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black9D5 8/21/12 09:31 AM

The new 5.0s
 
Any of you guys have any luck against a new 5.0s? A Buddy just got one and he hung my 10' out to dry lol what mods would I need to atleast keep up with him? Cause I'm tired of him giving me crap! Lol

B1GP1MP1N 8/21/12 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by black9D5
Any of you guys have any luck against a new 5.0s? A Buddy just got one and he hung my 10' out to dry lol what mods would I need to atleast keep up with him? Cause I'm tired of him giving me crap! Lol

That's what sucks about the 4.6l lol. Time to invest in a supercharger! :)

ShaneGT 8/21/12 11:12 AM

i had a chick in a '10 try and race me yesterday.. when we stopped at the next stop sign, she asked me why i didnt race her... Told her not much of a race when I knew what the out come would be..

She didnt like that comment btw..

mrp5150 8/21/12 11:23 AM

I love my '06, but when I rented one of the '12 GT's it was like a rocket ship in comparison. Tons of fun to drive.

muscledom 8/21/12 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by mrp5150
I love my '06, but when I rented one of the '12 GT's it was like a rocket ship in comparison. Tons of fun to drive.

Yea I saw a guy at the track with a blower and slicks.... running high 10s........ I've probably put like 3k in my car (cams, CAI, LTs, O/R H, ABs, tuner, 410s) and its only a low 13 high 12 sec car. I'd still **** with a 5.0 on the street though. You'd dump on a 5.0, SRT8, or an SS if they can't drive.

ski 8/21/12 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by muscledom (Post 6423489)
You'd dump on a 5.0, SRT8, or an SS if they can't drive.

+1
I beat a new 5.0 with my 05 GT(CAI/tune) in a stoplight dig race from 0-80. He spun a ton, I spun a few ft.

muscledom 8/21/12 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by ski
+1
I beat a new 5.0 with my 05 GT(CAI/tune) in a stoplight dig race from 0-80. He spun a ton, I spun a few ft.

Yea most people have no idea what the **** they're doing. Flooring it and slipping the clutch looks great but it's expensive and slow lol. But there's no bull****ting that they're way faster than our 4.6s.

ThePope 8/21/12 02:27 PM

I raced a few 5.0s'. The best race was 2 1/2 car lengths.

muscledom 8/21/12 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by ThePope
I raced a few 5.0s'. The best race was 2 1/2 car lengths.

Judging by your numbers I'd assume you have a blower, which is cheating lol :P

ThePope 8/21/12 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by muscledom

Judging by your numbers I'd assume you have a blower, which is cheating lol :P

Haha yes I do. Blower plus other goodies :-)

muscledom 8/21/12 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by ThePope

Haha yes I do. Blower plus other goodies :-)

Yea I've been thinking about getting a blower after I pay her off. I'd like to pull the motor, do the heads, get a fresh bore, a forged bottom end, and bolt on a blower all at the same time. :)

Imatk 8/28/12 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by ShaneGT (Post 6423430)
i had a chick in a '10 try and race me yesterday.. when we stopped at the next stop sign, she asked me why i didnt race her... Told her not much of a race when I knew what the out come would be..

She didnt like that comment btw..

I'll race you with my '06 it's not even a new body style or anything ;)

To the OP for you to beat a new 5.0 you're gonna need a blower. Bone stock they are at more than a 100 hp advantage to you.

With a blower that equals out... but then of course if your buddy added a tune you might still be on the losing end of the battle... depending on your driving ability and how much boost you're running.

A guy in a new CS raced me one night... he was, shall we say, VERY surprised at the outcome... you never know what someone has underneath their hood :)

tom281 8/28/12 04:58 PM

There is always someone faster than you.

ShaneGT 8/28/12 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Imatk (Post 6428637)
I'll race you with my '06 it's not even a new body style or anything ;)

:P .. you can tell the Supercharged ones if you know what to listen and look for.. lol

bob 9/3/12 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Imatk (Post 6428637)

To the OP for you to beat a new 5.0 you're gonna need a blower. Bone stock they are at more than a 100 hp advantage to you.

and a gearing advantage (well for manual vs. manual)

TR3650 ratios (05-10 GT)
1st: 3.34
2nd: 2.00
3rd: 1.32
4th: 1.00
5th: .68

MT82 ratios (11+ GT)
1st: 3.66
2nd: 2.43
3rd: 1.69
4th: 1.32
5th: 1.00
6th: 0.65

TR6060 (just for the hell of it - 07-09 GT500)
1st: 2.97
2nd: 1.78
3rd: 1.30
4th: 1.00
5th: 0.80
6th: 0.63

TR6060 (2010 + GT500)
1st: 2.97
2nd:1.78
3rd: 1.30
4th: 1.00
5th: 0.74
6th: 0.50

rivercitypony 9/4/12 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by black9D5 (Post 6423337)
Any of you guys have any luck against a new 5.0s? A Buddy just got one and he hung my 10' out to dry lol what mods would I need to atleast keep up with him? Cause I'm tired of him giving me crap! Lol

See my engine and drivetrain mods to be competitive--right there with a stock 5.0. Add stage II heads for a decent advantage. Or go supercharged. I regularly beat stock 5.0 Mustangs on the street--but not by much. Keep in mind around 150 lbs. of weight reduction helps too. I'd love to drop a 5.0 coyote motor in my car, and mod it similarly. Of course this motor wasn't in production when I had already done most of my mods, but that's progress. Sometimes it's a slap to the face, lol.

Nemesis 9/6/12 04:21 PM

Ha, I've beaten two 5.0s, one from a dig and one from a roll. Mods are bolt ons, tune, driver mod. The one from a roll, probably didn't know what he was doing, the one from a digg had some sort of pipe, shut it down around 80. Gave him a nice surprise. Flame on, but anything can happen on the street. Very capable engine, but hate how cocky they can be, in a bone stock car.

SteedaBrandon 9/7/12 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by black9D5 (Post 6423337)
Any of you guys have any luck against a new 5.0s? A Buddy just got one and he hung my 10' out to dry lol what mods would I need to atleast keep up with him? Cause I'm tired of him giving me crap! Lol

I think the quickest way (no pun intended :jester:) would be some type of forced induction.

Let me know if I can help you with anything. We've got a few different superchargers for it. :)

Gabe 9/7/12 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by tom281 (Post 6428655)
There is always someone faster than you.

^ ... x2 :)


When I ordered/bought this car, I knew I was buying something quick/fast, but something that's still slower than a LOT of cars out there, and MUCH slower than SOME cars out there ... lol

I bought it to enjoy it for myself, not to race everybody in their Escorts/whatever ... and now with the single powertrain mod done so far, the GT500 mufflers, I enjoy it THOROUGHLY every time I get to drive it ... and at a little over 2,000 miles in about 26 days, I guess I am driving it a "tad" ... lol

As a matter of fact, I can't wait to drive it again :D


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