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12/15/05, 11:49 AM
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Hey all you V6'ers, look what Sean Hyland Motorsports did with this customers V6.
Here is what Sean Hyland Motorsports wrote:
03 Cobra Style supercharged engine installed in 2005 Mustang
"A customer recently drove in to our shop with a stock 2005 V6 Mustang, and we installed an aluminum block 4.6 DOHC engine with an 03 Cobra supercharger package. There was a lot of work to do to make this work, but the results were worthwhile. For those who can't wait for the Shelby GT500, this is the next best thing."
Here is what Sean Hyland Motorsports wrote:
03 Cobra Style supercharged engine installed in 2005 Mustang
"A customer recently drove in to our shop with a stock 2005 V6 Mustang, and we installed an aluminum block 4.6 DOHC engine with an 03 Cobra supercharger package. There was a lot of work to do to make this work, but the results were worthwhile. For those who can't wait for the Shelby GT500, this is the next best thing."
12/15/05, 12:58 PM
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How much was the swap w/install and all necessary parts?
12/15/05, 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by P_Kiley@December 15, 2005, 3:46 PM
Of course if you gut the car and drop a V8 in, it's not really "V6 tech and performance" worthy anymore
Of course if you gut the car and drop a V8 in, it's not really "V6 tech and performance" worthy anymore
12/15/05, 02:19 PM
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Haha, yes saying a V8 powered car does not belong in a "V6 Tech and Performance" forum is just a terribly narrow minded thing to say.
Perhaps a new forum is in order. Something along the lines of "Mustangs with V6 VINs, but are Actually Fast Now," maybe?
Perhaps a new forum is in order. Something along the lines of "Mustangs with V6 VINs, but are Actually Fast Now," maybe?
12/15/05, 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by AnotherMustangMan@December 15, 2005, 4:22 PM
Haha, yes saying a V8 powered car does not belong in a "V6 Tech and Performance" forum is just a terribly narrow minded thing to say.
Perhaps a new forum is in order. Something along the lines of "Mustangs with V6 VINs, but are Actually Fast Now," maybe?
Haha, yes saying a V8 powered car does not belong in a "V6 Tech and Performance" forum is just a terribly narrow minded thing to say.
Perhaps a new forum is in order. Something along the lines of "Mustangs with V6 VINs, but are Actually Fast Now," maybe?
Then we would have to set one up for 5.0 as well. Oh wait, isn't there "High Performance Mustang" type threads for these one of a kind rides?
12/15/05, 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by AnotherMustangMan@December 15, 2005, 1:22 PM
Haha, yes saying a V8 powered car does not belong in a "V6 Tech and Performance" forum is just a terribly narrow minded thing to say.
Perhaps a new forum is in order. Something along the lines of "Mustangs with V6 VINs, but are Actually Fast Now," maybe?
Haha, yes saying a V8 powered car does not belong in a "V6 Tech and Performance" forum is just a terribly narrow minded thing to say.
Perhaps a new forum is in order. Something along the lines of "Mustangs with V6 VINs, but are Actually Fast Now," maybe?
A customer made an informed decision.. Spend more money on a GT to swap the engine, or save $5K on the deal to apply it to his original Cobra motor idea...
It appears to me, this guy bought a 2005 Mustang chassis, and intended to swap the motor no matter which car he bought.. V6 or GT..
He does now need to swap the rest of the drivetrain components however... Maybe someone can run the numbers, and figure out what he gave up in the GT's package besides the motor...
It could be that just buying a GT and doing the swap may have been cheaper... He would also be able to sell the 4.6L 3V to help pay for the rest of the drivetrain..
12/15/05, 03:01 PM
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Eh, if you have the money to do a terminator swap in a brand new car you probably aren't too worried about the most economical way to do it. That car is probably just one of many toys for that guy.
12/15/05, 03:05 PM
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That was pretty close to the train of thought I was going to add..
The guy is most likley about $45K+ into the car now, with the cost of the engine, and labor.. So I dont think comparing the deal to a GT would be worth anything...
Its probably a good idea to say he paid $15K+ for the engine alone, if its new.. Lets add another 15K for parts and labor, and conclude this guy was not impressed with the GT500 and took matters into his own hands..
It is curious why he went with a 4.6L, and not just move to a fulley prepped 5.4L block.. Seems to me, he probably could paid about the same either way..
The guy is most likley about $45K+ into the car now, with the cost of the engine, and labor.. So I dont think comparing the deal to a GT would be worth anything...
Its probably a good idea to say he paid $15K+ for the engine alone, if its new.. Lets add another 15K for parts and labor, and conclude this guy was not impressed with the GT500 and took matters into his own hands..
It is curious why he went with a 4.6L, and not just move to a fulley prepped 5.4L block.. Seems to me, he probably could paid about the same either way..
12/15/05, 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by MSP@December 15, 2005, 5:08 PM
That was pretty close to the train of thought I was going to add..
The guy is most likley about $45K+ into the car now, with the cost of the engine, and labor.. So I dont think comparing the deal to a GT would be worth anything...
Its probably a good idea to say he paid $15K+ for the engine alone, if its new.. Lets add another 15K for parts and labor, and conclude this guy was not impressed with the GT500 and took matters into his own hands..
It is curious why he went with a 4.6L, and not just move to a fulley prepped 5.4L block.. Seems to me, he probably could paid about the same either way..
That was pretty close to the train of thought I was going to add..
The guy is most likley about $45K+ into the car now, with the cost of the engine, and labor.. So I dont think comparing the deal to a GT would be worth anything...
Its probably a good idea to say he paid $15K+ for the engine alone, if its new.. Lets add another 15K for parts and labor, and conclude this guy was not impressed with the GT500 and took matters into his own hands..
It is curious why he went with a 4.6L, and not just move to a fulley prepped 5.4L block.. Seems to me, he probably could paid about the same either way..
12/15/05, 03:26 PM
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On the phone with them now!
12/15/05, 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by rygenstormlocke@December 15, 2005, 6:25 PM
Would there be any fitment issues with a 5.4L block or any other type crate motor? There's a lot left unknown here, we need more details. Anyone have contact information, I'll give them a call!
Would there be any fitment issues with a 5.4L block or any other type crate motor? There's a lot left unknown here, we need more details. Anyone have contact information, I'll give them a call!
12/15/05, 03:37 PM
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Ok, I got the details; the guy that had this done was very specific. I think he wanted a stock GT look.
On the 5.4L Block, the engine would fit, assuming it was the carberrated 5.4, but it would need a new hood to clear the engine. This is straight form SHM.
Now, the technical details:
• 05 GT Tranny\8.8 rear end
• 100% custom exhaust
• LT headers
• 03 Cobra Eaton SC @ 12 PSI
He said the guy that owned it specifically wanted a 4.6, and that this is not his DD. He’s a hard core racer.
Also, he said the guy will be back this week to get a Kenny Brown Twin Screw SC @ 17 PSI.
• TOTAL COST w/Labor: $23K
Now for the numbers:
• Dyno Runs between 460-470 RWHP (STD)
STD mind you, sorry, for that type of money, the HP numbers just don’t add up. We have all seen GT’s running 500 RWHP SAE if I remember correctly with SC for a lot less.
Am I missing something here? The cost/HP ratio of what we are using to seeing on the 05's just dosent add up. Unless he has some long term plans in mind?
On the 5.4L Block, the engine would fit, assuming it was the carberrated 5.4, but it would need a new hood to clear the engine. This is straight form SHM.
Now, the technical details:
• 05 GT Tranny\8.8 rear end
• 100% custom exhaust
• LT headers
• 03 Cobra Eaton SC @ 12 PSI
He said the guy that owned it specifically wanted a 4.6, and that this is not his DD. He’s a hard core racer.
Also, he said the guy will be back this week to get a Kenny Brown Twin Screw SC @ 17 PSI.
• TOTAL COST w/Labor: $23K
Now for the numbers:
• Dyno Runs between 460-470 RWHP (STD)
STD mind you, sorry, for that type of money, the HP numbers just don’t add up. We have all seen GT’s running 500 RWHP SAE if I remember correctly with SC for a lot less.
Am I missing something here? The cost/HP ratio of what we are using to seeing on the 05's just dosent add up. Unless he has some long term plans in mind?
12/15/05, 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by rygenstormlocke@December 15, 2005, 6:40 PM
Ok, I got the details; the guy that had this done was very specific. I think he wanted a stock GT look.
On the 5.4L Block, the engine would fit, assuming it was the carberrated 5.4, but it would need a new hood to clear the engine. This is straight form SHM.
Now, the technical details:
• 05 GT Tranny\8.8 rear end
• 100% custom exhaust
• LT headers
• 03 Cobra Eaton SC @ 12 PSI
He said the guy that owned it specifically wanted a 4.6, and that this is not his DD. He’s a hard core racer.
Also, he said the guy will be back this week to get a Kenny Brown Twin Screw SC @ 17 PSI.
• TOTAL COST w/Labor: $23K
Now for the numbers:
• Dyno Runs between 460-470 RWHP (STD)
STD mind you, sorry, for that type of money, the HP numbers just don’t add up. We have all seen GT’s running 500 RWHP SAE if I remember correctly with SC for a lot less.
Am I missing something here? The cost/HP ratio of what we are using to seeing on the 05's just dosent add up. Unless he has some long term plans in mind?
Ok, I got the details; the guy that had this done was very specific. I think he wanted a stock GT look.
On the 5.4L Block, the engine would fit, assuming it was the carberrated 5.4, but it would need a new hood to clear the engine. This is straight form SHM.
Now, the technical details:
• 05 GT Tranny\8.8 rear end
• 100% custom exhaust
• LT headers
• 03 Cobra Eaton SC @ 12 PSI
He said the guy that owned it specifically wanted a 4.6, and that this is not his DD. He’s a hard core racer.
Also, he said the guy will be back this week to get a Kenny Brown Twin Screw SC @ 17 PSI.
• TOTAL COST w/Labor: $23K
Now for the numbers:
• Dyno Runs between 460-470 RWHP (STD)
STD mind you, sorry, for that type of money, the HP numbers just don’t add up. We have all seen GT’s running 500 RWHP SAE if I remember correctly with SC for a lot less.
Am I missing something here? The cost/HP ratio of what we are using to seeing on the 05's just dosent add up. Unless he has some long term plans in mind?
12/15/05, 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by Jimp@December 15, 2005, 5:42 PM
Where have you seen a GT with 500RWHP? With a stock block?
Where have you seen a GT with 500RWHP? With a stock block?
LOL, magazines. I will have to go back and re-read them. I think Cervini's has a blown GT at 500. Ok, I"m not exactly an expert, so eveyone weigh in on what they told me.