it seemes I've outgrown my motor
it seemes I've outgrown my motor
I have been talking over the past week with my now current engine builder about a new motor for my car. Some say i got bored and need more power and durability...We have gone back and forth with numerous ideas and we have come to a conclusion of what it should be built like. I'm is looking for approximately 700Hp. I think this should accomodate that and then some. Durability shouldn't be a problem since My builder has never had one of his engines blown up and he knows where I lives so if i do break it or don't maintain this motor in meticulous condition, He will come to NY and kick my ***....
So, at the beginning of April, The build process begins. Below is a parts list of what is going in the motor. After completing the longblock, the KB will be set back on top of it and all the sensors/wiring, etc. attached and it will be ready to go.
This thread will be a journal of the build. I will post everything I can, including pics, during the build and then I will continue it with the final assembly and installation and dyno/track results. Final Assembly will be done at Piedmont Modular Performance, PMP for short.
To start with, these are the major parts.....
Parts Selection (Supplied By Larry)
Teksid Block(Used)
Cobra Steel Crankshaft(Used)
Manley H-Beam Connecting Rods Part # 14042-8R
Ross Forged 2618 Alloy -16cc Dish Pistons Part # 99806
Ross Piston Rings (Included)
Ross Piston Wrist Pins (Included)
ARP Rod Bolts(Included)
Ross Piston Coating (Thermal Barrier Ceramic/Hard Skirt Coating) Part # EPC104
Ford Stock 4.6L 3V Oil Pump(New)
Main Bearings(See Note #1)
Rod Bearings(See Note #1)
ARP Main Cap Stud Kit Part # 256-5802
ARP Head Stud Kit Part # 156-4201
Complete Engine Gasket/Seal Set(See Note #2)
Parts Selection (Supplied by Ron)
Livernois Stage 3 Heads (Complete)
CompCams Stage 2 Camshafts
Camshaft Bearings
Windage Tray(See Note #3)
Oil Pickup(See Note #3)
Oil Pan(See Note #3)
Oil Pan Gasket(See Note #3)
Oil Pan Bolts(See Note #3)
Timing Chains, Gears, Phasers, Sensors, etc.
Labor(Supplied by Larry)
Block Cleaning
Block Magnaflux
Block Boring /Honing
Block Line Boring
Crankshaft Sonic Tested
Crankshaft Turned/Polished
Rotating Assembly Balanced
Longblock Assembly
__________________________________________________ ____________________
Notes:
#1 Bearings will be Clevite 77 if available. If not available, then I will use either Seal-Power or Ford
#2 Fel-Pro Gaskets/Seal will be used if available, otherwise, Seal-Pro will be used
3. These items must be provided to complete the build and to be able to seal the bottom end of the motor from contaminents during shipping.
So, at the beginning of April, The build process begins. Below is a parts list of what is going in the motor. After completing the longblock, the KB will be set back on top of it and all the sensors/wiring, etc. attached and it will be ready to go.
This thread will be a journal of the build. I will post everything I can, including pics, during the build and then I will continue it with the final assembly and installation and dyno/track results. Final Assembly will be done at Piedmont Modular Performance, PMP for short.
To start with, these are the major parts.....
Parts Selection (Supplied By Larry)
Teksid Block(Used)
Cobra Steel Crankshaft(Used)
Manley H-Beam Connecting Rods Part # 14042-8R
Ross Forged 2618 Alloy -16cc Dish Pistons Part # 99806
Ross Piston Rings (Included)
Ross Piston Wrist Pins (Included)
ARP Rod Bolts(Included)
Ross Piston Coating (Thermal Barrier Ceramic/Hard Skirt Coating) Part # EPC104
Ford Stock 4.6L 3V Oil Pump(New)
Main Bearings(See Note #1)
Rod Bearings(See Note #1)
ARP Main Cap Stud Kit Part # 256-5802
ARP Head Stud Kit Part # 156-4201
Complete Engine Gasket/Seal Set(See Note #2)
Parts Selection (Supplied by Ron)
Livernois Stage 3 Heads (Complete)
CompCams Stage 2 Camshafts
Camshaft Bearings
Windage Tray(See Note #3)
Oil Pickup(See Note #3)
Oil Pan(See Note #3)
Oil Pan Gasket(See Note #3)
Oil Pan Bolts(See Note #3)
Timing Chains, Gears, Phasers, Sensors, etc.
Labor(Supplied by Larry)
Block Cleaning
Block Magnaflux
Block Boring /Honing
Block Line Boring
Crankshaft Sonic Tested
Crankshaft Turned/Polished
Rotating Assembly Balanced
Longblock Assembly
__________________________________________________ ____________________
Notes:
#1 Bearings will be Clevite 77 if available. If not available, then I will use either Seal-Power or Ford
#2 Fel-Pro Gaskets/Seal will be used if available, otherwise, Seal-Pro will be used
3. These items must be provided to complete the build and to be able to seal the bottom end of the motor from contaminents during shipping.
i forgot to add these things earlier but these will be some of the supporting mods to the motor
SCT Big Air 90MM MAF
(BA2400)
Sieman Deka 60 LB. Injectors
Sieman Deka Injector Harness
GT500 Throttle Body
(BA2400)
Sieman Deka 60 LB. Injectors
Sieman Deka Injector Harness
GT500 Throttle Body
MMR Billet Motor Mount Adapter Plate
8 Bolt 26 Spline Flywheel
Spec Stage 3+ Clutch
26 Spline Input Shaft
Shim/Gaskets for Tranny
Moroso 4.6L Deep Sump Oil Pan (7 Quart) (Aluminum)
8 Bolt 26 Spline Flywheel
Spec Stage 3+ Clutch
26 Spline Input Shaft
Shim/Gaskets for Tranny
Moroso 4.6L Deep Sump Oil Pan (7 Quart) (Aluminum)
Ron... while you're at it, ditch the tranny and get a 4R70W with a transbrake!!
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I have been talking over the past week with my now current engine builder about a new motor for my car. Some say i got bored and need more power and durability...We have gone back and forth with numerous ideas and we have come to a conclusion of what it should be built like. I'm is looking for approximately 700Hp. I think this should accomodate that and then some. Durability shouldn't be a problem since My builder has never had one of his engines blown up and he knows where I lives so if i do break it or don't maintain this motor in meticulous condition, He will come to NY and kick my ***....
So, at the beginning of April, The build process begins. Below is a parts list of what is going in the motor. After completing the longblock, the KB will be set back on top of it and all the sensors/wiring, etc. attached and it will be ready to go.
This thread will be a journal of the build. I will post everything I can, including pics, during the build and then I will continue it with the final assembly and installation and dyno/track results. Final Assembly will be done at Piedmont Modular Performance, PMP for short.
To start with, these are the major parts.....
Parts Selection (Supplied By Larry)
Teksid Block(Used)
Cobra Steel Crankshaft(Used)
Manley H-Beam Connecting Rods Part # 14042-8R
Ross Forged 2618 Alloy -16cc Dish Pistons Part # 99806
Ross Piston Rings (Included)
Ross Piston Wrist Pins (Included)
ARP Rod Bolts(Included)
Ross Piston Coating (Thermal Barrier Ceramic/Hard Skirt Coating) Part # EPC104
Ford Stock 4.6L 3V Oil Pump(New)
Main Bearings(See Note #1)
Rod Bearings(See Note #1)
ARP Main Cap Stud Kit Part # 256-5802
ARP Head Stud Kit Part # 156-4201
Complete Engine Gasket/Seal Set(See Note #2)
Parts Selection (Supplied by Ron)
Livernois Stage 3 Heads (Complete)
CompCams Stage 2 Camshafts
Camshaft Bearings
Windage Tray(See Note #3)
Oil Pickup(See Note #3)
Oil Pan(See Note #3)
Oil Pan Gasket(See Note #3)
Oil Pan Bolts(See Note #3)
Timing Chains, Gears, Phasers, Sensors, etc.
Labor(Supplied by Larry)
Block Cleaning
Block Magnaflux
Block Boring /Honing
Block Line Boring
Crankshaft Sonic Tested
Crankshaft Turned/Polished
Rotating Assembly Balanced
Longblock Assembly
__________________________________________________ ____________________
Notes:
#1 Bearings will be Clevite 77 if available. If not available, then I will use either Seal-Power or Ford
#2 Fel-Pro Gaskets/Seal will be used if available, otherwise, Seal-Pro will be used
3. These items must be provided to complete the build and to be able to seal the bottom end of the motor from contaminents during shipping.
So, at the beginning of April, The build process begins. Below is a parts list of what is going in the motor. After completing the longblock, the KB will be set back on top of it and all the sensors/wiring, etc. attached and it will be ready to go.
This thread will be a journal of the build. I will post everything I can, including pics, during the build and then I will continue it with the final assembly and installation and dyno/track results. Final Assembly will be done at Piedmont Modular Performance, PMP for short.
To start with, these are the major parts.....
Parts Selection (Supplied By Larry)
Teksid Block(Used)
Cobra Steel Crankshaft(Used)
Manley H-Beam Connecting Rods Part # 14042-8R
Ross Forged 2618 Alloy -16cc Dish Pistons Part # 99806
Ross Piston Rings (Included)
Ross Piston Wrist Pins (Included)
ARP Rod Bolts(Included)
Ross Piston Coating (Thermal Barrier Ceramic/Hard Skirt Coating) Part # EPC104
Ford Stock 4.6L 3V Oil Pump(New)
Main Bearings(See Note #1)
Rod Bearings(See Note #1)
ARP Main Cap Stud Kit Part # 256-5802
ARP Head Stud Kit Part # 156-4201
Complete Engine Gasket/Seal Set(See Note #2)
Parts Selection (Supplied by Ron)
Livernois Stage 3 Heads (Complete)
CompCams Stage 2 Camshafts
Camshaft Bearings
Windage Tray(See Note #3)
Oil Pickup(See Note #3)
Oil Pan(See Note #3)
Oil Pan Gasket(See Note #3)
Oil Pan Bolts(See Note #3)
Timing Chains, Gears, Phasers, Sensors, etc.
Labor(Supplied by Larry)
Block Cleaning
Block Magnaflux
Block Boring /Honing
Block Line Boring
Crankshaft Sonic Tested
Crankshaft Turned/Polished
Rotating Assembly Balanced
Longblock Assembly
__________________________________________________ ____________________
Notes:
#1 Bearings will be Clevite 77 if available. If not available, then I will use either Seal-Power or Ford
#2 Fel-Pro Gaskets/Seal will be used if available, otherwise, Seal-Pro will be used
3. These items must be provided to complete the build and to be able to seal the bottom end of the motor from contaminents during shipping.
Stock displacement. the strokers arent as reliable as the non strokers and require much more maitenance.
with a rebuilt tranny repalcing the internals and a 26 spline input shaft she should be ok. eventually im switching to the 6 speed
i doubt it would survive a week on a stock tranny lol
haha i will never give up the manual tranny
What don said!
i hope i hit the lotto to make the pain easier lol
with a rebuilt tranny repalcing the internals and a 26 spline input shaft she should be ok. eventually im switching to the 6 speed
i doubt it would survive a week on a stock tranny lol
What don said!
i hope i hit the lotto to make the pain easier lol
And yes, I plan on being at the track this Saturday (March 3). I'm having my alternator rebuilt as we speak... Ford wanted $470 for a new one.
The rebuilt alternator is supposed to be done tomorrow. If it is, then I'll be at the track.Whoops.... sorry Ron. Didn't mean to hijack. Blame Scott.
I posted some from last week, did you see them?
And yes, I plan on being at the track this Saturday (March 3). I'm having my alternator rebuilt as we speak... Ford wanted $470 for a new one.
The rebuilt alternator is supposed to be done tomorrow. If it is, then I'll be at the track.
Whoops.... sorry Ron. Didn't mean to hijack. Blame Scott.
And yes, I plan on being at the track this Saturday (March 3). I'm having my alternator rebuilt as we speak... Ford wanted $470 for a new one.
The rebuilt alternator is supposed to be done tomorrow. If it is, then I'll be at the track.Whoops.... sorry Ron. Didn't mean to hijack. Blame Scott.
absolutely. i owe you for all the help
Hey Ron,
Glad to see the parts list getting more and more complete.
Did you confirm the ARP part numbers for the head studs and the main studs to be 05+ specific?
I know many people were using the earlier head studs and not screwing them in all the way.
Glad to see the parts list getting more and more complete.
Did you confirm the ARP part numbers for the head studs and the main studs to be 05+ specific?
I know many people were using the earlier head studs and not screwing them in all the way.



