One of the mods I'm looking at is to upgrade the suspension. I'm curious of any reviews/slalom figures/etc of the Eibach Pro-System-Plus. I've got some info on the Saleen kit from the performance numbers I've seen on the Saleen cars, but have seen nothing on the Eibach system. I'm also curious how the Eibach Pro-System-Plus would effect the car's ride.

 

Me too...

 

september's issue of Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords has a write up on the new Saleen, had good things to say about the suspension set up, even on busted up New Jersey roads........

 

Yup saw that and have read a few other reviews of the Saleens... What I'm really looking for is info on the Eibach full suspension and how it compares to the Saleen... since it's cheaper with more features in the kit.

Everyone seems to be installing Eibach springs but nobody seems to be upgrading the overall suspension.

 

I have Eibach Pro's with a BMR adjustable panhard rod. The ride is firmer, but not harsh in any way. No complaints on any aspect of it.

 

I can't add any hard data, other than to say I had the Steeda Comp springs installed when I had the strut bearings done last week and I can barely tell I had them changed, other than noticing that the car is flatter and a bit firmer on the curves. To me, this is a GOOD thing, as I was really worried about scraping on speed bumps and steep drives. I alwasy take it easy on those, so I've been ok.

Now, if you mean other "upgrades", I would be interested in hearing which you are doing and why...

Mike Elia
05 GT lime

 

I'm looking at possibly doing the full Eibach Pro-System-Plus. The system contains the sport springs, secondary springs, dampers, and anti-roll bars (ie front and rear sway bars). Why is pretty obvious, to improve handling. The web page for the kit is here:
http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe/00415...091219800032556

 

:nod me too... I have been keeping my eye on this kit but have yet to take the plunge without more knowledge... do you need a panhard bar with this kit? How does it feel on the road? am I gonna bottom out on speed bumps? Does it bounce?

 

I was actually thinking about getting the full Saleen suspension, but as well, I would like to see some track results. These cars already handle very well, but that can always be improved...

IRS

[note: I'm kidding... I don't care about IRS, I do care about corners though ]

 

Roughly what is the Eibach pro system plus running? No prices on the website

 

can be had for about 250.00 shipped

 

Thats not for the whole kit... unless you have a serious discount...

 

Its for the pro kit, 4 springs thats it...maybe I misunderstood you, sorry

 

We're talking about the Pro System Plus. It includes the springs, dampers, and sway bars. See the link in my post a few messages above.

As for pricing it's listed as $902 at tirerack.com. Coupe kit is listed as available 8/19 convertible kit is listed as backordered.

 

There have been a bunch of reviews on the Saleen Mustangs with the upgraded suspensions in them. Taking into consideration the 20" wheels they should give you an idea of the performance. I think the slalom on them was 69 or 70+ MPH.

 

no one has mentioned Roush's suspension kit. Front & back sway bars, shocks & struts, and there springs. Haven't seen any write ups on it yet - but my neighbor's 04 is very nice - would expect as much for th 05. That's the direction I am heading!

 

The Roush kit looks nice but is a little pricey at $1500, not to mention Roush doesn't bother to give ANY information on their site. They don't even say how much the springs lower the car. There's also no information on warranty for the components as opposed to Eibach's million mile warranty.

That's basically why I haven't considered the Roush kit.

 

Would like to keep an eye on this myself too. Has anyone looked into the difference in specification between the stock suspension and these third-party kits. I was looking into the Saleen version, as the only one I had seen, but can't seem to find anything. Might have to try and get a ride in someones Saleen to compare my 05 GT.

Any other full kits out there??

 

I have the Eibac Sport Springs, unless you plan to road race your Mustang, I would try the Sport Springs and work to the complete Eibac Package as you feel the need. ESP is about $259 alone from the Tire Rack.

1 BAD 05

 

Hi grendel,

First Eibach's struts and dampers are going to be conventional oil shocks and are not adjustable. This is stupid, you need to adjust the valving even for their own spring kits as no two cars or drivers are alike. The Eibach struts and dampers are also not gas charged to prevent the shock oil from foaming and messing up the vavle rates. This is cheap and sucks as far as performanc is concerned. The Saleen kit is just as bad, not adjustable and not gas charged this is cheap and poor performing under pressure.

I installed a set of Eibach ProKit springs along with Steeda Adjustable Panhard Bar, Steeda H.D. Panhard Bar Brace and Steeda G-Trac Brace shortly after I bought my '05 GT and was not real happy about the Eibach kit's spring rate when used with the stock GT struts and dampers. The Eibach ProKit springs are way too stiff for the stock Ford valving and the rear of the car is bouncey over certain bumps and downright dangerous when pushing hard in the corners with the wrong frequency of bumps. After many months of waiting and calling Eibach, Steeda, Tokico, Koni, Bilstein, Moton and KW I was about to revert back to the stock Ford springs. But somehow I kept hanging on and a few weeks ago Steeda said that they had signed off on the valving for the new Tokico D spec struts and dampers for the '05 GT's and that they would become available very shortly. I called Tokico and they confirmed that there were a very few sets available so I called my friend Chris at JBA and asked him to order a set for me. I got them the next day and put them on Monday night.

The funny thing I found when I opened the box was that the box was marked "sample" inside. This had me concerned but I called Tokico directly and they said that these were early production units but that they were built to production specs and carefully assembled and triple checked for engineering. So I guss they are OK.

I managed to find a few hours to install the new toys Monday night. I have a faily complete set of tools in the garage along with shop air and air tools but actually anyone can install these in their garage with hand toos if you have or can borrow a spring compressor. It took me about 4 hours (including "testing"), working alone in the garage on the floor no lift. I did the rears first as that is the end with the worst valving match from the stock Ford dampers for the Eibach ProKit springs I had previously installed. I installed them and test drove them retainging the stock Ford struts, what a huge difference in control!

I live near the Pasadena freeway and it's my official test track! This freeway is notorious for it's tight, very narrow 3 lanes lots of sharp turns, many that are blind. This would not be so bad but for the fact that most of the on ramps and off ramps are literally 10 MPH 90 degree turns to get on or off! Lots of fun IMO though, I grew up driving this freeway as a testing grounds for suspension, brake and engine improvements I made to my cars and motorcycles over the years. Anyway, after a 10 miutes test drive I came back and installed the front struts and off I went for another test drive. Originally I had the rear dampers set to the recomended 5 turns down from fully stiff. This is WAY too soft for the Eibach ProKit springs, the ride was better than stock but still too soft. So I set the rears to 3 turns out front and rear and this worked very well. But I think that for harder driving the front and rear needs 2 turns out from full hard and for daily driving 3F/3R is an excellent setup with the Eibach SpotKit springs.

The basic combination of the Steeda chassis braces and adjustable Panhard bar and brace along with the Eibach ProKit springs and Tokico sturts and dampers is impressive and the car is very stable now. In hard turns the car is much more predictable. Further testing to be done after I get it aligned tomorrow or the next day.

Hope this helps!