Aftermarket 2005+ Mustangs Discuss the Offerings from Roush, Saleen, Steeda, Shinoda, and Others

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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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Boyd Coddington now. But, come on, an additional[B] $60K!? $90K for a mustang? Saleen can't sell them for $45K, what makes him think he can do the same for twice the price???
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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650HP is a lot of power....but can't that be done with a twin turbo and a decent amount of boost, plus some bolt ons? Unless im missing something....that doesnt come out to $60K on top of the GT price...plus full body kit, full suspension upgrades, wheels and tires....still comfortably under the $90k their asking to get it all at once.
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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“We’re going head-to-head against Saleen and Roush,†said Cheney.

He can park his Level 1 next to me at Knott's (assuming I've got it back...etc..), and we'll see who get's the most attention.

The bodykit looks nice, but kinda uninspired. The kit + 65 hp + common bolt-ons = $20K+? Can't be right.
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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If I were a rich man (no i'm not going to sing you a song from Fiddler on the roof), I would get one of those GT350SR for $109K. See uniqueperformance link in the above link, or better yet,

http://uniqueperformance.com/GT350SR.aspx above
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by mr-mstng@April 7, 2005, 8:42 AM
[b]http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102139

Boyd Coddington now. But, come on, an additional $60K!? $90K for a mustang? Saleen can't sell them for $45K, what makes him think he can do the same for twice the price???
For real. I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'm just about "Boyd'd out" Not to take anything away form his finished produts, but I haven't seen anything that he's done that any other car builder/rebuilder/customizer does. Except he thinks he's Gods gift to the automobile world. Now, he's got a $90K+ "Crazy Hourse II"......

I'm sure they'll be plenty of rich fools that will be dying to have one. Congratulations Boyd, you deserve it..... :notnice:

Thanks for the info Rob.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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Boyd=Tool!...he seems like a pompous **** on the show. It's no wonder people stress out that work for him. They do however produce some nice stuff but not for the jack they're charging.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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After reading the article again, I now see that I was mislead. Boyd isn't doing it, XMP is. They're copying(?) the car from Boyd. I don't know how this is going to play out unless Boyd is involved somehow. That would explain the $90K+ price tag though. And it still doesn't change my feelings from my ealier statement.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by slavehand@April 8, 2005, 7:39 AM
After reading the article again, I now see that I was mislead. Boyd isn't doing it, XMP is. They're copying(?) the car from Boyd. I don't know how this is going to play out unless Boyd is involved somehow. That would explain the $90K+ price tag though. And it still doesn't change my feelings from my ealier statement.
The prices seem way out of line to me as well, but the hood on their "stage 2" model is something that I would definitley consider for mine. For anyone that saw Blues Brothers, try this line, "How much for just the hood?"
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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If your referring to the hood from the XMP website, I believe that's the Boy Racer body from 3D Carbon. Their link is here, scroll down to the bottom.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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Man, that is a lot for using other people's body work (Street Scene or 3D Carbon).

Why would a buyer not just build your own? Sounds like it would be cheaper.

I just can't see the market sustaining $50k + Mustangs without a Shelby name--no matter how fast you make them. People don't buy exotics just because they are fast!
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by Rampant@April 8, 2005, 2:10 PM
Man, that is a lot for using other people's body work (Street Scene or 3D Carbon).

Why would a buyer not just build your own? Sounds like it would be cheaper.

I just can't see the market sustaining $50k + Mustangs without a Shelby name--no matter how fast you make them. People don't buy exotics just because they are fast!
Exactly, IMO, its half perfomance, half nameplate. Just look at Ferrari of Lamborghini, people buy them because they feel that its a name they can trust and its a name that is proven performance.

I'm sorry, but if I'm throwing out 90 grand for a Mustang, I'd better be getting AT LEAST 2 Bad*ss Mustangs!
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by slavehand@April 8, 2005, 10:04 AM
If your referring to the hood from the XMP website, I believe that's the Boy Racer body from 3D Carbon. Their link is here, scroll down to the bottom.
You hit the nail on the head. I really like the look of that hood. If that hood if functional and helps the hood chatter people have been complaining about, then that is one change I will definitely do to my car at some point in time. Probably only other exterior changes I would consider would be tires/wheels. Although I may just keep it 100% stock and just start saving my $ for the SVT when it becomes available.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 12:24 AM
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Originally posted by slavehand+April 8, 2005, 6:56 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(slavehand @ April 8, 2005, 6:56 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-mr-mstng@April 7, 2005, 8:42 AM
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102139

Boyd Coddington now. But, come on, an additional $60K!? $90K for a mustang? Saleen can't sell them for $45K, what makes him think he can do the same for twice the price???


For real. I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'm just about "Boyd'd out" Not to take anything away form his finished produts, but I haven't seen anything that he's done that any other car builder/rebuilder/customizer does. Except he thinks he's Gods gift to the automobile world. Now, he's got a $90K+ "Crazy Hourse II"......

I'm sure they'll be plenty of rich fools that will be dying to have one. Congratulations Boyd, you deserve it..... :notnice:

Thanks for the info Rob.
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Boyds finished products now are garbage. He doesn't do any designing or fabricating himself. The man is washed up. The best stuff to come out of his shop was when Chip Foose ran it for him.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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OT: Just goes to show where the real talent is -- Foose is amazing. Did you see his latest Ridler winner? WOW.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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^I bet the Foose Mustang would run circles around the Boyd Mustang for 1/2 the cost, both in appearance and performance.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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Its wierd that x-m-p is now using 3-d carbon parts. Their SEMA stang looked pretty unique and custom. Not my taste in general, but I did like their quarter window replacement on the SEMA car.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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ugh, 100k for a mustang?

I'd rather do my own, and I am darn sure I could do a better job.

Seriously, people like that give give bipeds a bad name.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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seriously, I need to find someone to help me start my company, I am looking at a body kit, lowering springs, rims big brake kit twin turbo kit, engine upgrades and so on, where everything on the list would run you less than 16k that's with a forged rotating assembly shortblock possibly a 5.0L big bore 3valver.

If they can charge 100k for their bullcrap than I should be able to sell a lot more for 16k (or less for less options)
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Old May 6, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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Here's a little story that I just stumbled over in my local paper (Orange County Register). Apparently, Boyd Coddington pleaded no contest on April 7 to a misdemeanor charge of submitting counterfit vehicle titles to the Ca. DMV. As a result, he has been fined $3,000 and sentenced to 160 hours of community service. It was reported that Boyd (he's claiming he is being singled out because of his hi-profile business) was doing business with an out of state title company who was supplying him with vintage titles on old/junked cars. These titles were then used to register his hi-dollar replicas as antique vehicles with Ca. DMV thus avoiding expensive licensing fees and the strict Ca. emission regulations. And according to the state of Ca. that's a big no-no.

Here's the interview from the article

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Hotshot hot-rod builder denies fraudulent intent
People in the News

By GWENDOLYN DRISCOLL
THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER


Q. Do you think what you did was wrong?

A.
At the time I was doing it, no, I thought it was OK. The way they've explained it to me now, it is wrong. But that's the way we've all done it, that's the way it's been done, and I don't think we did anything fraudulently, I don't think we did anything with malice, it was just the standard way of doing that.

Q. You pleaded no contest to obtaining vintage titles for brand-new, Coddington-built vehicles that were stylized replicas of 1930s-era Fords. In what way did you think this was OK?

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What difference does it make? It's very obvious the car's made out of fiberglass. You're not really misrepresenting something.

I don't think anybody who's ever bought one of these things from anybody didn't know this was a fiberglass car or a remake of an actual car.

Q. Why did you choose to use out-of-state title firms?

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They're pretty legitimate places as far as I was concerned. They were advertised in the local Hemmings (Motor News Magazine), in the back of Street Rodder Magazine, they've been around for a long time. Everybody in the business did that, OK? Because of being who I am, (the Attorney General's Office) started beating up on me.

Q. Are people misrepresenting the age or type of their vehicles to avoid car registration taxes?

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If a guy's got enough money to pay $100,000 for a car, he can pay the tax on it. But if the loophole is there, he'll go through it. Everybody will do that, that's human nature. Maybe there are some people have understated what their cars are worth, but I think once they know that's not the right thing to do they'll get that taken care of.

The state has to understand that when (a hot-rod owner) builds the car...he's paying sales tax on all those parts, so they're not getting out of that.

Q. How widespread is the problem of illegally titling cars?

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I think that the number one problem is they've overstated how many cars have been fraudulently registered. It's totally ridiculous, that 70,000 figure. I'll bet you if it was 3,000 cars it would be a lot.

Q. What do you think the Attorney General's Office is doing to resolve the problem?

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I think they're working very hard to resolve this issue. I think they have a problem politically and internally with the Department of Motor Vehicles. The DMV doesn't know what to do to fix the problem, so they can't tell us how to fix the problem.
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Old May 8, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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Why are these tuners doing this to the mustang? Wasn't the mustang suposed to be an averaged priced car that their average guy or girl could tune to his or her own tastes, likes or dislikes and spend as much or as little as he wanted to modify it but still be a part of the process along the way.Any body with the cash could always go out and by the Corvetes the Porsche and so forth. But now they seem to want to take all the fun out of it. If you are inclined to by a $50,000- $90,000 mustang save your money, such a car really doesn't exist but there are people that will sell you one for that. May I suggest a BMW M3, BMW M5, Corvette Z06, Porsche 911 and Im sure you will like any of these much more than you will a $90,000 Mustang. And I promise you the resale value will be much higher in 10 yrs than your $90,0000 Mustang
But I know its all about the $$$$$$ and the sukkkers with it.
I love my 05 but it is what it is a Mustang
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