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I'm going to put on a Pypes H pipe someday soon and I was wondering if I should attempt to install shorty headers. Is it a tough install? I'm asking because I will already have the stock x pipe off and will only have to unbolt the headers from the block. Will I have to lift the engine like a LT install? That is a dealbreaker for me, no unbolting from the motor mounts. Are all header bolts accessable?

I know that LT's offer much more power but I will happy with 10 HP from shorty's and be able to run a legal exhaust if I must replace the stock x pipe. Also, shorty's are cheaper and if I can do it myself then it just might be worth it. THANKS!!!

tom281

You will need to lift the motor, unbolting it from the motor mounts and raising it with a jack. You also will need to unbolt the steering shaft. This is to intall Ford Racing shorties..... if you search alittle, I made a post about the install a couple of months ago. I don't recall the title off-hand.

blkstang06

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?t=61484 Heres my thread when I installed mine! shorties !

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Thanks mates!

Sonic Thunder

Don't know about lifting the motor, I did not have to do it. As a matter of fact, I removed the battery box and was able to install the pass. side header from the top.

GRAYPNY

Do you really get 10 HP out of shorty's? I thought it was more of a cosmetic mod!

tom281

Never had it dyno'ed afterwards...... I did mine mainly for cosmetic- guess which one is stock and which is FRPP ceramic!

blkstang06

Mustang Monthly did a article last year on BBK shortie headers! They installed a set on there 2005 test car and dynoed before and after, 8-10 HP top end increase but 12-15 in the lower RPM range 1800 to 4500 where most of your real world driving is done !......

habu

A 12-15HP increase is pretty good, even if it's slightly lower than that. Would they change the exhaust note on a catted > X-Pipe > FRPP Stingers setup ?

GRAYPNY

If I really thought that I would get 10-12 HP I would do it. I'm trying not to do anything to my car that would not let it pass smog.

blkstang06

Rich, I've never dynoed my car before or after any of my mods but after installing the Steeda Shorties I did notice more torque in the lower RPM range. The Steeda's and FRPP'S are unequal length shorties verses BBK and JBA witch are equal length shortie headers! in all truth I think after CAI and reflashing most bolt on mods show minimal HP - Torque increases, its the accumulated effect of these mods working together that really show HP and Torque gains!...

blkstang06

My shortie's seemed to lower my exhaust note some ! but most people claim no noticeable change in sound!

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Wow this could change everything. Did the drivers side go on easily? Can you tell me more about how the install went? Thanks.

I think 10 HP is decient for the price, plus it looks good, doesn't sound insanly loud and can pass smog (i believe). Hope the equal length is a good fit for a H pipe!

sound wave

10 hp? 5.0 magazine did a shorty comparo a while back the most they got iirc was 5 rwhp from the jba equals (?) the others got like 3 or 4 rwhp.

Sonic Thunder

Driver side going on was something less than desirable, just bloodied a couple of knuckles and taught the kids some new words.

blkstang06

My figures I stated were from Mustang Monthly, they also posted the dyno graphs from before and after each run on the BBK install! both Mags are owned by Prime Media !........when your talking about 4 or 5 HP dynos can very that much and depending atmospheric conditions and who has set up the run!

blkstang06

Driver side went on easer for me than the passenger side.......No mod job is complete without some skinned knuckles and profanity.......

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Do you have to take the steering linkage apart to get the drivers side shorty on?

Sonic Thunder

yes, pulled it apart to get access, don't worry though. The linkage is real easy to take apart and reinstall, as in a 10 minute job with common tools.

blkstang06

Also make sure your wheels are straight, before dropping the steering shaft. you may even want make orientation marks to make sure everything lines back up correctly.. but it is easy.......