Weak low-end - kind of annoying.
I have an 07 Mustang GT 5spd with about 2,500 miles. I recently installed a JLT II and Dougs 91 tune (Race). It definetly felt better, pulling strong to redline. Doug is great also - as we all know.
Anyways, I came from a 97 Z28 6spd (LT1) that only had a K&N cold air and Flowmaster exhaust. Yes, hard to compare torque of a 5.7 pushrod to a 4.6 mod motor, but none-the-less, I was able to depress the clutch and from any RPM from just off idle up from a role - light up the tires and make haste with a little throttle modulation. In this car, if I do the same thing it's kinf of like being in a Honda - BIG lag until about 3,000 RPM and THEN it's off.
I have heard that these motor's really wake up around 5,000 miles - is this true? What can I do to get this motor feeling a little more potent with not much cash outlay?
Anyways, I came from a 97 Z28 6spd (LT1) that only had a K&N cold air and Flowmaster exhaust. Yes, hard to compare torque of a 5.7 pushrod to a 4.6 mod motor, but none-the-less, I was able to depress the clutch and from any RPM from just off idle up from a role - light up the tires and make haste with a little throttle modulation. In this car, if I do the same thing it's kinf of like being in a Honda - BIG lag until about 3,000 RPM and THEN it's off.
I have heard that these motor's really wake up around 5,000 miles - is this true? What can I do to get this motor feeling a little more potent with not much cash outlay?
2007? Which rear end ratio 3.31 or 3.55
IF you have a 3.31 that could be part of the issue. The other factor is Ford's fine
Drive by wire throttle control.
Exhaust is always a good mod, x pipe too. and of course gears.
And if the BANK account (read: wife) permits.
SUPERCHARGER
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IF you have a 3.31 that could be part of the issue. The other factor is Ford's fine
Exhaust is always a good mod, x pipe too. and of course gears.
And if the BANK account (read: wife) permits.
SUPERCHARGER
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2007? Which rear end ratio 3.31 or 3.55
IF you have a 3.31 that could be part of the issue. The other factor is Ford's fine
Drive by wire throttle control.
Exhaust is always a good mod, x pipe too. and of course gears.
And if the BANK account (read: wife) permits.
SUPERCHARGER
<-------------------
IF you have a 3.31 that could be part of the issue. The other factor is Ford's fine
Exhaust is always a good mod, x pipe too. and of course gears.
And if the BANK account (read: wife) permits.
SUPERCHARGER
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I felt the same way after this replaced my 5.0 Cobra. I love the torque. But I also realize that this car as a whole is head and shoulders above my old Cobra...so it's worth the trade-off.
However I just view this as an in-between until they come out with a Boss/Mach variant with a bigger engine than the 4.6!
However I just view this as an in-between until they come out with a Boss/Mach variant with a bigger engine than the 4.6!
As I mentioned, I have Dougs Race 91 tune and JLT II intake installed right now. I'm wondering how much long tube headers would do for me?
If I was graced with the wonderful 6spd tranny that I had in my Z28 with a .50 6th gear I would do 4.10s, but not in this car. Even with the 3.55s I sometimes feel like I need to shift into an imaginary 6th gear when on the highway.
As I mentioned, I have Dougs Race 91 tune and JLT II intake installed right now. I'm wondering how much long tube headers would do for me?
As I mentioned, I have Dougs Race 91 tune and JLT II intake installed right now. I'm wondering how much long tube headers would do for me?
RPM x 4.10 / 3.55 = 3000
3000 x 3.55 = RPM x 4.10
10650 = RPM x 4.10
10650 / 4.10 = RPM
RPM at 85 MPH with 3.55's = 2597.
3000 - 2597 = 403
What did I miss?
.68 5th gear:
http://www.csgnetwork.com/multirpmcalc.html
GOTO:
Transmission Final Gear Ratio Manual Entry
235/50R18 = 27.3" tire
85MPH 3.55's 5th gear: 2525
85MPH 3.73's 5th gear: 2653
85MPH 4.10's 5th gear: 2917
392 RPM difference!! Not a big deal for the big improvement imo. You can also see that the 3.73 is a waste of money if you have 3.55's on your manual. Provides little increase in mechanical advantage.
http://www.csgnetwork.com/multirpmcalc.html
GOTO:
Transmission Final Gear Ratio Manual Entry
235/50R18 = 27.3" tire
85MPH 3.55's 5th gear: 2525
85MPH 3.73's 5th gear: 2653
85MPH 4.10's 5th gear: 2917
392 RPM difference!! Not a big deal for the big improvement imo. You can also see that the 3.73 is a waste of money if you have 3.55's on your manual. Provides little increase in mechanical advantage.
Here's the spreadsheet I use.
You can tweak the gear ratios, RAR, and tire rev/mile to see its effects. I never use the tire diameter calculated from the size, instead I use the rev/mile spec from the tire manufacturers. I am assuming the OEM Pirelli 235/55R17s for the TR-3650 (no interest in the 18" combos).
You can tweak the gear ratios, RAR, and tire rev/mile to see its effects. I never use the tire diameter calculated from the size, instead I use the rev/mile spec from the tire manufacturers. I am assuming the OEM Pirelli 235/55R17s for the TR-3650 (no interest in the 18" combos).
Anyways, I came from a 97 Z28 6spd (LT1) that only had a K&N cold air and Flowmaster exhaust. Yes, hard to compare torque of a 5.7 pushrod to a 4.6 mod motor, but none-the-less, I was able to depress the clutch and from any RPM from just off idle up from a role - light up the tires and make haste with a little throttle modulation.
In this car, if I do the same thing it's kind of like being in a Honda - BIG lag until about 3,000 RPM and THEN it's off.
In this car, if I do the same thing it's kind of like being in a Honda - BIG lag until about 3,000 RPM and THEN it's off.
It has a rated 285 HP (flywheel)@ 5800 RPM and 325 ft-lbs of torque @ 2400RPM. 2400 is LOW for a torque curve and it's ability to light up the tires proves this. From a stop--even with an automatic, the wide tires cannot hold the torque and muscle, smoking them at will. You will even break loose the tires at 25MPH when you stomp on the gas pedal!
In comparison, our GT's put out 300 HP at 5750 PRM and 320 ft-lbs of torque at 4500 RPM.
BTW, if you want to get rid of the 'Honda feeling' and shred the rubber off your tires, all it takes is a little finesse of the clutch pedal. Like this!



