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2/15/06, 05:12 AM
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Most people have Steeda, and they are the cheapest right now. I have a set sitting right here next to me.
The steeda comes with the best install directions, since the other kits don't include the correct torque specs for the harmonic balancer.
The steeda comes with the best install directions, since the other kits don't include the correct torque specs for the harmonic balancer.
2/15/06, 05:46 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dustindu4 @ February 15, 2006, 7:15 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Most people have Steeda, and they are the cheapest right now. I have a set sitting right here next to me.
The steeda comes with the best install directions, since the other kits don't include the correct torque specs for the harmonic balancer.
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2nd Steeda, have them in and they feel great!
Most people have Steeda, and they are the cheapest right now. I have a set sitting right here next to me.
The steeda comes with the best install directions, since the other kits don't include the correct torque specs for the harmonic balancer.
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2nd Steeda, have them in and they feel great!
2/15/06, 05:55 AM
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3rd for Steeda. I got a 7 peak hp increase and about a 8-12 hp gain over the whole range. It even feels like the engine is a tad smoother, but it could be just me.
2/15/06, 08:40 AM
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MAKE SURE YOU:
read the net about the hazards. I read on a number of FAQs some direcntly by Ford about putting UD pullies on mustangs. The general consensus was that the pullies decrease power in certain areas to give the engine back some HP. But what you don't normally hear is that it takes power away from the water pump that cools you engine. Ford said generally it descreases the flow by 70% or 80% casuing an increase in engine temps(not good for the engine). I'm not trying to stop you from buying, but just letting you know of possible issues with them. Probably doesn't hurt short term, but if your a daily driver in this thing, it wlil probably bring down your engines life.
read the net about the hazards. I read on a number of FAQs some direcntly by Ford about putting UD pullies on mustangs. The general consensus was that the pullies decrease power in certain areas to give the engine back some HP. But what you don't normally hear is that it takes power away from the water pump that cools you engine. Ford said generally it descreases the flow by 70% or 80% casuing an increase in engine temps(not good for the engine). I'm not trying to stop you from buying, but just letting you know of possible issues with them. Probably doesn't hurt short term, but if your a daily driver in this thing, it wlil probably bring down your engines life.
2/15/06, 09:02 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tw0scoops123 @ February 15, 2006, 10:43 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
MAKE SURE YOU:
read the net about the hazards. I read on a number of FAQs some direcntly by Ford about putting UD pullies on mustangs. The general consensus was that the pullies decrease power in certain areas to give the engine back some HP. But what you don't normally hear is that it takes power away from the water pump that cools you engine. Ford said generally it descreases the flow by 70% or 80% casuing an increase in engine temps(not good for the engine). I'm not trying to stop you from buying, but just letting you know of possible issues with them. Probably doesn't hurt short term, but if your a daily driver in this thing, it wlil probably bring down your engines life.
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That's why I have an electric water pump!
MAKE SURE YOU:
read the net about the hazards. I read on a number of FAQs some direcntly by Ford about putting UD pullies on mustangs. The general consensus was that the pullies decrease power in certain areas to give the engine back some HP. But what you don't normally hear is that it takes power away from the water pump that cools you engine. Ford said generally it descreases the flow by 70% or 80% casuing an increase in engine temps(not good for the engine). I'm not trying to stop you from buying, but just letting you know of possible issues with them. Probably doesn't hurt short term, but if your a daily driver in this thing, it wlil probably bring down your engines life.
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That's why I have an electric water pump!
2/15/06, 09:43 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dustindu4 @ February 15, 2006, 11:05 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
That's why I have an electric water pump!
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Well there you go then. LOL
Just curious, how does that work? Does the electric water have some kinda extra powr source or is not affected by the pullies?
That's why I have an electric water pump!
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Well there you go then. LOL
Just curious, how does that work? Does the electric water have some kinda extra powr source or is not affected by the pullies?
2/15/06, 09:48 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tw0scoops123 @ February 15, 2006, 8:46 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Well there you go then. LOL
Just curious, how does that work? Does the electric water have some kinda extra powr source or is not affected by the pullies?
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The eH2O pump is not belt driven, but does have a free-spinning dummy pulley on it the same diameter as the stock pump.
Well there you go then. LOL
Just curious, how does that work? Does the electric water have some kinda extra powr source or is not affected by the pullies?
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The eH2O pump is not belt driven, but does have a free-spinning dummy pulley on it the same diameter as the stock pump.
2/15/06, 10:07 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(don_w @ February 15, 2006, 11:51 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
The eH2O pump is not belt driven, but does have a free-spinning dummy pulley on it the same diameter as the stock pump.
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So it's directly connected to the battery? If not how does it get it's power?
The eH2O pump is not belt driven, but does have a free-spinning dummy pulley on it the same diameter as the stock pump.
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So it's directly connected to the battery? If not how does it get it's power?
2/15/06, 10:20 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tw0scoops123 @ February 15, 2006, 12:10 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
So it's directly connected to the battery? If not how does it get it's power?
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It comes with a mouse inside to turn it for you.
[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrinjester.gif[/img]
Just do a search for Meziere. There was a group buy not long ago that you just missed out on.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...6681&hl=meziere
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So it's directly connected to the battery? If not how does it get it's power?
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It comes with a mouse inside to turn it for you.
[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrinjester.gif[/img]
Just do a search for Meziere. There was a group buy not long ago that you just missed out on.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...6681&hl=meziere
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...2503&hl=meziere
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...6146&hl=meziere
2/15/06, 11:02 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dustindu4 @ February 15, 2006, 12:23 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
It comes with a mouse inside to turn it for you.
[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrinjester.gif[/img]
Just do a search for Meziere. There was a group buy not long ago that you just missed out on.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...6681&hl=meziere
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...2503&hl=meziere
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...6146&hl=meziere
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Ooooo a mouse. Can I use a gerbil instead. haha [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/04.gif[/img]
It comes with a mouse inside to turn it for you.
[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrinjester.gif[/img]
Just do a search for Meziere. There was a group buy not long ago that you just missed out on.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...6681&hl=meziere
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...2503&hl=meziere
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...6146&hl=meziere
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Ooooo a mouse. Can I use a gerbil instead. haha [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/04.gif[/img]
2/15/06, 11:06 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tw0scoops123 @ February 15, 2006, 12:05 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Ooooo a mouse. Can I use a gerbil instead. haha [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/04.gif[/img]
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You must ask Richard Geer - King of gerbil love!
Ooooo a mouse. Can I use a gerbil instead. haha [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/04.gif[/img]
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You must ask Richard Geer - King of gerbil love!
2/15/06, 12:16 PM
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Most pullies (including the Steedas) advertise a reduction of 25%. So seemingly the water pump as well as other accessories would be turning at 75% of normal rotation.
I would be more interested in hearing about any potential cooling problems that people with pullies might of actually had; anyone out there have any problems?
I would be more interested in hearing about any potential cooling problems that people with pullies might of actually had; anyone out there have any problems?
2/15/06, 12:51 PM
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Reducing the mass of the damper ring I think would be the biggest issue with installing these pulleys. I have read that the 4.6 has issues with crank harmonics that are not made any better by downsizing the harmonic damper.
2/15/06, 01:15 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RPM @ February 15, 2006, 2:54 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I have read that the 4.6 has issues with crank harmonics that are not made any better by downsizing the harmonic damper.
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I'm sure Steeda's involvement with Ford's shared technology program gave them the inside info they needed to know to make a good damper. For this reason I would only buy a Steeda.
I have read that the 4.6 has issues with crank harmonics that are not made any better by downsizing the harmonic damper.
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I'm sure Steeda's involvement with Ford's shared technology program gave them the inside info they needed to know to make a good damper. For this reason I would only buy a Steeda.
2/15/06, 01:40 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dustindu4 @ February 15, 2006, 2:18 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I'm sure Steeda's involvement with Ford's shared technology program gave them the inside info they needed to know to make a good damper. For this reason I would only buy a Steeda.
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Still not sold on the idea that downsizing the damper is a good idea, especially when modifying to increase HP. Maybe the Steeda underdrive is the best, for an underdrive pulley, but still won't do the job as well as the OEM damper.
I'm sure Steeda's involvement with Ford's shared technology program gave them the inside info they needed to know to make a good damper. For this reason I would only buy a Steeda.
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Still not sold on the idea that downsizing the damper is a good idea, especially when modifying to increase HP. Maybe the Steeda underdrive is the best, for an underdrive pulley, but still won't do the job as well as the OEM damper.
2/15/06, 01:46 PM
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Steeda's harmonic balancer is SFI approved, just like the stock one.
Now that I think about it, maybe it wasn't a good idea to buy used pullies off a motor that grenaded
(just kidding)
Now that I think about it, maybe it wasn't a good idea to buy used pullies off a motor that grenaded
(just kidding)
2/15/06, 02:02 PM
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Well this has been talked about on here alot. From what I have read people in Florida and Arizona both have them and have not experienced cooling and/or air conditioner problems. A local Ford dealer here in Indy installs them and told me that basically the only thing that could go wrong is if the instalation was not completed correctly or if a pulley was bad. They still warranty their cars and said they would have to prove the pulleys caused a problem to not warranty something.
I have Steeda's laying on the floor next to me. I may pay them 118.00 just to insure they can't say the installation was bad. I know they are easy and I have done all the other mods myself but, 118.00 doesn't sound to bad for the insurance.
Roush makes them also and if they put them on knowing there reputation for motors in racing. I would think they won't hurt any thing.
I have Steeda's laying on the floor next to me. I may pay them 118.00 just to insure they can't say the installation was bad. I know they are easy and I have done all the other mods myself but, 118.00 doesn't sound to bad for the insurance.
Roush makes them also and if they put them on knowing there reputation for motors in racing. I would think they won't hurt any thing.
2/15/06, 04:20 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tw0scoops123 @ February 15, 2006, 10:43 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
MAKE SURE YOU:
read the net about the hazards. I read on a number of FAQs some direcntly by Ford about putting UD pullies on mustangs. The general consensus was that the pullies decrease power in certain areas to give the engine back some HP. But what you don't normally hear is that it takes power away from the water pump that cools you engine. Ford said generally it descreases the flow by 70% or 80% casuing an increase in engine temps(not good for the engine). I'm not trying to stop you from buying, but just letting you know of possible issues with them. Probably doesn't hurt short term, but if your a daily driver in this thing, it wlil probably bring down your engines life.
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They will not decrease flow by 70-80%. Maybe 25-30%. I have had them through a AZ summer with no over heating or A/C problems. Temp gauge never changed after install. 112 average outside temps.
MAKE SURE YOU:
read the net about the hazards. I read on a number of FAQs some direcntly by Ford about putting UD pullies on mustangs. The general consensus was that the pullies decrease power in certain areas to give the engine back some HP. But what you don't normally hear is that it takes power away from the water pump that cools you engine. Ford said generally it descreases the flow by 70% or 80% casuing an increase in engine temps(not good for the engine). I'm not trying to stop you from buying, but just letting you know of possible issues with them. Probably doesn't hurt short term, but if your a daily driver in this thing, it wlil probably bring down your engines life.
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They will not decrease flow by 70-80%. Maybe 25-30%. I have had them through a AZ summer with no over heating or A/C problems. Temp gauge never changed after install. 112 average outside temps.