This looks like it's going to have a home in my car in the spring!

http://www.ststurbo.com/2005_mustang_gt

No idea on pricing just yet but the performance figures are very good:

Boost: 7 psi Intercooled
Rear Wheel Horsepower: 447
%'d increase: 73%

Rear Wheel Torque: 480
%'d increase: 71%

1/4 mile time: 12.6 @ 113 mph (tested at the California Speedway on street tires)

Dyno testing was completed at Dr. Gas in Murray, Utah. Elevation: 4226 ft

 

If only we knew the price

 

Seen it before, that's a pretty sleek setup IMO.

 

THATS AN AWFUL SMALL TURBO... get a bigger turbo lol

 

I'd be worried about road dirt getting on the filters and having to clean them every month. But if there's no noticible lag from such long pipes after the turbo, that'd be a nice setup.

 

Talk about TURBO LAAAAAAAAAAG!!!!

 

You guys talking about turbo lag didn't see the installation they did on Two-Guys Garage. They said that TL was virtually gone due to the light weight of the spools in the turbos.. Notice that I said TURBOS.. The exhaust system pressure changes are almost instantaneous.. When you think about the distance from the turbos to the intake manifold - think about the distance the air has to go if it's routed through an intercooler in front of the radiator.
I've installed SC's and TC's before and have had to fight for space under the hood and had to deal with all the extra heat up there. This system is so darned ingenious it's amazing...

 

their is no lag, and also their is no whistle so its more of a sleeper, listen to the vids, it sounds like a flowmaster or just an aftermarket muffler, and their isnt any heat with this set-up either because its mounted out back not in the engine bay.

 

This has to be one of the silliest designs that I can think of. Think about it, on a normal turbo setup, you have to pressurize the intake manifold and (usually short) tube going from the turbo to the manifold. Now you have a long tube that you have to pressurize as well. That will cause lag, because of the time to pressurize the tubes running back to the intake.

Volume of a cylinder is V = (3.141 x diameter^2 x Length) / 4

using 2.25" inches for a pipe diameter, and say 12' (144") for the length, that works out to an additonal 572 cu in that you have to pressurize.

Not to mention, what about the oil and coolant lines that have to be run all the way to the back of the car? Seems like it way more trouble than it worth.

 

Yeah - I'm sure that all the dyno results are contrived (fake) as are the drag strip tests etc... :bang:

That's fine... I'll just go on being amazed by the technology people are bring out and when it comes time to spring loose with the Ging - this STS system will be in my shop to be installed on my car... Then I'll post my contrived dyno tests and fake drag strip results and maybe I can help fool some others!

 

Where in my response does it state that I said the test results are fake? :scratch:

I'm merely stating that this is a much more inefficent way of turbocharging a car. If this were so great, then why hasn't any other turbo or auto manufacturer done it? Because it is less efficient and more costly. Also, the location of the turbos opens them up to potential damage.

Now if they came out with a sequential dual system with a small turbo that spools quickly then switches over to a larger turbo that provides more boost now THAT would be innovative.

My $.02, since the SC systems seem to be putting out similar power with a less complex setup, I think they are the way to go.

 

:shock: $8995 :shock:

I know it'll drop, but compare to the SC prices out there (which, again, you can get for less) and the diff is H-U-G-E. Enough to cover the cost of repairs/upgrades to my poor engine!

 

I was all hot about putting a SC in my Stang and became concerned about engine durability based on some unattributed readings I have made. Does anyone have insight into how much the stock engine/tranny can take from the perspective of a cash poor daily driver?

For some background the first SC I looked at was the VORTEC which reports 410-420HP at 9.5psi and 450-465 HP at 10.5psi when aftercooled. SEMA and Kinne Bell limit their boost to near 3.5psi and 400HP....is there a good reason?

 

The Kenne Belle kit is either 5psi non intercooled or the 8 psi with the intercooler. The safe limit some have said is 450.

 

Is there a good thread about the HP our 05 GT's can handle? I dont want to burn out my new baby.