<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Puerto Rico 4.6 @ March 2, 2006, 5:35 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Yep i was going to point out the same thing, my numbers are SAE. Nice numbers Racer3 ,A/f looks pretty lean maybe u can get a bit more power if u fatten the fuel curve a bit. Did u really run 14.7 at 98 miles N/A? Sorry to point it out like this, but your HP and TQ numbers dont go hand in hand with 98 miles , thats why iam asking. Can u post the time slip?

Thanks to everyone for the Congrats,jeje. No Queen here, car goes to the track weekly ,jeje.

Hambone , everytime i try to post the graph it says it is to big, i tried scaling it down but then get an unaprove file extension error message. I have all the graphs on the WinPEP7 from Dynojet i can email them if anybody wants to help a "cumputer challenged friend", lol.
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I can help you get them to post up, just PM or email me. My email is listed on my profile.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TJ06 @ March 2, 2006, 7:22 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Congrats on the dyno nice. yea I remember you now PR 4.6 from another forum about 4 months ago your car ran a 14.92 with just a tune only I think it was and it was one of the fastest times I seen at that time N.A.
Racer 3 I agree with PR 4.6 you might of run the 14.70 but the MPH looks to be differently off it was a year ago and you probaly just don't remember the correct MPH check link below just add the MPH and 3500 for weight. He is right on with the 250HP to hit 98MPH If you find it and it says 98MPH please post it!!
http://www.4lo.com/calc/dynocalc.htm

PR 4.6 do you any plan for any mods in next few months? also when you going back to track?
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TJ06,
I agree, using that calculation deal, my trap speed should have only been 93 MPH. Also, at 62, my memory is foggy (mostly when my wife requests something) but with automobiles I still fairly sharp and I do remember 98 MPH trap speed. Of course, for me the most important thing was my ET, as that's what really counts anyway, isn't it. Besides at the time I didn't think it was that big of a deal. Into the 13's would be big and believe me I'd frame that time slip - but 14.7 just kinda seemed OK but nothing spectacular and that's why that time slip is in a drawer or a box someplace.

PR 4.6 I don't know you nor do I have a beef with you. But you claim to have more horsepower than I do and maybe you do and maybe I have more torque than you and so on and so on. But looking at your Dyno I don't really see that you have anything on me. You have good numbers but really no more or less than I.

 

was this at the track? or with a gtech racer? When i had my gtech i was doin like 14.8 @ 101mph when it was stock. It reads abnormally high for the MPH

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racer3 @ March 2, 2006, 8:09 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
TJ06,
I agree, using that calculation deal, my trap speed should have only been 93 MPH. Also, at 62, my memory is foggy (mostly when my wife requests something) but with automobiles I still fairly sharp and I do remember 98 MPH trap speed. Of course, for me the most important thing was my ET, as that's what really counts anyway, isn't it. Besides at the time I didn't think it was that big of a deal. Into the 13's would be big and believe me I'd frame that time slip - but 14.7 just kinda seemed OK but nothing spectacular and that's why that time slip is in a drawer or a box someplace.

PR 4.6 I don't know you nor do I have a beef with you. But you claim to have more horsepower than I do and maybe you do and maybe I have more torque than you and so on and so on. But looking at your Dyno I don't really see that you have anything on me. You have good numbers but really no more or less than I.
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Fair enough, and we are here to share our experiences and times. I'm not doubting your ET as I don't have enough drag racing experience to determine what the case would be, but I doubt you are running as much power as him because your numbers are STD. STD numbers are always higher than SAE, if your sheet was printed out via SAE, you might be suprised. I know I was when I had my first dyno done at STD and got a education lesson from Scrming. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rygenstormlocke @ March 2, 2006, 8:13 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Fair enough, and we are here to share our experiences and times. I'm not doubting your ET as I don't have enough drag racing experience to determine what the case would be, but I doubt you are running as much power as him because your numbers are STD. STD numbers are always higher than SAE, if your sheet was printed out via SAE, you might be suprised. I know I was when I had my first dyno done at STD and got a education lesson from Scrming. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
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Racer3 , sorry if i came down to harsh on you. I agree with you, ETs matter HP does not. But i still claim to better numbers, heres why: When i set up my graph as you have it with the speed mph axis on the bottom and change SAE to STD my numbers change to 216.84 HP and 262.55 TQ.You have 209 HP and 249 TQ. In addition the 209 is an artificial spike at the point were the converter locks up.Thats what i based my claim on. I agree with Rygen , we are here to share stories and help each other.

TJ, yep thats me, I ran 14.9 with only the xcal2. I am trying to cut back on modding the sixer since the 00gt is my running car and the sixer is the daily driver.But who knows, maybe i loose my mind...go crazy;As i would say jejejeje

Rygen i will email u my runs as soon as i can.Thanks

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fazm @ March 2, 2006, 8:11 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
was this at the track? or with a gtech racer? When i had my gtech i was doin like 14.8 @ 101mph when it was stock. It reads abnormally high for the MPH
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No it was at Darlington International Dragway in Darlington, SC. I'm sorry but I have no clue as to what you are talking about - what's a gtech racer?


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rygenstormlocke @ March 2, 2006, 8:13 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Fair enough, and we are here to share our experiences and times. I'm not doubting your ET as I don't have enough drag racing experience to determine what the case would be, but I doubt you are running as much power as him because your numbers are STD. STD numbers are always higher than SAE, if your sheet was printed out via SAE, you might be suprised. I know I was when I had my first dyno done at STD and got a education lesson from Scrming. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
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Thanks. But now I'm confused. What difference does it make STD or SAE? Better yet, what is the difference?
Yeah I consider John (Scrming) a friend and he has timeslips I'd definitely frame. We've had a lot of conversations but this never came up.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racer3 @ March 2, 2006, 8:36 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
No it was at Darlington International Dragway in Darlington, SC. I'm sorry but I have no clue as to what you are talking about - what's a gtech racer?
Thanks. But now I'm confused. What difference does it make STD or SAE? Better yet, what is the difference?
Yeah I consider John (Scrming) a friend and he has timeslips I'd definitely frame. We've had a lot of conversations but this never came up.
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No problem man, here is a definition of SAE, which is considered the most accurate correction for dyno graphs:

http://wahiduddin.net/calc/cf.htm

I'll dig up STD in a minute, I have to find it.

EDIT: Ah, found it in my book marks, here is a better read of it:

http://www.land-and-sea.com/dyno-tech-talk...-horsepower.htm

All the numbers you see us post are SAE by the way, sometimes a STD but SAE is what everyone follows.

 

Racer , i modified my last post and tried explaining but i guess Rygen beat me to it. Now do u understand what we mean? Precisely,John is the one that explained the whole converter spike issue on Auto's when Dynoed.

On the Race gas subject, you are definately King: 230 HpDamn . Would u mind sharing with us what type of Gas was it :103 108 C-16 etc. and what was the total timing the car was set to. Thanks.

 

So whats the status of the dyno graphs?

 

just seems odd. 98mph trap speed should be around a 13.7-14.1 depending on traction

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fazm @ March 2, 2006, 9:04 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
just seems odd. 98mph trap speed should be around a 13.7-14.1 depending on traction
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I ran a 14.2 at 98MPH. I guess with a few more runs I should have ran in the 13s though.

 

BlackLx4.0, what was your 60' time? With that trap speed I would expect you to be high 13's with a good launch.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fazm @ March 2, 2006, 9:04 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
just seems odd. 98mph trap speed should be around a 13.7-14.1 depending on traction
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While it doesn't sound "odd" to me, it may very well sound occ to you. What sounds odd to me is that you list 2 different ET's in your sig.....are you saying that if you ran your car in SC (we're a sea level state) you would automatically shave a couple of tenths off your ET?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(blaster199 @ March 2, 2006, 9:10 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
BlackLx4.0, what was your 60' time? With that trap speed I would expect you to be high 13's with a good launch.
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2.266. I only got one run and I didn't hit the juice right off the line. I was running the 235s, heh.

 

I suspect if you could spray earlier and still not spin, you could lower you 60' times to around 2.0 which would probably give you a solid 13.9 run on the 75 shot. With the 100 shot I would expect faster, but you are running skinny tires so traction will more than likely be a problem.

The theory is, is that at lower elevations your ET should be faster. There is a calculatotr for it online, but I can't remember where I found it. I believe it has to do with the air being thinner at higher altitudes, so the car gets less air than it would at sea level, but i'm no expert.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(blaster199 @ March 2, 2006, 9:59 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I suspect if you could spray earlier and still not spin, you could lower you 60' times to around 2.0 which would probably give you a solid 13.9 run on the 75 shot. With the 100 shot I would expect faster, but you are running skinny tires so traction will more than likely be a problem.

The theory is, is that at lower elevations your ET should be faster. There is a calculatotr for it online, but I can't remember where I found it. I believe it has to do with the air being thinner at higher altitudes, so the car gets less air than it would at sea level, but i'm no expert.
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The next time i go I will be using a 100 shot now that i have a tune. I should have my LCAs in by then. My next thing will be to get drag radials but I'm trying not to spend any money for a while. I've been spending waaaay too much. The DRs would be the last piece of the puzzle so to speak. Grrr. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif[/img]

 

ya, but when u do run ur 13, itll probably be at like 100 or 101mph, just watch [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]

 

The LCAs should help, but the drag radials will really make a difference! with that combo and the 100 shot, you should be well into the 13's.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(blaster199 @ March 2, 2006, 10:12 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
The LCAs should help, but the drag radials will really make a difference! with that combo and the 100 shot, you should be well into the 13's.
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I'll be shooting for 12s. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img]

 

With some track practice and a good launch, I dont see why it couldn't be done. scrming is at a 13.4 without drag radials. They will probably give you enough to hit the 12's. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banana.gif[/img] Be sure to post the slips after you go! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img]