This is my same logic, and why I chose a Vortech aftercooled unit. Bare in mind you are building some boost before 2,500 rpm, and that your tuner can help low rpm response of the blower with a specific tune. With that and the 4:10's the car will run really nice on the street and will build power VERY quickly.

I was ever so close to a Saleen until my tuner talked me into a Vortech. I would never argue one as being completely dominant over the other - they each have their virtues. With that said, it's hard to argue the value, and performance of a Paxton/Vortech. I paid $4,400 for my polished unit with aftercooler.

 

Except minus the stupid, lol!

 

No no no...it's just that everybody in this thread is saying how low our pricing is...

 

Suppose you could get a Saleen for $4300-4600 delivered ?
I like the Saleen because it is more compact, produces less heat and looks great with my WMS Ram Air configuration.

 

I went to your website and the price listed was $5309.00 for the satin system. Isn't $5500.00 installed a GOOD price?

 

The immediate things that I don't like about the Saleen are:

1- it sits up high. For this kit you also need lower motor mounts (time, $$).

2) From what I've read, the base kit only gets you around 420 horse. Even if you can get a great deal such as $4500, for that same money you could go with a Paxton or Vortech and get 450 to 480 horse. In fact, on JDM's site the Stage 2 kit (450 rwhp) is $6200. Sure they'll probably make a better deal if you call them, but I doubt they're gonna discount it by $1700!

It just seems like a lot of cash for the power you get. JDM seems to go a great job with them, but I think you'll find that the more popular other kits become (Kenne Bell / Whipple; Paxton / Vortech) the less you'll see Saleen kits on the road. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I'm guessing.

 

hmmm,

looking at the Whipple, it appears to be similarly priced on their site as the Magna. I think it has more power potential, too, and is self-contained. The base system puts out 405rwhp at only 6 psi. The HO puts out 475rwhp at only 8psi ! Woah. Not too shabby.

Note to self: Buy base system, upgrade engine internals, upgrade to HO system, and kick some DONKEY!!!

 

Why would you want to kick a defenseless little donkey?

 

Im actually ordering the H.O. kit from brenspeed right after the Hollidays. Looks too good to pass up. Its a very complete Kit, and you also not only get the SCT tuner, which if you already have like I do he knocks the price of the kit down, but you also get his tunes. So hopefully by late January, I will be able to give some feedback !

 

Please DO !!!

I'm just waiting til tax time to pull the trigger!! TOO MANY CHOICES !!

 

Ever been kicked by a donkey? They're far from defenseless! Or so an ***ociate of mine told me...

 

lol...these language filters are hilarious !

 

Sounds good, Brent will treat you right. Let us know how it turns out.

 

It looks like superchargersonline.com have a bunch of installers - there's a link on their site where you can do a lookup for a local installer. Pretty useful.

 

Oops . Thanks!

 

Forgot to mention that, sorry.

 

How much does the full Paxton kit weigh? For those of us interested in handling and weight distribution, the thought of adding 120lbs.to 150lbs. up front isn't too appealing.

I think I've seen specs on the vortech/paxton head units only weighing about 15lbs. or so. The FMIC is probably another 20lbs. (also, no additional coolant weight). How much does the mounting plate weigh? Total added weight is probably in the 50 lb. range? Relocate the battery to the trunk and you break even in weight distribution.

The weight and the heat soak issues of the twin screws and roots seem like they are a big negative for road course/corner carving work.

 

The broad torque curve will make up for that. Where has heat soak been an issue these days?

 

Import Slaya is correct on both counts, the Paxton / Vortech is lighter (I'd guess 50 - 60 lbs total), I'd guess that the paxton is lighter than the Vortech due to the simple system and no coolant. And sure the torque of a + displacement may make up for it in acceleration but that does nothing for the handling balance of the car and that's what we (road racers) are the most concerned about. Heat soak is also less of an issue on the Paxton. The main issue with the heat soak isn't the fact that the blower is directly over the block but instead that a constantly running S/C at WOT may well generate more heat than the liquid intercooler can take away. For 1/4 mile or stoplight drags this is a non issue, because the liquid will take longer to warm up than the duration of the power application, however it's a really big issue in continuous road course hot-lapping and of course racing. That's why I chose a Paxton.

 

Hubec nailed the answer. Once the liquid in the liquid intercooler comes up to temp, it's stays there. At that point, it is as if you aren't running an intercooler and if you are really beatin' it your intercooler actually becomes an interheater.

Not a problem for daily driving or 1/4 mile runs. 30 minutes on a road course and there is a noticable drop in power.