Yeah I know they arnt necessary. But ppl that don't know anything think "bigger maf = more air flow". That's why I think cai are not near what they are hyped to be. The car can only suck in so much air. The factory intake system isn't that restrictive. So changing it to a bigger intake doesn't really improve the flow all that much like ppl think it does.

 

I do believe that CAI is worth it but not one with a MAF housing. Fresh cool air will help the vehicle operate more efficiently. Maybe not much hp increase or even fuel mileage increase but it will be more efficient.

 

The factory air box gets the air from the same place a cai does. How could a cai get colder air than the factory air box then they are both drawing from the same place?

 

My filter is way down in my fender well and it will draw in colder air. And the cone shaped filter will be less restrictive than the factory set up. Is it a big advantage over stock? Probably not but every little bit helps. And it sure looks a lot better also. Quit being cheap and quit trying to argue.

 

Hey. Not cheap... I bought one too. Bbk cold air intake. But I bought it for the looks. I wasn't expecting any feelable HP and sure enough there was no feelable HP. And my filter is also way down in the fender.

And if you wanted to be"cheap", all you need is a drop in filter and you get a better flow

 

You just want to argue with anybody don't you? Guess that's what happens when you're not allowed to argue at home.

 

Well you know, Ford's just lying. They don't know anything. What's Randle know anyways?

“Colder air reduces intake losses,” said Randle. “The new cold-air intake has shown a reduction in rise over ambient temperature from 50 degrees down to 17 degrees Fahrenheit. That equates to more horsepower and more torque in all driving conditions.”

thanks to the airflow increase that the new system promotes.

 

You are taking me wrong here... did I say there are absolutely no gains? As I recall I haven't. What I am getting at is there are better mods to spend your money on.

What bothers me about cai is most ppl believe they are Gods gift to their cars, they thint they just gained 50hp! And its common on this forum too.. there are guys here who believe the cold air intake makes the car.
Does the intake help? In most cases yes. Its a minimal gain. But I'm not gonna **** my pants in amazement with this "awesome power for the money" bull****..

 

This is my 04 GTO, you should be me right now because were still waiting on a transmission lol. It's a fun build me and my dad are doing.

 

Nice! Ill race you in my prelude so I can add you to my "dust" list lmao!

 

Lol your on!!

 

My engine bay last week I finish it Saturday morning when my final par gets here

 

What's going I'm it?

 

The stock airbox maf housing is 80MM on my 05GT.. So I am assuming Ford did not change the stock airbox/maf size until the 5.0 debut on the 11 GT models.. I can also confirm that my 90MM steeda CAI and bamachip's 93 octane race tunes provided 31 additional HP over stock !

 

Factory slow mo engine

 

Really like those cars. Only problem with them is the rear end is a little weak. Great cars though.

 

I love the posts that say "if the CAI doesn't require a tune, it is no good" . . . that shows basic misunderstanding of the MAF thing. The reason that CAI's with larger diameter MAF need a tune is simply because the sensor will give incorrect readings if it is not recalibrated for the larger tube. That does not mean a CAI with a better filter, open box, etc. will not flow more air if it does not also have a bigger tube.

Some CAI's, like the Bullitt one that Charlie keeps pointing to, DO draw the air from a different and possibly cooler location.

Back to the original RAM air thing -- I like the basic idea of getting high pressure cool air direct to the airbox, if done right it seems like it could almost be like a "free" supercharger . . . not a big boost like a real supercharger, but it seems to me if done right you should be able to get a psi or two out of it when the car is moving fast

 

Gotta respectfully disagree. Not all CAI's are created equal.

The FRPP/Bullitt CAI is designed to suck in cooler outside at all times, even when the car is idling at a standstill. (I believe the same is true for the WMS CAI).
This design feature is obviously important when either waiting at a stoplight, or waiting in line at the dragstrip.

I was once tempted to swap out my current CAI for an FRPP unit, until I figured out a method to completely isolate the heat shield from the hotter underhood air. Before-and-after IAT data logging indicates it works as intended.
I can also feel a small SOTP performance increase with the isolated heat shield after the car has been idling at a standstill for a minute or so with the engine fully warmed up in hot (80 F +/-) ambient temps. This SOTP performance increase was confirmed when I beat another 05 manual S197 GT(also with a CAI/93 tune) by half a car in a 40-100 mph rolling race(both started in 2nd) immediately after we were sitting at a stoplight for at least a minute with fully warmed up engines in 85 F ambient temps. And yeah, he knew how to shift.

 

If done right, the car will most likely ingest water during inclement weather. Not a good thing for an engine.

 

Maybe the Guy just weighed 50 more pounds than you too. You can't just say its the intake when you don't have controlled tests.