Whipple vs. Kenne Bell
#21
The standard whipple kit offered everywhere is the 2.3.
Adam at ST Motorsports has already adapted the 3.4 whipple to a couple s197's with the 4.6, and he is doing two more.
The 2.3 whipple, 2.3 saleen, or 2.6H Kenne Bell is plenty to get this car in the 10's and all three are excellent superchargers.
I will say, however, from first hand experience at the track, that the whipple does have cooler intake air temps. I also picked the whipple kit because of the GT500 fuel pump system included with the kit.
The 2.6H KB will make more power when you start to push it above 16 psi.
Here are some vids for you:
A dyno run of my whipple at 16psi:
whipple @ 16psi 577rwhp / 519rwtq on a 2005 mustang
A race between my 2.3 whipple mustang vs Deans 2.6H KB mustang
Dean's Kenne Bell Mustang vs my Whipple Mustang.
A solo pass of Deans 2.6H KB car
[/url]Kenne Bell mustang daily driver, 10.55 @ 126.90
A dyno run of Deans KB 2.6H
Dean's Mustang GT Kenne Bell 16psi 560rwhp and 548 rwtq
If it matters, the whine from the whipple is definitely louder.
Adam at ST Motorsports has already adapted the 3.4 whipple to a couple s197's with the 4.6, and he is doing two more.
The 2.3 whipple, 2.3 saleen, or 2.6H Kenne Bell is plenty to get this car in the 10's and all three are excellent superchargers.
I will say, however, from first hand experience at the track, that the whipple does have cooler intake air temps. I also picked the whipple kit because of the GT500 fuel pump system included with the kit.
The 2.6H KB will make more power when you start to push it above 16 psi.
Here are some vids for you:
A dyno run of my whipple at 16psi:
whipple @ 16psi 577rwhp / 519rwtq on a 2005 mustang
A race between my 2.3 whipple mustang vs Deans 2.6H KB mustang
Dean's Kenne Bell Mustang vs my Whipple Mustang.
A solo pass of Deans 2.6H KB car
[/url]Kenne Bell mustang daily driver, 10.55 @ 126.90
A dyno run of Deans KB 2.6H
Dean's Mustang GT Kenne Bell 16psi 560rwhp and 548 rwtq
If it matters, the whine from the whipple is definitely louder.
#23
since you live in PA, I would check out CJponyparts.com They are located near Harrisburg. Myself and Torrence had our whipples installed there last year. They have very competetive pricing vs the vendors on this site.
BTW Torrence, I really hate you now:P Thanks for bragging about driving your car down the LIE...My **** car has been sitting in a garage since december
BTW Torrence, I really hate you now:P Thanks for bragging about driving your car down the LIE...My **** car has been sitting in a garage since december
#24
Lethal Performance & RWTD Performance both have great and low pricing on the whipple kits.
www.lethalperformance.com
www.rwtd.com
www.lethalperformance.com
www.rwtd.com
#25
since you live in PA, I would check out CJponyparts.com They are located near Harrisburg. Myself and Torrence had our whipples installed there last year. They have very competetive pricing vs the vendors on this site.
BTW Torrence, I really hate you now:P Thanks for bragging about driving your car down the LIE...My **** car has been sitting in a garage since december
BTW Torrence, I really hate you now:P Thanks for bragging about driving your car down the LIE...My **** car has been sitting in a garage since december
I'm just the messenger.....
CJ's is really good though. I'm actually headed there Saturday for some LCA's and upper 3rd link. Should be a fun drive.
Spring is just around the corner, we gotta go for a drive......
#26
Lethal Performance & RWTD Performance both have great and low pricing on the whipple kits.
www.lethalperformance.com
www.rwtd.com
www.lethalperformance.com
www.rwtd.com
#27
curious why you ruled out the Saleen though.
If it matters, the whine from the whipple is definitely louder.
i dont know, the kb just seems so quiet.
torrence, which kit from lethal performance did you buy?
#30
lol i just hate the way it looks! plus i've heard so many stories of having to cut through the firewall and lower the engine etc. imo it just looks too stock. the kb and whipples definitely look more aftermarket. i know its a pretty dumb reason to rule it out but thats what i'm goin with.
+1, you're right about that- the Magna is loud as hell.
#31
lol i just hate the way it looks! plus i've heard so many stories of having to cut through the firewall and lower the engine etc. imo it just looks too stock. the kb and whipples definitely look more aftermarket. i know its a pretty dumb reason to rule it out but thats what i'm goin with.
#32
+1, you're right about that- the Magna is loud as hell.
one thing though, the shop that i always go to get installs done (mph), has EXTENSIVE experience with kenne bell. thats pretty much what they put on all of the cars (or most) that come through there and they really know the ins and outs of kb. i dont think i've heard many people who have gotten whipples installed or tuned there at all. so is it a good idea to get a whipple even though the shop might not know a whole lot about it because they've really never had a ton of experience with them?
#33
torrence, which kit from lethal performance did you buy?[/quote]
I bought the HO kit with SCT tuner and tune from VMP tuning, but I got the car custom dyno tune at SGS performane in PA, after CJ's did the install.
Final numbers came out to be 456rwhp from an AUTO. They said they had it up to 477rwhp, but wanted to play it safe on the AUTO.
I bought the HO kit with SCT tuner and tune from VMP tuning, but I got the car custom dyno tune at SGS performane in PA, after CJ's did the install.
Final numbers came out to be 456rwhp from an AUTO. They said they had it up to 477rwhp, but wanted to play it safe on the AUTO.
#35
From a guy that's been running a 2.6L KB since Aug. 06, I'd have to say that I'd rather have a Whipple.
The simple fact that it comes with the GT500 pumps and spark plugs makes it the more "complete kit". It looks great in the engine compartment! It screams like nobodies business, and it's been proven to be a heavy hitter amongst the KB and the Saleen for the King of the Twin Screws.
As mentioned earlier, it has a better cooling/intercooler set up and just seems to be a badass SC even for those of us not looking to test the limits of their blowers.
Not to take anything away from my KB! It's badass in it's own right! But had the Whipple been out when I bought it, I would have went with the Whipple.
As far as the whine of an Eaton Termi, look no further than our very own Magnacharger. It's an Eaton blower in a Magnacharger body.
The simple fact that it comes with the GT500 pumps and spark plugs makes it the more "complete kit". It looks great in the engine compartment! It screams like nobodies business, and it's been proven to be a heavy hitter amongst the KB and the Saleen for the King of the Twin Screws.
As mentioned earlier, it has a better cooling/intercooler set up and just seems to be a badass SC even for those of us not looking to test the limits of their blowers.
Not to take anything away from my KB! It's badass in it's own right! But had the Whipple been out when I bought it, I would have went with the Whipple.
As far as the whine of an Eaton Termi, look no further than our very own Magnacharger. It's an Eaton blower in a Magnacharger body.
#39
Magnacharger is a roots blower, not a twin screw. Not nearly as efficient. I don't have any pics of a polished Whipple, but I'd like to add that Whipples are available in custom colors for the same price as the polished version....$300 extra.