Is it possible to install a Pypes OR/H with ramps only?
6/30/08, 08:37 PM
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Is it possible to install a Pypes OR/H with ramps only?
Hey, is it possible to install my ordered pypes or/h with rhino ramps only?
or should I...
1. Purchase a jack and stands = less to spend on mods
2. Go to the auto hobby on base and use one of there lifts? I have no experience with lifts!
or should I...
1. Purchase a jack and stands = less to spend on mods
2. Go to the auto hobby on base and use one of there lifts? I have no experience with lifts!
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6/30/08, 08:59 PM
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You can do it with just ramps.
6/30/08, 10:04 PM
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Sure you can do it with just ramps, but it's much easier if you have the car level on 4 jackstands. It especially helps by keeping your mid-pipe straight and level, when installing into the over the axle pipes. At least it was for me anyhow 
7/1/08, 12:00 PM
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I would get jack stands. You can get some really nice Husky SUV stands at Home Depot for like $30. I found it to be a pain to get the H pipe up into where it needs to go without the rear of the H pipe hitting the floor.
Plus, you'll find much, much use for those stands in the future. Just my .002.
Plus, you'll find much, much use for those stands in the future. Just my .002.
7/1/08, 08:40 PM
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I think that i'm going to give it a go with just the ramps. Should I line up the H pipe and clamp it down before I install it to the midpipe? i could line it up against the stock pipe. This might help install and I will have a helper who can be on the other side of the car.
Robbie, your car looks better every time I see it. one of the best grabbers on tms.
Robbie, your car looks better every time I see it. one of the best grabbers on tms.
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Tom, it's an easy job. You're better off having your friend help you by handing you the right tools rather than being underneath the car w/ you. I found having some long extensions (10"?) and a swivel very helpful, pretty much necessary to get it off the manifold. You'll want to get one side up and just shy of snug, then do the other side. Once you get both sides where they need to be w/ a good seal on the manifold, then tighten them down. The H will be hanging in the hangers, so don't worry about the backs yet. There's plenty of play in the over-axle pipes where you won't have any alignment problems there. If you get a bad seal do to alignment, it's going to be at the manifold.
* Edit: Oh crap, I forgot that Pypes is now using a 4 piece pipe. Anyways, ignore what I said, unless it helps. Some of it will still apply though, like the necessary tools, etc.
Tom, it's an easy job. You're better off having your friend help you by handing you the right tools rather than being underneath the car w/ you. I found having some long extensions (10"?) and a swivel very helpful, pretty much necessary to get it off the manifold. You'll want to get one side up and just shy of snug, then do the other side. Once you get both sides where they need to be w/ a good seal on the manifold, then tighten them down. The H will be hanging in the hangers, so don't worry about the backs yet. There's plenty of play in the over-axle pipes where you won't have any alignment problems there. If you get a bad seal do to alignment, it's going to be at the manifold.
* Edit: Oh crap, I forgot that Pypes is now using a 4 piece pipe. Anyways, ignore what I said, unless it helps. Some of it will still apply though, like the necessary tools, etc.
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7/2/08, 09:33 AM
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I think that i'm going to give it a go with just the ramps. Should I line up the H pipe and clamp it down before I install it to the midpipe? i could line it up against the stock pipe. This might help install and I will have a helper who can be on the other side of the car.
Robbie, your car looks better every time I see it. one of the best grabbers on tms.
Robbie, your car looks better every time I see it. one of the best grabbers on tms.
7/2/08, 05:25 PM
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Oh yeah that's right, they now offer a two piece design.
7/2/08, 07:14 PM
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I'm not sure what design I will be getting. I hope that it is the two piece design that taco used and is on the Brenspeed site because install shouldn't be that hard. It should be here tomorrow and I will know then and am planning to install with ramps only on friday.
Even though the Brenspeed tune really opened up my exhaust; I am sick of the whimpy stock exhaust!!!
I love the orh/stock ab sound. I wanted it much deeper and louder with no drone and no so loud that my neighbors will get upset and I think/hope this set up does the trick. Thanks for all the great tips, I love modding!!!
Even though the Brenspeed tune really opened up my exhaust; I am sick of the whimpy stock exhaust!!!
I love the orh/stock ab sound. I wanted it much deeper and louder with no drone and no so loud that my neighbors will get upset and I think/hope this set up does the trick. Thanks for all the great tips, I love modding!!!
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Install is complete!!! 
I'm proud to say that I did it all myself even though I wondered if I am getting to old to be rolling around on hard concrete. Install went good, followed taco's directions of course. Uninstalling the factory H pipe was the hardest part, the or/h was a breeze because the cats were gone. I was glad to have the 4 piece design because it made life easier for me, I could see how it would have been more difficult with the 2 piece design. The ramps worked fine even though it was tight but my long reach helped out there.
Things to note...
* I purchased a 2 1/4" heavy duty clamp from Autozone before I started because I heard the supplied clamp was cramp, paid $3.00 = good investment.
* The upper O2 sensor on the passenger side was moved down on the new or/h pipe. The plug wires were not long enough to reach the connection. I had to unhook the female connection from its seat to get enough slack to make the connection. This left the plug connection floating a bit but it didn't seem like a problem because there wasn't enough slack for it to bounce around. I think this was a design flaw in the pipe.
Driving experience...The sound is perfect!!! A idol it was barely louder with my stock AB's but at WOT is sounded mean. I do not want to be loud all of the time so that the neighbors do not get upset but I can get on it and people know I'm coming. This was a great purchase at a great price!
Question...Do I need to reinstall my custom tune because I disconnected the battery? My car felt like it was running differently, not bad, but different. How does the free flowing exhaust effect the car. I almost stalled once and another time pulled out at 4,000 from a stop trying to drive normal. Anyone notice any changes in drivability or maybe it was just me. I can say that it felt strong and I'm sure that I just gained 5-10 hp.
I'm proud to say that I did it all myself even though I wondered if I am getting to old to be rolling around on hard concrete. Install went good, followed taco's directions of course. Uninstalling the factory H pipe was the hardest part, the or/h was a breeze because the cats were gone. I was glad to have the 4 piece design because it made life easier for me, I could see how it would have been more difficult with the 2 piece design. The ramps worked fine even though it was tight but my long reach helped out there. Things to note...
* I purchased a 2 1/4" heavy duty clamp from Autozone before I started because I heard the supplied clamp was cramp, paid $3.00 = good investment.
* The upper O2 sensor on the passenger side was moved down on the new or/h pipe. The plug wires were not long enough to reach the connection. I had to unhook the female connection from its seat to get enough slack to make the connection. This left the plug connection floating a bit but it didn't seem like a problem because there wasn't enough slack for it to bounce around. I think this was a design flaw in the pipe.
Driving experience...The sound is perfect!!!
A idol it was barely louder with my stock AB's but at WOT is sounded mean. I do not want to be loud all of the time so that the neighbors do not get upset but I can get on it and people know I'm coming. This was a great purchase at a great price!Question...Do I need to reinstall my custom tune because I disconnected the battery? My car felt like it was running differently, not bad, but different. How does the free flowing exhaust effect the car. I almost stalled once and another time pulled out at 4,000 from a stop trying to drive normal. Anyone notice any changes in drivability or maybe it was just me. I can say that it felt strong and I'm sure that I just gained 5-10 hp.
7/4/08, 03:22 PM
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Install is complete!!! I'm proud to say that I did it all myself even though I wondered if I am getting to old to be rolling around on hard concrete. Install went good, followed taco's directions of course. Uninstalling the factory H pipe was the hardest part, the or/h was a breeze because the cats were gone. I was glad to have the 4 piece design because it made life easier for me, I could see how it would have been more difficult with the 2 piece design. The ramps worked fine even though it was tight but my long reach helped out there.
Things to note...
* I purchased a 2 1/4" heavy duty clamp from Autozone before I started because I heard the supplied clamp was cramp, paid $3.00 = good investment.
* The upper O2 sensor on the passenger side was moved down on the new or/h pipe. The plug wires were not long enough to reach the connection. I had to unhook the female connection from its seat to get enough slack to make the connection. This left the plug connection floating a bit but it didn't seem like a problem because there wasn't enough slack for it to bounce around. I think this was a design flaw in the pipe.
Driving experience...The sound is perfect!!! A idol it was barely louder with my stock AB's but at WOT is sounded mean. I do not want to be loud all of the time so that the neighbors do not get upset but I can get on it and people know I'm coming. This was a great purchase at a great price!
Question...Do I need to reinstall my custom tune because I disconnected the battery? My car felt like it was running differently, not bad, but different. How does the free flowing exhaust effect the car. I almost stalled once and another time pulled out at 4,000 from a stop trying to drive normal. Anyone notice any changes in drivability or maybe it was just me. I can say that it felt strong and I'm sure that I just gained 5-10 hp.
I'm proud to say that I did it all myself even though I wondered if I am getting to old to be rolling around on hard concrete. Install went good, followed taco's directions of course. Uninstalling the factory H pipe was the hardest part, the or/h was a breeze because the cats were gone. I was glad to have the 4 piece design because it made life easier for me, I could see how it would have been more difficult with the 2 piece design. The ramps worked fine even though it was tight but my long reach helped out there. Things to note...
* I purchased a 2 1/4" heavy duty clamp from Autozone before I started because I heard the supplied clamp was cramp, paid $3.00 = good investment.
* The upper O2 sensor on the passenger side was moved down on the new or/h pipe. The plug wires were not long enough to reach the connection. I had to unhook the female connection from its seat to get enough slack to make the connection. This left the plug connection floating a bit but it didn't seem like a problem because there wasn't enough slack for it to bounce around. I think this was a design flaw in the pipe.
Driving experience...The sound is perfect!!!
A idol it was barely louder with my stock AB's but at WOT is sounded mean. I do not want to be loud all of the time so that the neighbors do not get upset but I can get on it and people know I'm coming. This was a great purchase at a great price!Question...Do I need to reinstall my custom tune because I disconnected the battery? My car felt like it was running differently, not bad, but different. How does the free flowing exhaust effect the car. I almost stalled once and another time pulled out at 4,000 from a stop trying to drive normal. Anyone notice any changes in drivability or maybe it was just me. I can say that it felt strong and I'm sure that I just gained 5-10 hp.