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Originally posted by TheMustangSource@April 7, 2005, 3:27 PM
If you get on their list and sign a contract to pay $65,000 for the Shelby, I wonder how upset they'd be if Ford set MSRP at $75,000?
If you get on their list and sign a contract to pay $65,000 for the Shelby, I wonder how upset they'd be if Ford set MSRP at $75,000?
Originally posted by TheMustangSource@April 7, 2005, 1:02 PM
I just wonder how dealerships are setting pricing for this car before Ford does. :scratch:
I just wonder how dealerships are setting pricing for this car before Ford does. :scratch:
Honestly, people, there are very, very few individuals who would pay $65K for this car.
Most Ford fans and Shelby enthusisasts don't have the $65K to drop.
Collectors who simply want one for the "name" and have money to burn aren't that common.
Rich car enthusiasts, frankly, are generally not buying domestic vehicles, and when they see a Mustang GT with what amounts to some off-the-shelf parts upgrades, a more powerful engine, the Shelby name...and the dreaded SRA, they'll laugh at $65K like most of us on this board are laughing. Then they'll go buy their Bimmer.
Will any dealerships sell these cars for $65K? They might sell one at that price, if they're lucky. There's simply too much competition out there right now, and at $65K, the Shelby won't even show up on many buyers' radar. I think this is a case of said dealerships reach exceeding their grasp...grasp on reality, that is.
Vote with your pocket book and walk away. Then they'll get the message.
Most Ford fans and Shelby enthusisasts don't have the $65K to drop.
Collectors who simply want one for the "name" and have money to burn aren't that common.
Rich car enthusiasts, frankly, are generally not buying domestic vehicles, and when they see a Mustang GT with what amounts to some off-the-shelf parts upgrades, a more powerful engine, the Shelby name...and the dreaded SRA, they'll laugh at $65K like most of us on this board are laughing. Then they'll go buy their Bimmer.
Will any dealerships sell these cars for $65K? They might sell one at that price, if they're lucky. There's simply too much competition out there right now, and at $65K, the Shelby won't even show up on many buyers' radar. I think this is a case of said dealerships reach exceeding their grasp...grasp on reality, that is.
Vote with your pocket book and walk away. Then they'll get the message.
Originally posted by conv_stang@April 8, 2005, 8:46 AM
the 2000 R showed people are willing to pay way above sticker to get one. were there some 00R's going for like 85k when sticker was like 56?
the 2000 R showed people are willing to pay way above sticker to get one. were there some 00R's going for like 85k when sticker was like 56?
To be an SVT Dealer, your technicians have to be certified to work on SVT products. That calls for extra training.Not many Ford dealers want to spend extra cash sending their technicians to school, just to sell a handful of Cobra's every year.
As far as marking up the price on these new Shelby's? I advise all of us to complain, and let Ford know about as soon as it happens!
But, if Ford plans to sell this car at $45k ( too much IMO ), its just another reason for Ford to release an SE in the $30-35k range.
As far as marking up the price on these new Shelby's? I advise all of us to complain, and let Ford know about as soon as it happens!
But, if Ford plans to sell this car at $45k ( too much IMO ), its just another reason for Ford to release an SE in the $30-35k range.
Originally posted by Robert@April 8, 2005, 1:38 AM
Honestly, people, there are very, very few individuals who would pay $65K for this car.
Most Ford fans and Shelby enthusisasts don't have the $65K to drop.
Collectors who simply want one for the "name" and have money to burn aren't that common.
Rich car enthusiasts, frankly, are generally not buying domestic vehicles, and when they see a Mustang GT with what amounts to some off-the-shelf parts upgrades, a more powerful engine, the Shelby name...and the dreaded SRA, they'll laugh at $65K like most of us on this board are laughing. Then they'll go buy their Bimmer.
Will any dealerships sell these cars for $65K? They might sell one at that price, if they're lucky. There's simply too much competition out there right now, and at $65K, the Shelby won't even show up on many buyers' radar. I think this is a case of said dealerships reach exceeding their grasp...grasp on reality, that is.
Vote with your pocket book and walk away. Then they'll get the message.
Honestly, people, there are very, very few individuals who would pay $65K for this car.
Most Ford fans and Shelby enthusisasts don't have the $65K to drop.
Collectors who simply want one for the "name" and have money to burn aren't that common.
Rich car enthusiasts, frankly, are generally not buying domestic vehicles, and when they see a Mustang GT with what amounts to some off-the-shelf parts upgrades, a more powerful engine, the Shelby name...and the dreaded SRA, they'll laugh at $65K like most of us on this board are laughing. Then they'll go buy their Bimmer.
Will any dealerships sell these cars for $65K? They might sell one at that price, if they're lucky. There's simply too much competition out there right now, and at $65K, the Shelby won't even show up on many buyers' radar. I think this is a case of said dealerships reach exceeding their grasp...grasp on reality, that is.
Vote with your pocket book and walk away. Then they'll get the message.
Originally posted by GTJOHN@April 9, 2005, 5:29 AM
To be an SVT Dealer, your technicians have to be certified to work on SVT products. That calls for extra training.Not many Ford dealers want to spend extra cash sending their technicians to school, just to sell a handful of Cobra's every year.
As far as marking up the price on these new Shelby's? I advise all of us to complain, and let Ford know about as soon as it happens!
But, if Ford plans to sell this car at $45k ( too much IMO ), its just another reason for Ford to release an SE in the $30-35k range.
To be an SVT Dealer, your technicians have to be certified to work on SVT products. That calls for extra training.Not many Ford dealers want to spend extra cash sending their technicians to school, just to sell a handful of Cobra's every year.
As far as marking up the price on these new Shelby's? I advise all of us to complain, and let Ford know about as soon as it happens!
But, if Ford plans to sell this car at $45k ( too much IMO ), its just another reason for Ford to release an SE in the $30-35k range.
Price gouging is only illegal in emergency circumstances and only applies to necessary goods. A Shelby GT 500 hardly classifies as a necessary good. Dealers have the freedom to charge whatever they want for a car (how would you like the government telling you how much you could sell something to another party for?). The only one who has any ability to stop price gouging like this would be Ford. They could mandate that these cars cannot be sold for over X amount of money, but it is unlikely that they would do something like that.
I wouldn't get too worked up over it. Yes, some dealers will try to make fatter margins. It makes up for having overstock on cars and inventory turns that took a lot longer than they thought on others. It probably won't last long (6 months). If you're willing to pay $10K, $15K or $25K to get a car 6 months or a year earlier, then more power to you. Ford will just ramp up production, others will realize that they could turn more units if they dropped the price (as long as they can get the allotment), and it will all work out in the end.
This isn't a case like some scalping; where someone is buying up the supply to drive up the cost. (DeBeers monopoly). It isn't someone charging $10 for a bottle of water. It's a high-priced toy, that may be impacted short term by supply constraints. But Ford will either ramp up to match demand, or they'll miss opportunities to make revenue and bring more customers to the brand.
This isn't a case like some scalping; where someone is buying up the supply to drive up the cost. (DeBeers monopoly). It isn't someone charging $10 for a bottle of water. It's a high-priced toy, that may be impacted short term by supply constraints. But Ford will either ramp up to match demand, or they'll miss opportunities to make revenue and bring more customers to the brand.
The highest prices I have received from dealers so far is $10,000. over msrp and 25% over msrp. I would never even consider something like that. I have had several dealers tell me 1000-3000 over msrp. Still not biting on that though. Worst case scenario is I miss out. That would be Fords loss, not mine. Personally, I think I'll have one in the garage for msrp next summer or fall.
Originally posted by dke@April 13, 2005, 6:21 AM
I wouldn't get too worked up over it. Yes, some dealers will try to make fatter margins. It makes up for having overstock on cars and inventory turns that took a lot longer than they thought on others. It probably won't last long (6 months). If you're willing to pay $10K, $15K or $25K to get a car 6 months or a year earlier, then more power to you. Ford will just ramp up production, others will realize that they could turn more units if they dropped the price (as long as they can get the allotment), and it will all work out in the end.
This isn't a case like some scalping; where someone is buying up the supply to drive up the cost. (DeBeers monopoly). It isn't someone charging $10 for a bottle of water. It's a high-priced toy, that may be impacted short term by supply constraints. But Ford will either ramp up to match demand, or they'll miss opportunities to make revenue and bring more customers to the brand.
I wouldn't get too worked up over it. Yes, some dealers will try to make fatter margins. It makes up for having overstock on cars and inventory turns that took a lot longer than they thought on others. It probably won't last long (6 months). If you're willing to pay $10K, $15K or $25K to get a car 6 months or a year earlier, then more power to you. Ford will just ramp up production, others will realize that they could turn more units if they dropped the price (as long as they can get the allotment), and it will all work out in the end.
This isn't a case like some scalping; where someone is buying up the supply to drive up the cost. (DeBeers monopoly). It isn't someone charging $10 for a bottle of water. It's a high-priced toy, that may be impacted short term by supply constraints. But Ford will either ramp up to match demand, or they'll miss opportunities to make revenue and bring more customers to the brand.
Originally posted by beneman+April 14, 2005, 3:10 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(beneman @ April 14, 2005, 3:10 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-dke@April 13, 2005, 6:21 AM
I wouldn't get too worked up over it. Yes, some dealers will try to make fatter margins. It makes up for having overstock on cars and inventory turns that took a lot longer than they thought on others. It probably won't last long (6 months). If you're willing to pay $10K, $15K or $25K to get a car 6 months or a year earlier, then more power to you. Ford will just ramp up production, others will realize that they could turn more units if they dropped the price (as long as they can get the allotment), and it will all work out in the end.
This isn't a case like some scalping; where someone is buying up the supply to drive up the cost. (DeBeers monopoly). It isn't someone charging $10 for a bottle of water. It's a high-priced toy, that may be impacted short term by supply constraints. But Ford will either ramp up to match demand, or they'll miss opportunities to make revenue and bring more customers to the brand.
I wouldn't get too worked up over it. Yes, some dealers will try to make fatter margins. It makes up for having overstock on cars and inventory turns that took a lot longer than they thought on others. It probably won't last long (6 months). If you're willing to pay $10K, $15K or $25K to get a car 6 months or a year earlier, then more power to you. Ford will just ramp up production, others will realize that they could turn more units if they dropped the price (as long as they can get the allotment), and it will all work out in the end.
This isn't a case like some scalping; where someone is buying up the supply to drive up the cost. (DeBeers monopoly). It isn't someone charging $10 for a bottle of water. It's a high-priced toy, that may be impacted short term by supply constraints. But Ford will either ramp up to match demand, or they'll miss opportunities to make revenue and bring more customers to the brand.

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Ford has ramped up GT production. They may also ramp up Cobra production. I also wonder why so many of these people are "still waiting" when every dealer in my area has 5 GT's on the lot for MSRP or under. Perhaps these people need an excuse why they dont have a 2005 gt? There is a whole lot of BS on the net and 90% of it seems to revolve around the 2005+ mustang.
Also take into consideration there are a whole lot of posers and ******* when talking about the cobra. Many people on here saying "I will get one". Truth be told many are in a salary a range where its only a dream for them no matter what they want to portray or say on the internet. Im sure more than a few of these guys cant even afford a Hyundai let alone a Cobra. Many couldnt clear it with the spouse. Many have another reason/reasons why they cant or wont wind up getting one.
If every person on the net followed through on their car purchases they claim on message boards it seems like everyone would be driving a brand new vette,viper,nsx,cobra, 2005 gt, etc.
Ill be honest and say im not getting one or even thinking about trying in the first year. I love the car but am happy with my current stang. I could tell you i was getting one though and since its the net no one could say otherwise.


