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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 12:02 PM
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Just an 05 GT w/CAI & tune.
BS. You couldn't dust a new 5.0 with that.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 12:06 PM
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BS. You couldn't dust a new 5.0 with that.
Gotta respectfully disagree. The driver didn't know to launch, and he just sat there and spun.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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Gotta respectfully disagree. The driver didn't know to launch, and he just sat there and spun.
Then that's driver error. In my 97 cobra I have beat multiple 05 GTs. And they didn't wheel spin. I've beaten a 06 gt. Cai, tune, full exhaust, and gears.

So yes I would like to add you to my "dusted" list.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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Bring it on.
I'll be happy to add your ride to my dusted vehicle list:
'11 Mustang GT, C5 auto, 05 GTO, '99 Cobra, STI, LS1 T/A, 383 stroker '74 Chevelle, 460 stroker '79 T/A, 455 '70 GSX(gears/headers), Buick GNX, Syclone, and numerous older/newer Mustang GT's.
Lol I don't believe any of that! Did they know you were racing, and I don't think you raced a Buick GNX maybe a grand national!
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by texastboneking

Then that's driver error. In my 97 cobra I have beat multiple 05 GTs. And they didn't wheel spin. I've beaten a 06 gt. Cai, tune, full exhaust, and gears.

So yes I would like to add you to my "dusted" list.
I'll race you in my 04 GTO
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by texastboneking
Then that's driver error. In my 97 cobra I have beat multiple 05 GTs. And they didn't wheel spin. I've beaten a 06 gt. Cai, tune, full exhaust, and gears.

So yes I would like to add you to my "dusted" list.
You run what you brung. If you don't know how to drive what you brung, then you lose.
When do you plan to be up this way so we can bump heads?
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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Lol I don't believe any of that!
I cannot force you, or anyone else, to believe me.
However, every one of those races happened, and ended exactly as I stated. (BTW, I know the difference between a GN and a GNX.)
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Zaksgt
I'll race you in my 04 GTO
Bring yours on too.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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I'll race you in my 04 GTO
Screw that
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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You run what you brung. If you don't know how to drive what you brung, then you lose.
When do you plan to be up this way so we can bump heads?
Well like I sad. My cobras down for several months. If I could get a set of tires I'd take your offer this Saturday. But MT current tires are showing cord in the middle...
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 12:46 PM
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Well like I sad. My cobras down for several months. If I could get a set of tires I'd take your offer this Saturday. But MT current tires are showing cord in the middle...
This Sat. would not be good anyway. The forecast is calling for snow up here.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 12:47 PM
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This Sat. would not be good anyway. The forecast is calling for snow up here.
In ft worth?
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by texastboneking
:Rofl2: you can get almoast the same numbers out of just a tune. No where near the best bang for the Buck.
I don't think you can really say that. I mean that's a convaluted argument - because with the FRPP CAI you HAVE to get a tune because of the increased airflow. As we know, the FRPP tune isn't that radical - but it does keep correct A/F. So with Bullitt, that gain was mostly from the CAI.
And again you're arguing against Ford engineers that picked up 15HP on Bullitt's CAI/hood seal over the GT's 4.6 w/stock airbox.

estimates:

CAI = 15HP
Tune (nonFRPP) = 10-25HP
Cams = 30HP
Ported Heads = 20HP?
Longtubes/Xpipe = 30HP?
Intake/throttle body/injectors = 30HP?

All of the above in combination =

A proper CAI with tune for A/F is less money and less involved than any other thing on the list.

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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 01:04 PM
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I don't think you can really say that. I mean that's a convaluted argument - because with the FRPP CAI you HAVE to get a tune because of the increased airflow. As we know, the FRPP tune isn't that radical - but it does keep correct A/F. So with Bullitt, that gain was mostly from the CAI.
And again you're arguing against Ford engineers that picked up 15HP on Bullitt's CAI/hood seal over the GT's 4.6 w/stock airbox.

estimates:

CAI = 15HP
Tune (nonFRPP) = 10-25HP
Cams = 30HP
Ported Heads = 20HP?
Longtubes/Xpipe = 30HP?
Intake/throttle body/injectors = 30HP?

All of the above in combination =
Lies!
The tune is for the bigger mas air flow sensor. Not for the increase in air. The stock maf can read quite a bit more air than it normally gets.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by texastboneking
In ft worth?
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by texastboneking
Lies!
The tune is for the bigger mas air flow sensor. Not for the increase in air. The stock maf can read quite a bit more air than it normally gets.
Say it however you like, but the tune was required in part for keeping A/F in range.

(I have not read anything where maf on Bullitt was different than GT. I can pull a part number from my manual if you like)

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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 01:11 PM
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Say it however you like, but the tune was required in part for keeping A/F in range.
Correct. Because the different Maf reads a different airflow because the resistor in the maf cools off slower in a larger maf. Therefore the readings will be different.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 01:13 PM
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I have personally tuned vehicles and I know what some cai. Require a tune.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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Correct. Because the different Maf reads a different airflow because the resistor in the maf cools off slower in a larger maf. Therefore the readings will be different.
So what's your part number for the different "Bullitt maf"?
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 01:16 PM
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So what's your part number for the different "Bullitt maf"?
I don't know. But I know why it requires the tune. Have you personally tuned a vehicle?
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