Looking to see how many people have had past experiecnes with ProChargers that have leaked or NOT leaked.

-Bryan

 

this should get interesting!!! out of all of the centrifugal kit's for the 05 i like the procharger the best for a few good reasons. unfortunately they have a long standing reputation of leaky blowers and **** poor customer service. if your not running one of there big blowers...there not worried about you. hopefully this thread shows that this isn't the case anymore and procharger has turned things around for the better....there 05 kit really is sweet and much better than the paxton and vortec imo

 

I am hoping to get some good feedback as well. This is the S/C I want, but I don't want a 20% or higher 'Failed' report. I see lots of post about leaks, but everyone can have bad experiecnes, just like I did with my RKSport Ram Air hood.

-Bryan

 

Spend the extra..........Go whipple

 

I would be more than happy to pay whatever someone asks, for a product that works and is avail.

Per Whipple they are a "couple" of months out. Now, from past experiences, a "couple" of months could be whenever. I have delt with very few vendors in the past 6 months that gave me any realistic expectations on ETAs

-Bryan

 

ati called this morning saying my blower will be here tommorrow, next day air!

 

good stuff!

 

Great. I am looking forward to your new results.

-Bryan

 

Keep in mind that all companies can't make a 100% perfect product every time. Procharger had a large batch of bad seals several years ago due to a manufacturing defect in the seal itself. Unfortunately if one person has a problem they tend to post the same thing over and over again. In reality Procharger sells thousands of blowers and only a VERY small percentage has had a problem. I have owned atleast 25 prochargers, two Novi's and four Vortechs. I have broken one Procharger (D3C), two Novi's (2000s), and two Vortechs (S-Trims). The Novi's and Vortechs were due to bearing failure (Spinning them hard) and the D3C was due to a clogged oil feed line. What I can tell you is that Procharger has been inovating every year unlike the other companies that are still living off of 10 year old technology. Try to keep in mind the number of happy customers out there that aren't on here everytime someone mentions procharger unlike the one or two disatisfied customers. What I can deffinately tell you about the 05 Procharger kit is that it is an easy install, easily makes the advertised horsepower and makes over 500 with nothing more than a fuel pump. The blower is self contained, extremely reliable, and capable of supporting well over 800hp. IT's a blower you can put a cog belt on and not be afraid of breaking it... something you can grow with. The fact that they took the time to design the kit (with my help ) in such a way that it bolts on and off easily, has a SEPARATE 8 rib belt system for it, and is self contained so you dont punch a hole in your brand new oil pan says something about the company. They took the time to analyze the whole thing before building it... and they still made it to market and are shipping volumes well before any of the other companies. If anyone has any questions or problems with a procharger, please let me know and I will do all I can to help... Why? I don't get paid... Im just loyal to a company that has done so much for the industry and done it well.....

Mike Freedman

 

i sell auto parts for a living, and can tell you first hand, you dont hear about the parts that dont fail, just the ones that do.

my procharger had a leak, an external leak, and ati was VERY quick to get it resolved.

 

In reply to a question about what fuel pump to run......

We are working on a couple of them. I have three that I will test this week.

Mike Freedman

 

Thanks for the feedback guys. For myself, I have already put mine on order (today) so hopefully this thread will help others decide as well

-Bryan

 

The ProCharger is high on my list. I'm waiting to see what else happens in the market, other players, price decreases, etc. I've noticed Saleen has their's available. Pretty cool looking unit, but expensive ($5K).

http://commerce.saleen.com/Catalog.aspx?se...ageType=Default

 

Your best bet to get a honest answer will probably be on a non 05 Mustang forum like " The Corral."

I voted for my experience with them :notnice:

Thanks Mike

 

I have a D1-SC on an 88 GT that i've had for over 3 years with no problems at all. Everytime I call Procharger for a belt or for more oil they are very professional and answer any and all q's I have

 

While I want get into it about the Procharger debate,(obvouisly because we are on opposite sides of the fence) I do think it's wrong to tell people to disregard the bad experiences because they are only a small percent (or at least thats what you are stating). Lets say Ford disregarded the small percent of people with bad struts, gas tank problems, etc.. it would really **** you off, correct?? While alot of people on here may have these problems, the percentage is small by the total numbers. If there was no internet for people to communicate and discuss these problems, more than likely the percentage would be even lower because people just might not notice these problems. So to say just disregard them is BS.

People need to know up front what they might be getting into. For instance if you buy a 03-04 Cobra you might have the tick on the drivers head, the wrong bolts in the IRS, etc.. and you know this because it has been discussed on a internet forum. So I tell people to do their research and I think thats fair enough. They'll find that most of the self contained Prochargers leak. Bad seals years ago had nothing to do with my 04 Cobra kit nor "O5GT's" 05 GT kit. It's just something that people need to know up front. In my own experience the seal leaked the first week. It was fixed (by me with a better seal) and then the case began leaking and I could not get it to stop. The head unit eventually failed (full of oil) and that was that. I believe the head unit failure was against the norm, but the leak was the norm.

Sad thing is I like alot of the Procharger kits. I was going to buy one for my 350z , but there was huge problems with the 350z owners that had them so I passed. I went against the norm on my 04 Cobra because I liked the power the Procharger made and purchased one. I then found out why everyone pulled them off their car. Even the one guy I shared alot of info with sold his car because he could not get the kit to work right. So here we are again, a nice, powerful kit for the 05 gt and we've already had a seal problem. I'm hoping it works out for the guy and anyone else who buys one so they do not have to share in my misery. I think it's the best looking kit, but I'll hold my judgement until there are a bunch out there without problems. Until then I will suggest people do their research before buying, fair enough???

Thanks Mike

 

Bryan - I can't wait till your write up. I know you'll be honest and thorough.

Good Luck!

 

one thing i can say, ATI has awesome customer service in my experience, vortech also has good service, but misinformed people, whipple were down right ****** and answered the phone "hello?", kennebell wasnt helpful at all either, acted like i was wasting his time, after the phone rang for a minute

 

There are a couple issues I have with what you posted. First off people are having problems with a number of things with the 05 GT... Shaker 1000 skipping, struts popping, fuel tank fill problems etc... I don't however see people getting on the boards telling people not to buy them. As for the procharger seal... If you replaced the seal yourself with a different seal then there is nothing Procharger can do for you. It sounds like you fixed the seal and then overfilled the blower which will cause the internal seal to leak. The seal that is there is not just some inexpensive seal, it is the proper seal for the application and will allow pressure to escape if it builds up. If the pressure couldnt get out there then it could have also blown the internal seal. Maybe if you had sent the blower back to Procharger instead of fixing it yourself you may not have had the problem.

Don't mean to be on the attack, it's just interesting when all of the information is presented. Every company makes mistakes and Procharger has always been one to step up and fix the problem. However they are not going to fix problems created or made worse buy a customer.

Mike Freedman

 

First off I never told anyone not to buy Procharger, I said " do your research. "

Second my point about the GT is people are passing information which helps others make decisions about their vehicle and some will know this before they buy. Please re-read again. My point for the second time is do your research.

Now onto the seal. This is not rocket science. The blower does not even have to be disassembled to do it. Me replacing the seal had nothing to do with it. The case and seal leaked from day one, but I did not realize the case leaked till I removed the blower to replace the seal. I couldn't understand how the oil got back around the blower and originally figured it was air turbulence. Once the seal was replaced the leak stopped there, but the case did not. It was never over filled. Of course I expect no less of a response since thats how I was treated from day one.

Here's how it went down. I bought the blower from a distributor and when it arrived I went over the parts list. First it was odd that it had two list and two manuals and neither completey matched what I had. I was short some bolts so I contacted Procharger and ask them about the missing bolts and the conflicting list. They told me it was on the distributor. So I called the distributor and they blamed Procharger. I called Procharger to complain about the run around and see what I could do. They said it was the distrbutor and they could do nothing. So after three-four weeks of fighting with the distributor and Procharger I finally got my parts (not bolts). Now please remember this is now over a month and a half in and I've been able to drive the car two weeks total.

Now to back track a bit when I called about the seal Procharger led me to believe that I would have to pay for everything (for some reason this unit showed to be sold to someone else at another time). Because I was in a hurry for a event that weekend the tech suggested I do it myself, since I had already replaced some seals before on previous cars. Let me say that again the tech suggested I do it. At this point and time I'm just trying to get my car running as enough is enough. After everything is finally done,on the way to work one day it locked up and unfortunately the impeller hit the case and destroyed itself. Since I was told I didn't have a warranty I was out all that money and time. They would not help me with the distributor who sold me the unit and basically left me out to dry.

I feel the head unit was used when I got it and it was placed in a new kit box. The kit looked new , but the head unit looked like it had been installed. Once everybody got their money nobody helped and it was left up to me. By the way after the the blower had failed I finally recieved the bolts from Procharger, which I had already bought anyway. This is 2 1/2 to 3 months after I bought the kit.

My thing is their service was poor and had they leaned on the distributor in the beginning this could've been fixed up front. They left it in the distrbutors hands and that was that. You however took the approach to blame the consumer without prior knowlegde of me or the situation. I think thats poor judgement, but thats what people do. Again I'm only asking people to do their research. Who knows I like the Procharger kit and if there are no more problems down the road I might give them another try.

Thanks Mike