Aftermarket 2005+ Mustangs Discuss the Offerings from Roush, Saleen, Steeda, Shinoda, and Others

65 grand for cobra at my dealer

Old Apr 7, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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I doubt you will be getting a Z06 for $65. Even if the sticker price is $65, they are going to go for over sticker as well. That is also one bada** car.
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by TheMustangSource@April 7, 2005, 3:27 PM
If you get on their list and sign a contract to pay $65,000 for the Shelby, I wonder how upset they'd be if Ford set MSRP at $75,000?
Contracts aren't worth the paper they are printed on.
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by TheMustangSource@April 7, 2005, 1:02 PM
I just wonder how dealerships are setting pricing for this car before Ford does. :scratch:
This is, of course, an estimate. They are not taking orders or starting a list yet, but this was the figure (65K) they are hearing right now.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 12:35 AM
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Honestly, people, there are very, very few individuals who would pay $65K for this car.

Most Ford fans and Shelby enthusisasts don't have the $65K to drop.

Collectors who simply want one for the "name" and have money to burn aren't that common.

Rich car enthusiasts, frankly, are generally not buying domestic vehicles, and when they see a Mustang GT with what amounts to some off-the-shelf parts upgrades, a more powerful engine, the Shelby name...and the dreaded SRA, they'll laugh at $65K like most of us on this board are laughing. Then they'll go buy their Bimmer.

Will any dealerships sell these cars for $65K? They might sell one at that price, if they're lucky. There's simply too much competition out there right now, and at $65K, the Shelby won't even show up on many buyers' radar. I think this is a case of said dealerships reach exceeding their grasp...grasp on reality, that is.

Vote with your pocket book and walk away. Then they'll get the message.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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the 2000 R showed people are willing to pay way above sticker to get one. were there some 00R's going for like 85k when sticker was like 56?
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 07:52 AM
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Originally posted by conv_stang@April 8, 2005, 8:46 AM
the 2000 R showed people are willing to pay way above sticker to get one. were there some 00R's going for like 85k when sticker was like 56?
True, but there were only a few hundred made of the 'R'. There will be several thousand GT500s.
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 04:29 AM
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I never said a Z06 would go for 65K. I figure more like 75K. My point is that the Z06 at 75k would be a better value than the GT500 at 65K.
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 05:26 AM
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To be an SVT Dealer, your technicians have to be certified to work on SVT products. That calls for extra training.Not many Ford dealers want to spend extra cash sending their technicians to school, just to sell a handful of Cobra's every year.

As far as marking up the price on these new Shelby's? I advise all of us to complain, and let Ford know about as soon as it happens!

But, if Ford plans to sell this car at $45k ( too much IMO ), its just another reason for Ford to release an SE in the $30-35k range.
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by Robert@April 8, 2005, 1:38 AM
Honestly, people, there are very, very few individuals who would pay $65K for this car.

Most Ford fans and Shelby enthusisasts don't have the $65K to drop.

Collectors who simply want one for the "name" and have money to burn aren't that common.

Rich car enthusiasts, frankly, are generally not buying domestic vehicles, and when they see a Mustang GT with what amounts to some off-the-shelf parts upgrades, a more powerful engine, the Shelby name...and the dreaded SRA, they'll laugh at $65K like most of us on this board are laughing. Then they'll go buy their Bimmer.

Will any dealerships sell these cars for $65K? They might sell one at that price, if they're lucky. There's simply too much competition out there right now, and at $65K, the Shelby won't even show up on many buyers' radar. I think this is a case of said dealerships reach exceeding their grasp...grasp on reality, that is.

Vote with your pocket book and walk away. Then they'll get the message.
Perfect post. One of the most thoughtful things said on this board in awhile.
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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That's waaaaaaaay too much.
But there are people who are going to pay that kind of money to get that car.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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Its the morons that will pay over sticker that hurts us all. But its still early to speculate. Lots of bad info still coming from peoples annonymous "sources" and dealers.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by GTJOHN@April 9, 2005, 5:29 AM
To be an SVT Dealer, your technicians have to be certified to work on SVT products. That calls for extra training.Not many Ford dealers want to spend extra cash sending their technicians to school, just to sell a handful of Cobra's every year.

As far as marking up the price on these new Shelby's? I advise all of us to complain, and let Ford know about as soon as it happens!

But, if Ford plans to sell this car at $45k ( too much IMO ), its just another reason for Ford to release an SE in the $30-35k range.
SVT certified dealers crack me up. After taking my 03 cobra for a test drive the first time my "SVT Certified" salesman asked me "how's that 320 horsepower feel" and he kept pointing out that the 03 cobra has 320 horsepower until I corrected him. :bang:
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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I thought price gouging was illegal?
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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Price gouging is only illegal in emergency circumstances and only applies to necessary goods. A Shelby GT 500 hardly classifies as a necessary good. Dealers have the freedom to charge whatever they want for a car (how would you like the government telling you how much you could sell something to another party for?). The only one who has any ability to stop price gouging like this would be Ford. They could mandate that these cars cannot be sold for over X amount of money, but it is unlikely that they would do something like that.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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Have you ever heard of ticket scalping. Why is that illegal in most states?
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 06:18 AM
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I wouldn't get too worked up over it. Yes, some dealers will try to make fatter margins. It makes up for having overstock on cars and inventory turns that took a lot longer than they thought on others. It probably won't last long (6 months). If you're willing to pay $10K, $15K or $25K to get a car 6 months or a year earlier, then more power to you. Ford will just ramp up production, others will realize that they could turn more units if they dropped the price (as long as they can get the allotment), and it will all work out in the end.

This isn't a case like some scalping; where someone is buying up the supply to drive up the cost. (DeBeers monopoly). It isn't someone charging $10 for a bottle of water. It's a high-priced toy, that may be impacted short term by supply constraints. But Ford will either ramp up to match demand, or they'll miss opportunities to make revenue and bring more customers to the brand.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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Excellent points David!
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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The highest prices I have received from dealers so far is $10,000. over msrp and 25% over msrp. I would never even consider something like that. I have had several dealers tell me 1000-3000 over msrp. Still not biting on that though. Worst case scenario is I miss out. That would be Fords loss, not mine. Personally, I think I'll have one in the garage for msrp next summer or fall.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by dke@April 13, 2005, 6:21 AM
I wouldn't get too worked up over it. Yes, some dealers will try to make fatter margins. It makes up for having overstock on cars and inventory turns that took a lot longer than they thought on others. It probably won't last long (6 months). If you're willing to pay $10K, $15K or $25K to get a car 6 months or a year earlier, then more power to you. Ford will just ramp up production, others will realize that they could turn more units if they dropped the price (as long as they can get the allotment), and it will all work out in the end.

This isn't a case like some scalping; where someone is buying up the supply to drive up the cost. (DeBeers monopoly). It isn't someone charging $10 for a bottle of water. It's a high-priced toy, that may be impacted short term by supply constraints. But Ford will either ramp up to match demand, or they'll miss opportunities to make revenue and bring more customers to the brand.
I disagree with your comment that Ford will just ramp up production. Judging by the numerious postings on the 2005 forums from people who have been waiting months for their 05 GTs to be built, I am not seeing it. If Ford can't produce enough GTs to satisfy demand, how can you expect them to produce as many GT500s as customers demand?
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by beneman+April 14, 2005, 3:10 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(beneman @ April 14, 2005, 3:10 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-dke@April 13, 2005, 6:21 AM
I wouldn't get too worked up over it. Yes, some dealers will try to make fatter margins. It makes up for having overstock on cars and inventory turns that took a lot longer than they thought on others. It probably won't last long (6 months). If you're willing to pay $10K, $15K or $25K to get a car 6 months or a year earlier, then more power to you. Ford will just ramp up production, others will realize that they could turn more units if they dropped the price (as long as they can get the allotment), and it will all work out in the end.

This isn't a case like some scalping; where someone is buying up the supply to drive up the cost. (DeBeers monopoly). It isn't someone charging $10 for a bottle of water. It's a high-priced toy, that may be impacted short term by supply constraints. But Ford will either ramp up to match demand, or they'll miss opportunities to make revenue and bring more customers to the brand.
I disagree with your comment that Ford will just ramp up production. Judging by the numerious postings on the 2005 forums from people who have been waiting months for their 05 GTs to be built, I am not seeing it. If Ford can't produce enough GTs to satisfy demand, how can you expect them to produce as many GT500s as customers demand?
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Ford has ramped up GT production. They may also ramp up Cobra production. I also wonder why so many of these people are "still waiting" when every dealer in my area has 5 GT's on the lot for MSRP or under. Perhaps these people need an excuse why they dont have a 2005 gt? There is a whole lot of BS on the net and 90% of it seems to revolve around the 2005+ mustang.

Also take into consideration there are a whole lot of posers and ******* when talking about the cobra. Many people on here saying "I will get one". Truth be told many are in a salary a range where its only a dream for them no matter what they want to portray or say on the internet. Im sure more than a few of these guys cant even afford a Hyundai let alone a Cobra. Many couldnt clear it with the spouse. Many have another reason/reasons why they cant or wont wind up getting one.

If every person on the net followed through on their car purchases they claim on message boards it seems like everyone would be driving a brand new vette,viper,nsx,cobra, 2005 gt, etc.

Ill be honest and say im not getting one or even thinking about trying in the first year. I love the car but am happy with my current stang. I could tell you i was getting one though and since its the net no one could say otherwise.
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