I've got the other one with the open box and just the cover piece over the filter.

 

You definitely have the Saleen Ultimate 95mm MAF cold air intake which has an open airbox bottom with a conical air filter.. This was actually my first choice, however none of them could be found anywhere until they became available through saleencars84 within just the past year.. So I settled for the Saleen 98mm airbox lid with hard plastic tube instead..

 

It has a different MAF sensor. I believe it's from the Lightning. I had to splice it in. All this was done so many years ago. Like early 2009 I think.

 

I definitely noticed your MAF sensor.. They came with an upgraded MAF sensor option for supporting higher HP applications and also with non-upgraded sensor options that allow re-using the stock drop in sensors..
Looks like you got yours from Brenspeed, as they used to carry them in stock until Saleen discontinued production.. I noticed that saleencars84 has only 1 left in stock with the non-MAF sensor upgrade option and I'm debating as to whether or not I should place an order.. As I don't know if I would see a noticeable difference in airflow or performance over the Saleen airbox I have now

 

Here's what I came up with after some road tuning. It flows just a bit more air than the Steeda 90mm CAI, but with more stable IAT's. I didn't realize that the Pypes Catless X-Pipe I had was worth about 3-4 #/min of extra flow. I couldn't figure out why all of the intake setups I tried were basically pegged at 31-32 #/min until I remembered that the last time I did some logging was at the track with the catless X-Pipe. I have the stock cats back on now.

I also found that the following data regarding IAT over ambient at freeway speeds (heat soak from the track will raise these values):

Saleen 98mm + stock lower: +6F
Saleen 98mm + cut lower (IAW Saleen/Edelbrock instructions): +9F
Steeda 90mm CAI: +12F

I did not see any noticeable increase in flow with the cut lower box, and in fact, the recorded air load was a bit lower with the cut lower box. My guess is that the flow velocity or something was negatively impacted by the larger opening. On a forced induction application, this may or may not be a big deal - but I know on my EcoBoost SHO, the tiny airbox (developed for the N/A 3.5L Edge) was good enough to get me into the low 12s and the folks that drilled holes/cut it open didn't see any gains and saw some reduction in performance.

 

Did you run into clearance issues with the hard plastic intake tube ? After reading this thread, I'm seriously thinking about getting this and a tune.

 

It clears fine, much better than the Steeda elbow. I found the Steeda CAI flowed the same on my n/a 3v and that the cats were the restriction. But this box runs a lot cooler.

I plotted RPM vs airflow and the Saleen with the cut lower box flowed less than the intact lower box. My guess is that the cut lower box messed with the pressure/velocity of the air flow. It may work well for the blown applications that Saleen used this on, but for the N/A engines, keep the stock lower box intact with the snorkle attached.

 

Just realize your going to have to get a custom dyno tune to run the Saleen intake.. As there are no e-mail tunes for N/A applications, unless you know how to tune yourself.. Here's an image of my Saleen VI blower with the Saleen airbox cover and hard plastic intake tube which is a direct replacement for the Saleen stock rubber inlet tube.. Therefore there are no clearance issues whatsoever..

 

Charlie, how's the Saleen intake been working out ? Hopefully you found a solution to the MAF transfer function issues that you were having..


-Rocky

 

Rocky,
I ended up making my own transfer function!

See post #25 above:
https://themustangsource.com/forums/...7/#post7012885

That should work for N/A applications, although I'm not quite sure why it wouldn't work for a supercharged application assuming you are targeting 14.08 stoich. I also have no clue how Saleen came up with the transfer function they were sending out, it was WAY too rich.

If you have a tuner package (HPTuners, SCT Pro Racer Package) you can just copy/paste that into the airflow/voltage table. I recommend HPTuners though, it blows away SCT for anything Ford related that is recent. VCM Scanner is very powerful and fast as it runs on my 2010 single core Atom netbook, whereas SCT Livelink is still sluggish on a modern 2016 Core i7 laptop running 16GB RAM. All of the vendors wanted to sell me a tune/package just to run the Saleen intake.

 

Charlie, I'm really very pleased that everything worked out well, otherwise I would've really felt like sh*t for recommending the Saleen 98mm airbox cover.. Unfortunately I do not have tuner packages, as I don't know the first thing nor have a clue as to how to go about tuning my own car, although I wish that I did lol. Anyhow I totally agree and don't see any reason why the transfer function you developed wouldn't work for both N/A and S/C applications, as your not making any changes to the size of the MAF housing.. Therefore the difference between S/C and N/A shouldn't even be a factor as far as the transfer function itself is concerned

As for Saleen, the only logical explanation I can come up for their MAF transfer function being way too rich, is their S/C calibrations are definitely on the conservative side mostly for warranty purposes on their S/C kits..
It also figures that all those vendors wanted to sell you a tune package just to run the Saleen intake, but couldn't even bother to send you an e-mail file for the transfer function after you had already purchased the Saleen intake knowing full well that your car is N/A and not S/C.. IMHO what they did was totally unacceptable and a rotten way to treat a valued customer to say the very least

 

HPTuners is awesome if you love tinkering. I tuned my 2014 SHO myself (not much help in the Ford tuning community for EcoBoost) and ran 12.4 @ 110.9 and found out it can run neck and neck with the new Scat Pack/392 Dodge Chargers. With better tires and cooler air, the SHO should be able to run 12.1-12.2 but that is already pretty much maxing out the stock hardware as it is now. I was using SCT Pro Racer for my 07 GT from 2007 up until recently when I switched to HPTuners.

 

I have the C&L Racer intake. I had thought about taking it off since I started using the Torque app with an OBD bluetooth dongle. My intake temp was over 100f higher than ambient at idle and about 50f higher at speed. But since I modded the hood of the car I've noticed that once the car gets moving the intake and ambient temperatures are basically the same.

The trick is to get the heat out of the engine bay instead of looking for cold air to suck in. The GT500 vent sucks out the hot air at speed forcing cold air into the engine bay.


The car is currently making 310HP and 315 Torque at the wheels with only the intake and tune. Since I already spent the money I think I'll keep it as it is, but I agree, if your car is basically stock just get a tune and leave the intake alone.

This is the car at the track with the modded oem hood: