Ride quality after changing springs, daily driver
9/4/08, 11:40 PM
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Ride quality after changing springs, daily driver
just curious how the ride quality is on our stangs once they are dropped and you continue to use the stock shocks/struts?
I am considering Eibach Sportlines and dont want to drop the cash for a set of d-specs at this time.
I am considering Eibach Sportlines and dont want to drop the cash for a set of d-specs at this time.
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9/5/08, 05:30 AM
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I used the stockers for a while just had to watch out for the bigger bumps and holes. The sport lines have less of a drop than the pro's (if I remember correctly)you should be alright. When its time the tokico hp's are alright for everyday street use and 200 bucks cheaper for the set
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Now I changed to the STEEDA coil over kit (Tokico). Much better and I am happy as a camper.
9/5/08, 12:27 PM
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I have the prolines. They do make for a slightly harsher ride, but IMO the better handling makes up for it. To keep the car from bottoming out on bumps, I cut the top two sections off of the bump-stops. It's any easy mod, just unbolt the bump stops and cut them with a small saw.
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I have the prolines. They do make for a slightly harsher ride, but IMO the better handling makes up for it. To keep the car from bottoming out on bumps, I cut the top two sections off of the bump-stops. It's any easy mod, just unbolt the bump stops and cut them with a small saw.
I have sportlines and it rides like a log wagon with the factory shocks/struts. haha. my car sits on the bump stops. maybe i should cut them down too.
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imo you shouldnt do springs without doing struts/shocks. Especially sportlines since they drop it lower than "normal". you're going to end up doing them anyway (and sooner than you think) and why not now so you can enjoy the better performance they bring?
With sportlines I seriously doubt the stock strust/shocks will hold up for as long as they do with the pro kit, which isn't long at all, and it's not like the stock dampers give out all of a sudden, it's a very gradual, evil and sneaky decrease in shock absorption, till you get to the point where the ride is so bad and only then do you realize how crap the car is riding as compared to before.
Plus, think about it, if your dampers are not dampening, then where is all that extra energy going? It's going into your car's frame and body(not to mention your own spine) and it may cause stuff to begin rattling and shaking when they shouldnt be, then youre just ducked.
My impressions about eibach and steeda springs:
-eibach sportlines: makes me cringe for spine of driver, huge front chin scrapage guaranteed, may damage undercarriage over unexpected bumps, may cause bolts and panels to fly off car. I will admit that I love the look of the car with sportlines the most. havent driven a car with these so cant comment on ride quality, but it just cannot be good.
-eibach prokit/frpp: top shelf. The balance between ride quality and performance is as good as it can, but it does lean toward the more performance-biased daily driver, and less toward the comfort side. Minmal brake dive, very low roll, comfort is completely tolerable but nowhere near as soft as stock. Provides really sweet looking stance for our mustangs. Reduces the factory rake to a more-appealing, less aggressive, but still very obvious rake.
-steeda springs: Steeda springs do not maintain the factory rake. The car looks too level, and sags when you have peeps in the back seat(compared to the eibachs, which get level with peeps in the back). Car still looks sweet for sure, but I like rake. Forgetting about looks, the steeda sport springs i have in my car increased the ride quality from the prokit tremendously(to the point of being too comfortable!). Brake dive is much more pronounced than with the prokit. Roll is also more pronounced around corners, less of an on-rails feeling. I didnt notice the progressive spring effect with eibachs, but with the Steedas wooo!! the car likes to tilt just a bit on the turns. Since the front of the car is about 1 inch higher than with the eibachs, I dont have to worry about scraping. It's also nice being able to drive people around in a semi-civilzed fashion, so I have kept the steedas in but still have my prokit stored for when that nagging feeling gets too strong.
-steeda ultralites: i figure if my steeda sports are too soft, then ultralites are
for me.
good luck with your choice.
With sportlines I seriously doubt the stock strust/shocks will hold up for as long as they do with the pro kit, which isn't long at all, and it's not like the stock dampers give out all of a sudden, it's a very gradual, evil and sneaky decrease in shock absorption, till you get to the point where the ride is so bad and only then do you realize how crap the car is riding as compared to before.
Plus, think about it, if your dampers are not dampening, then where is all that extra energy going? It's going into your car's frame and body(not to mention your own spine) and it may cause stuff to begin rattling and shaking when they shouldnt be, then youre just ducked.
My impressions about eibach and steeda springs:
-eibach sportlines: makes me cringe for spine of driver, huge front chin scrapage guaranteed, may damage undercarriage over unexpected bumps, may cause bolts and panels to fly off car. I will admit that I love the look of the car with sportlines the most. havent driven a car with these so cant comment on ride quality, but it just cannot be good.
-eibach prokit/frpp: top shelf. The balance between ride quality and performance is as good as it can, but it does lean toward the more performance-biased daily driver, and less toward the comfort side. Minmal brake dive, very low roll, comfort is completely tolerable but nowhere near as soft as stock. Provides really sweet looking stance for our mustangs. Reduces the factory rake to a more-appealing, less aggressive, but still very obvious rake.
-steeda springs: Steeda springs do not maintain the factory rake. The car looks too level, and sags when you have peeps in the back seat(compared to the eibachs, which get level with peeps in the back). Car still looks sweet for sure, but I like rake. Forgetting about looks, the steeda sport springs i have in my car increased the ride quality from the prokit tremendously(to the point of being too comfortable!). Brake dive is much more pronounced than with the prokit. Roll is also more pronounced around corners, less of an on-rails feeling. I didnt notice the progressive spring effect with eibachs, but with the Steedas wooo!! the car likes to tilt just a bit on the turns. Since the front of the car is about 1 inch higher than with the eibachs, I dont have to worry about scraping. It's also nice being able to drive people around in a semi-civilzed fashion, so I have kept the steedas in but still have my prokit stored for when that nagging feeling gets too strong.
-steeda ultralites: i figure if my steeda sports are too soft, then ultralites are
for me.good luck with your choice.
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imo you shouldnt do springs without doing struts/shocks. Especially sportlines since they drop it lower than "normal". you're going to end up doing them anyway (and sooner than you think) and why not now so you can enjoy the better performance they bring?
With sportlines I seriously doubt the stock strust/shocks will hold up for as long as they do with the pro kit, which isn't long at all, and it's not like the stock dampers give out all of a sudden, it's a very gradual, evil and sneaky decrease in shock absorption, till you get to the point where the ride is so bad and only then do you realize how crap the car is riding as compared to before.
Plus, think about it, if your dampers are not dampening, then where is all that extra energy going? It's going into your car's frame and body(not to mention your own spine) and it may cause stuff to begin rattling and shaking when they shouldnt be, then youre just ducked.
My impressions about eibach and steeda springs:
-eibach sportlines: makes me cringe for spine of driver, huge front chin scrapage guaranteed, may damage undercarriage over unexpected bumps, may cause bolts and panels to fly off car. I will admit that I love the look of the car with sportlines the most. havent driven a car with these so cant comment on ride quality, but it just cannot be good.
-eibach prokit/frpp: top shelf. The balance between ride quality and performance is as good as it can, but it does lean toward the more performance-biased daily driver, and less toward the comfort side. Minmal brake dive, very low roll, comfort is completely tolerable but nowhere near as soft as stock. Provides really sweet looking stance for our mustangs. Reduces the factory rake to a more-appealing, less aggressive, but still very obvious rake.
-steeda springs: Steeda springs do not maintain the factory rake. The car looks too level, and sags when you have peeps in the back seat(compared to the eibachs, which get level with peeps in the back). Car still looks sweet for sure, but I like rake. Forgetting about looks, the steeda sport springs i have in my car increased the ride quality from the prokit tremendously(to the point of being too comfortable!). Brake dive is much more pronounced than with the prokit. Roll is also more pronounced around corners, less of an on-rails feeling. I didnt notice the progressive spring effect with eibachs, but with the Steedas wooo!! the car likes to tilt just a bit on the turns. Since the front of the car is about 1 inch higher than with the eibachs, I dont have to worry about scraping. It's also nice being able to drive people around in a semi-civilzed fashion, so I have kept the steedas in but still have my prokit stored for when that nagging feeling gets too strong.
-steeda ultralites: i figure if my steeda sports are too soft, then ultralites are for me.
good luck with your choice.
With sportlines I seriously doubt the stock strust/shocks will hold up for as long as they do with the pro kit, which isn't long at all, and it's not like the stock dampers give out all of a sudden, it's a very gradual, evil and sneaky decrease in shock absorption, till you get to the point where the ride is so bad and only then do you realize how crap the car is riding as compared to before.
Plus, think about it, if your dampers are not dampening, then where is all that extra energy going? It's going into your car's frame and body(not to mention your own spine) and it may cause stuff to begin rattling and shaking when they shouldnt be, then youre just ducked.
My impressions about eibach and steeda springs:
-eibach sportlines: makes me cringe for spine of driver, huge front chin scrapage guaranteed, may damage undercarriage over unexpected bumps, may cause bolts and panels to fly off car. I will admit that I love the look of the car with sportlines the most. havent driven a car with these so cant comment on ride quality, but it just cannot be good.
-eibach prokit/frpp: top shelf. The balance between ride quality and performance is as good as it can, but it does lean toward the more performance-biased daily driver, and less toward the comfort side. Minmal brake dive, very low roll, comfort is completely tolerable but nowhere near as soft as stock. Provides really sweet looking stance for our mustangs. Reduces the factory rake to a more-appealing, less aggressive, but still very obvious rake.
-steeda springs: Steeda springs do not maintain the factory rake. The car looks too level, and sags when you have peeps in the back seat(compared to the eibachs, which get level with peeps in the back). Car still looks sweet for sure, but I like rake. Forgetting about looks, the steeda sport springs i have in my car increased the ride quality from the prokit tremendously(to the point of being too comfortable!). Brake dive is much more pronounced than with the prokit. Roll is also more pronounced around corners, less of an on-rails feeling. I didnt notice the progressive spring effect with eibachs, but with the Steedas wooo!! the car likes to tilt just a bit on the turns. Since the front of the car is about 1 inch higher than with the eibachs, I dont have to worry about scraping. It's also nice being able to drive people around in a semi-civilzed fashion, so I have kept the steedas in but still have my prokit stored for when that nagging feeling gets too strong.
-steeda ultralites: i figure if my steeda sports are too soft, then ultralites are
for me.good luck with your choice.
wow great write up, this exactly the info I was seeking, thank you very much for your informative post.
9/6/08, 06:26 AM
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I have the sportlines and it's definitely low. Remember it will settle after break-in and be a tad lower. The ride was a bit harsh when hitting bumps. You can feel it busting through the compression and rebound of your suspension.
You will definitely want a Steeda bump steer kit and also an adjustable panhard rod. Thats a MUST because your car wont sit right w/out it. The axle shifts when lowered causing it to not be centered (and its very noticeable).
If you can, get the Tokico D-specs along with them along with the remote adjusters. I had them installed about a month later and its night and day difference. Not to mention you can change your suspension ride on the fly at that point.
Here is the stance of mine after all the mentioned installs.
You will definitely want a Steeda bump steer kit and also an adjustable panhard rod. Thats a MUST because your car wont sit right w/out it. The axle shifts when lowered causing it to not be centered (and its very noticeable).
If you can, get the Tokico D-specs along with them along with the remote adjusters. I had them installed about a month later and its night and day difference. Not to mention you can change your suspension ride on the fly at that point.
Here is the stance of mine after all the mentioned installs.
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9/6/08, 09:05 AM
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Here are a couple of Steeda Ultralite photos. You'll like them. I did some other upgrades, so I can't tell you about them with factory struts, etc. But the package is great.