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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 09:37 PM
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SS brake lines installed

Got these Russell SS lines + brackets, a direct bolt in from JEGS for $120 shipped and installed them. I needed to bleed my brakes, the fluid was bladder infection brown.







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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Embalmer
Got these Russell SS lines + brackets, a direct bolt in from JEGS for $120 shipped and installed them. I needed to bleed my brakes, the fluid was bladder infection brown.
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Yikes. I'd hate to hear how you know what that color looks like.
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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 09:43 PM
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How do they feel now?
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Old Mar 31, 2011 | 04:51 AM
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The Russel Performance Brake Lines look like they are a pretty good quality.
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Old Mar 31, 2011 | 05:25 AM
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can you tell the difference at all? Old to new?
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Old Mar 31, 2011 | 05:37 AM
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I put the Steeda ones on my car several years ago and the pedal feels firmer since they don't expand with the pressure like the OEM ones do ...
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Old Mar 31, 2011 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Embalmer
Got these Russell SS lines + brackets, a direct bolt in from JEGS for $120 shipped and installed them. I needed to bleed my brakes, the fluid was bladder infection brown.
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Yikes. I'd hate to hear how you know what that color looks like.
Given his screen name, I think the answer is unfortunately quite obvious...


I have the StopTech ones all around, and they do result in a firmer pedal. More importantly they're less susceptible to heat, and with the sliding back and forth I have to do to swap rotors out, they shouldn't wear as quickly either.
I'd not heard of the Russell brand before, though.
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Old Mar 31, 2011 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Antigini-GT/CS
How do they feel now?
Originally Posted by Scott2
The Russel Performance Brake Lines look like they are a pretty good quality.
Originally Posted by Glenn
can you tell the difference at all? Old to new?
Originally Posted by CO_VaporGT_09
Given his screen name, I think the answer is unfortunately quite obvious...


I have the StopTech ones all around, and they do result in a firmer pedal. More importantly they're less susceptible to heat, and with the sliding back and forth I have to do to swap rotors out, they shouldn't wear as quickly either.
I'd not heard of the Russell brand before, though.
These lines are great quality, with the OEM style brackets they are truly bolt in and bleed them. I had to reuse the banjo bolts, but they came with new crush washers.

I will report back after a cruise to Chicago this weekend. I haven't driven the car since I put them on.

And, because of my job I have seen numerous unspeakable things, the least of which is urine coming from an infected bladder.
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Old Mar 31, 2011 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CO_VaporGT_09
Given his screen name, I think the answer is unfortunately quite obvious...


I have the StopTech ones all around, and they do result in a firmer pedal. More importantly they're less susceptible to heat, and with the sliding back and forth I have to do to swap rotors out, they shouldn't wear as quickly either.
I'd not heard of the Russell brand before, though.
Russell primarily has been known for AN fittings/braided lines and is owned by Edelbrock.

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Old Mar 31, 2011 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by CO_VaporGT_09
Given his screen name, I think the answer is unfortunately quite obvious...


I have the StopTech ones all around, and they do result in a firmer pedal. More importantly they're less susceptible to heat, and with the sliding back and forth I have to do to swap rotors out, they shouldn't wear as quickly either.
I'd not heard of the Russell brand before, though.
Originally Posted by Doogie
Russell primarly has been known for AN fittings and braided lines, and is owned by Edelbrock.
Russell also markets Speed Bleeders, I just installed new brakes and I picked up Russell # 639560 for my OEM rear calipers and # 639580 for the Baer caliper fronts.
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Old Mar 31, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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I was glad to see these Russell stainless lines come out as they are much more reasonable than some of the other sets that have the OEM mounting brackets.
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Old Mar 31, 2011 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott2
Russell also markets Speed Bleeders, I just installed new brakes and I picked up Russell # 639560 for my OEM rear calipers and # 639580 for the Baer caliper fronts.
Oh, I have SpeedBleeders all around, didn't realize it's the same company.



I'm not familiar with those part numbers, though, mine were SB1010S:

http://www.soloperformance.com/Speed...on_p_1266.html

http://www.speedbleeder.com/automobile_applications.htm

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Old Mar 31, 2011 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CO_VaporGT_09
Oh, I have SpeedBleeders all around, didn't realize it's the same company.

I'm not familiar with those part numbers, though, mine were SB1010S:
Not sure if SpeedBleeders are the same as Russell, but I am using that same p/n on my Brembos (SB1010S).
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Old Mar 31, 2011 | 07:16 PM
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The specs on Russell 639560 for the OEM caliper are: Thread 10mm x 1.0, overall length 35mm and the specs for Russell 639580 for the Baer calipers are: Thread 10mm x 1.5, overall length 30mm.
Looks like Russell 639560 = Speed Bleeder SB1010S, as both are 10mm X 1.0 and Russell 639560 = Speed Bleeder SB1015 as both are 10mm X 1.5
http://russellperformance.com/mc/speed/domestic.shtml
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Old Mar 31, 2011 | 09:37 PM
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Oh! I was thinking SpeedBleeder was a brand name, apparently not.
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Old Apr 1, 2011 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CO_VaporGT_09
Oh! I was thinking SpeedBleeder was a brand name, apparently not.
I think you are right, from the Speed Bleeder web site - "Speed Bleeder" is a registered trademark of Speed Bleeder Products, Inc and cannot be used unless granted permission in writing from Speed Bleeder Products, Inc.
Looks like Edlebrock/Russell has U.S. Patents on the technology they use, which I assume means they manufacture their own bleeders. Russell does not use the term “Speed Bleeder” as all their material says “Speed Bleeders”. I have no idea in legal terms if they are in trademark infringement, or if in fact they have been granted permission from Speed Bleeder Products Inc.

For us I guess it means we have at least two sources that can make brake bleeding a one person task.
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Old Apr 2, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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OK maybe this is a stupid question but the Speed Bleeders all say they are truly a one person operation. How can you "observe bubble free fluid" if you are depressing the brake pedal?

Also are the Russell SS lines for $120 a set of 4?
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Fords4Ever
OK maybe this is a stupid question but the Speed Bleeders all say they are truly a one person operation. How can you "observe bubble free fluid" if you are depressing the brake pedal?
If you have a catch can attached to it

http://store.motiveproducts.com/pair...-1820-p22.aspx


you depress the brake pedal, get out, look at the tube for bubbles. The SpeedBleeder essentially works as a one way valve, not allowing any pull-back from that line, so won't contaminate the caliper with air.
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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I just used a length of clear hose fed into an empty brake fluid bottle, which allows you do the the same thing as Josh mentioned for about $3. It normally takes only a couple full pedal pumps before the lines are showing no bubbles.

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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Doogie
I just used a length of clear hose fed into an empty brake fluid bottle, which allows you do the the same thing as Josh mentioned for about $3. It normally takes only a couple full pedal pumps before the lines are showing no bubbles.
Cheaping out! Just kidding...

I tried that with apparently crappy tubing (musta been $2?) and had it make a mess, so got the bottles above. They'd better last 10 times as long as yours!
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