switch is just a little off, but unless your on your back looking up at the installation you can't tell...a little epoxy and should be good as new. I will post pictures of the new grill once it is installed tomorrow.....
3/16/07, 09:35 AM
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3/22/07, 08:10 AM
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I also received a pre -production sample, as did adrenalin, and used the torx screws from the stock grille and noticed stretching, but no cracks. I put a production unit in for a friend and used the SS suplied screws with no problems whatsoever .