Anybody running the Paxton Novi 2200 s/c that Brenspeed has installed. If so any problems and how do you like the performance. I'm thinking about this unit with his install this spring just wondered who had it and what it was like. Everyone talks about the other brands but not much about this one.

 

I am interested in this one also. I have been seriously considering this unit after income tax return comes in. Looking forward to all responses.

 

You guys need to PM Tom281. I know he has looked into this kit from Brenspeed also. He seems to do his homework and lives pretty close to Brent. I am sure he could help out.
Scott

 

Hey Scott, thanks for the compliment.

It is true that I'm looking very closely at this kit. I will say this- it's hard to ignore everyone else that says to buy a Saleen, Whipple, KB, etc. But I think that some of the reasonings for the other kits are somewhat flawed. I understand that a Roots or Twin Screw blower will likely be "more fun" on the street due to the boost coming on quicker, but IMO, really how fast do you need to go on the street? I mean, my car now with 303 rwhp is pretty darn fast on the street, sometimes enough to get me in trouble with traction problems.

A centrifugal blower like the Paxton will be a rocket when you keep the car in its powerband- for example, like at the strip. I don't see how a Roots or Twin Screw would be any faster or quicker when you're racing ***** to the wall and keeping your car in the powerband. Now, I can see one of the other blowers being more helpful on an auto car, but not a manual. If the Paxton's powerband really starts at 3000 rpm or so, and you're launching a manual trans at 5000 rpm and speedshifting and/or powershifting to keep it in the powerband, you'll be hauling a$$ at the end of the strip.

You also can't argue the fact that the Paxton kit is much more affordable than the other kits out there. For the money saved, you can either add more parts (read: long tube headers, etc.) or just pocket it and be happy. Brenspeed has installed many of these kits, and I can tell you personally that they can get and sell other kits such as the Saleen, but they strongly push against it based off: 1) cost and 2) performance. Have you seen the pricing for the HO Saleen or Whipple kits? From what I've seen they're anywhere from $5200 to $6500 where as you can buy a complete Paxton for $4500, install yourself in a day or so, and have the same if not more horsepower while the amount of torque is comparable in most cases.

Anyway I've probably rambled on enough....... those are my initial thoughts.

 

I agree with tom....

paxton or vortec are lower in cost, they just dont sound as nice as a roots style.

 

Do you think the Paxton is as reliable as the others, I know it's cheaper but I don't want something that gives me trouble either.

 

I am running a JLT CAI and bama chip tune, SLP LT and X pipe and 4.10's.......IF I get a set up from Bren speed, can they email me a tune and or modify the one with the kit to allow for my Xcal2 tuner....the gears, JLT and LT's?????

That is my only hold up is I just cannot order one from summit racing, since my car is so modded, I need to buy one from either folks like Bren or Doug to allow for the mods I have already done. It is either that or spend big bucks for some dyno tune time.....

 

One thing is for sure, Brent at Brenspeed didn't build his business by selling crap that breaks. I talked to Brent candidly about a Procharger for my car; for reasons I won't say publically let's just say that they've sold that brand in the past and they no longer do. Paxton is a good quality name; Brenspeed has sold, installed, and tuned many of these kits. If they were junk, or resulted in disappointed customers, Brent wouldn't sell them.

I saw their '06 shop car race at our local strip running this package- they weren't taking it easy and the car ran right around 12.2- with NO OTHER MODS. Just the Paxton kit and their tune. And it was an automatic- just rolling on the throttle at the start, not revving it high or anything. It was also on the factory tires. The car makes over 440 at the wheels thru the auto trans.

 

Hey tom,

What about what we read a year ago about these stock motors are only good for 450 hp at the flywheel or the connecting rods/pistons start to come apart as you approach 500 hp? That is my only concern and I am sure of others.

 

I'm getting my Paxton installed now. The reasons I chose it are as follows:

• Paxton & Vortech are now the same, this means they may be the largest aftermarket S/C manufacturers in the world right now. Larger doesn't = better, but it helps.
• My tuner is a Vortech guy, and has installed MANY. If you're having a tuner install it, use whatever S/C he has the most experience with.
• I'm a road course guy, not a 1/4 miler. That means I'm concerned with heat buildup, which leads me towards an air to air intercooler and away from any twinscrew/roots install.
• I also like the simplicity of air to air, no coolant, no coolant pump, one less heat exchanger, etc... less to go wrong.
• It's about 1/2 the weight of a cooled roots/twinscrew.
• The high reving nature of a centi fits with my other many breathing mods (she's gonna be a screamer )
• The Paxton is quieter than the Procharger.
• I don't have to worry about changing the blower's oil seperately.

Anyway that's just my opinion, take it for what it's worth...

 

Thanks for the input Tom sounds like a good reliable set-up, as soon as the weather starts to warm up I'll be making a trip to In. to get one installed. For the 450 limit I thought this was rwhp not fly wheel.

 

Remember that the Paxton kit price includes a X2 tuner itself, so the price you see would be less by a couple hundred. Brent would probably email you a tune for your existing tuner; however I know he strongly recommends getting it tuned on a dyno. Likely he would send you a tune to just get you down the road to a local shop, where you could then have it checked and adjusted if necessary.

I think that you'll find that most people are running 425 to 475 horses at the wheels, not the flywheel and not having problems, ASSUMING that the tune is conservative and safe. This goes for Paxtons, Vortechs, Saleens, Whipples, etc. Again, Brent and his guys wouldn't sell and install these kits at these power levels if they thought you'd be blowing engines left & right.

 

Just my thoughts in red.

 

Magnacharger is only $300 more than a paxton but I can get the magna a couple hundred cheaper installed over a paxton. Plus, I wanna hear the SOB

 

The Magnachargers are cool, that's for sure. But it's still hard to beat the price of a Paxton or Vortech.

Pricing from Brenspeed / Livernois Motorsports:
Paxton kit, non-polished: $4600, delivered.
Magnacharger, non polished: $5000, plus shipping on 150lbs....

Paxton kit, polished: $4800, delivered.
Magnacharger, polished: $5700, plus shipping on 150lbs.....

I'm waiting till spring time no matter what I do..... so if alot more Magnachargers start selling and there's more feedback on them, I would consider them if the money allows. But for now its still probably the Paxton for me. If I could get anything, it would be the Brenspeed Hellion turbo kit- that thing is a FRIGGIN' monster.

 

I got a qoute for 4,800 from superchargers online for the magnacharger plus 50 for shipping.

 

I would also love too have a turbo but it seems like there's a lot more room for errors over a S/C, also more spendy. Those vid's of the STS turbo were freakin awesome.

 

That would be a great deal dude, for sure.

 

Just checked and it's actually 4,748.00 for the S/C and 43.25 for shipping. Plus they are doing a special right now and will do the install and everything for 5,200- can't beat that.

 

Who- what vendor?