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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/...sp?ProdID=1208

Looks like the whipple supercharger is out : D for the 05-06 mustang 4.6l 3v

2.3l twin screw supercharger.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Mussssst haveeee.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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WHat are the risks of running ur car at either 8 or 10psi of boost.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by gt5000@October 25, 2005, 3:43 PM
http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/...sp?ProdID=1208

Looks like the whipple supercharger is out : D for the 05-06 mustang 4.6l 3v

2.3l twin screw supercharger.
I believe this is "welcome to last month"...haha.
Click back to the home page and read this... http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/...p?articleID=68 unless there is any new news on the whipple since august 30, they aren't out yet. Sucks, cause I wanted one of these. Maybe by the time I am ready to buy one next year they will have their supply issues taken care of, or else its saleen/KB. But darn, does the whipple look nice, too!
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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That's an old product page. I just got an email from Dustin yesterday, here is his latest reply:

"At this point in time, we expect to have the system out around December and it will be a screw compressor. I can't go into much detail at this time, but it will certainly be worth the wait. We have 2 systems, one with stock injectors that produces 425rwhp @ 8psi and one that creates 515rwhp with 11-psi and larger injectors, as well as a few other upgrades. We will release more information in mid november."
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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It looks like KB and Whipple are on a collision course for one another! Both are approximating December production. Of course, both of them have been saying 4-6 weeks since February, so I'll take that with a grain of salt. As long as they are both out by 15 April, I'll pick the winner then. Until then, the Saleen is still my top pick. God I love competition!
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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Whoops, I do have a couple questions:

1) Isn't the Saleen a repackaged Whipple?
2) Will the whipple actually be sold through FRPP? If so, I would think it would be hard to beat price-wise.

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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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The Saleen supercharger is made in house. The whipple is a different design.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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"At this point in time, we expect to have the system out around December and it will be a screw compressor."
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Is a twin-screw the same thing as a screw compressor? I wonder if they are using a different supercharger than the one first advertised on the product page.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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Its still a twin screw.

Wouldn't the stock injectors need to be replaced for the 8 psi kit? Isn't that how it is on the vortech and procharger kits.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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That kit looks horrible, especially compared to the Saleen kit and the '03-'04 Cobra engine. No thank you... :notnice:
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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And what about the roush ?
I agree this one is ugly.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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don't hold your breath on the whipple stuff.The roush kit is a magnuson eaton type blower and their own brackets,intake etc.etc
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by RandyB@October 25, 2005, 7:55 PM
That kit looks horrible, especially compared to the Saleen kit and the '03-'04 Cobra engine. No thank you... :notnice:
You REALLY care that much about the looks? If I had a supercharger, I would worry less about how its gonna look (ON THE INSIDE OF THE HOOD, BTW) and start thinking about which vette im gonna run with...but that just may be me.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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IF that picture is at all representative of the final product, doesn't look any worse than the Kenne Bell...in fact it looks less cluttered than the KB. It's just your basic SC, old-school look. The Saleen is an exception, it has a unique upside-down design. I agree the Saleen looks great. Some prefer the more recognizable design of the KB/Whipple.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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I don't care what it looks like. I'm planning on stuffing it under a Shaker anyway.
I'd just like to see some numbers from somone other than the manufacturer. But I guess I'm going to have to be patient.
I still think the Saleen and the Whipple are the same blower (2.3L Lysholm) with the Saleen engineers coming up with the design for the long runners/inverted body.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by wsmatau@October 25, 2005, 4:54 PM
Whoops, I do have a couple questions:

1) Isn't the Saleen a repackaged Whipple?
2) Will the whipple actually be sold through FRPP? If so, I would think it would be hard to beat price-wise.


I think that whipple and KB get their compressors from the same supplier - thus explaining why both have nothing to offer as yet. Saleen gets theirs elsewhere. They all buy the compressers and add on their own mounting brackets, fuel delivery, pulleys, tuning, etc. etc. Can't wait to see the price. maybe they'll give us break for being so patient!!
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 12:41 AM
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Originally posted by RandyB@October 26, 2005, 11:55 AM
That kit looks horrible, especially compared to the Saleen kit and the '03-'04 Cobra engine. No thank you... :notnice:
are we lookin at the same Whipple charger?
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 05:57 AM
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I want something that looks factory, like it could have come with the car. It looks more custom with the polishing, but I also have problems with the packaging. I like how the Saleen blower kit utilizes the stock location for the throttle body, and doesn't contrast with the rest of the underhood stuff. It is just engineered better - more thought was put into it. It just looks like Whipple took the path of least resistance to get their blower in there. Of course that is just my opinion.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by nonsensez9@October 25, 2005, 11:52 PM
I think that whipple and KB get their compressors from the same supplier - thus explaining why both have nothing to offer as yet. Saleen gets theirs elsewhere. They all buy the compressers and add on their own mounting brackets, fuel delivery, pulleys, tuning, etc. etc. Can't wait to see the price. maybe they'll give us break for being so patient!!
KB uses Autorotor. Whipple uses Lysholm. There is a big explaination on KB's website about how Lysholm purchased controlling interest in Autorotor, how they decided not to absorb the company, and remain seperate entities.
KB compressors for the Mustang come in 1.7L, 2.2L. and a competition version 2.4L.
Whipple uses a 2.3L compressor. Which is what leads me to believe that Whipple/Ford/Saleen are all using the same base compressor.
Randy B, I do agree about the routing of the intake. Saleen engineers did a better job IMO, using the stock inlet point. If you really want a clean look/install, go with Saleen. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure it won't fit under a Shaker hood, for me.
The KB has two major deductions for me, which some of you may see as positive points.
1) It absolutely screams at WOT. This is cool at the track, but not on a daily driver. JMO.
2) I don't like the fact that KB left the intake on the left side of the engine bay. At least Whipple moved thier's to the right side. It almost looks like they took thier existing setup and "fixed" it to work with the s197 cars instead of re-engineering the whole product. Again, mostly personal preference.
Right now Saleen is at the top of my list, but I am definitely waiting for results on KB and Whipple. The episode of "Two Guys Garage" where a KB threw down 502RWHP/495RWTQ really made me pay attention. The whipple numbers are even stronger at 10 psi. And the big mystery is how long will these stock bottom ends hold together. The only drawback I really see to the Saleen is the fact that thier torque Numbers rarely match or exceed thier HP numbers. Which is odd given they are all twin-screw 'chargers and the Saleen has the long intake runners. If any of you tuner Gurus out there have an answer I'd love to know why.
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