Baginoman2

well i fnally got it dynoed, three runs, and well results werent what im looking for:

1st run was 262.4 hp 275.9 TQ

2nd run 263.6 hp 278.1 TQ

3rd run 263.7 hp 276.8 TQ

horrible, with the mods i have [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif[/img] I should be at least around 280 hp!

My a/f ratio was about 10.2-10.4 [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon24.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon24.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon24.gif[/img]

i need to call my tuner...im pissed [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif[/img]

what do u guys think? SOmething wrong huh?

tom281

Well the good news is your a/f is pretty rich so you should be able to pickup additional power right away from leaning it out. How much? Its hard to say.

I feel your pain.......... my previous disappointment with dyno numbers has been well documented, although its been a couple of months and the car seems to run stronger now. I'll get it back on the dyno this spring.

Good luck,

Tom

Baginoman2

yea it sux man [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crying.gif[/img]

So i should bring my sct xcal back to my tuner huh? tha would be a good idea [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Clem

What kind of dyno? I threw down nearly identical #'s with my mods minus the Borlas which added maybe, uh, 1 hp. This was on a Superflow dyno in the summer on a jungle hot day. You will get a huge range of numbers from differnent dynos. Hit the Dynojets for big #'s!

Baginoman2

it was a dyno jet [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif[/img]

Clem

Oops. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/img]

Baginoman2

yea man...im so confused right now [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/eek.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/headscratch.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif[/img]

Vegasjay

Can you post your Dyno Sheet? It may help to see what's going on...With that A/F ratio you have quite a bit of tuning work to do. IMO you could gain a good bit with a propper tune. Do you know what your timing was at WOT??

Baginoman2

yea ill get the dyno sheet for ya

Baginoman2

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7864/ye...sssssssssss.png

there it is [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smilies23.gif[/img]

let me get a better pic, cant really c that one [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif[/img]

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5755/dynosheet3ce.png

there [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Vegasjay

This is just my humble opinion and I'm no expert....I would have your tuner set your A/F ratio at 12.5 - 12.9 at WOT, that should gain you power right there. Do you know your total timing at WOT??? If not you can datalog it to find out. On a N/A car with your mod's I would advance it to about 28 - 30 degrees at WOT. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img]

Baginoman2

well i asked them if they adjust it at their place and they said they dont, so i have to send my xcal back to my tuner? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif[/img]

Vegasjay

Send your dyno sheet with your SCT and find out your total degree's of timing and have him adjust it if necessary...There is more power in there.

Baginoman2

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Vegasjay @ February 24, 2006, 10:06 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Send your dyno sheet with your SCT and find out your total degree's of timing and have him adjust it if necessary...There is more power in there.
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yep have the dyno sheet, and the xcal2 in the box ready to send to him, whenever he writes back [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/headscratch.gif[/img]

hey how would i find out the total degree's of timing? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif[/img]

Vegasjay

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Baginoman2 @ February 24, 2006, 8:09 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
yep have the dyno sheet, and the xcal2 in the box ready to send to him, whenever he writes back [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/headscratch.gif[/img]

hey how would i find out the total degree's of timing? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif[/img]
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Do a search on "Data-logging" . I haven't done it yet on my SCT 2...I used to do it on my Predator all the time. I know it can be done, you might want to check out the manual and do a search on here. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img]

Baginoman2

found some topics on Data-logging..but nothings helping.. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif[/img]

BigWorm2005GT

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Baginoman2 @ February 24, 2006, 5:50 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
well i fnally got it dynoed, three runs, and well results werent what im looking for:

1st run was 262.4 hp 275.9 TQ

2nd run 263.6 hp 278.1 TQ

3rd run 263.7 hp 276.8 TQ

horrible, with the mods i have [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif[/img] I should be at least around 280 hp!

My a/f ratio was about 10.2-10.4 [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon24.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon24.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon24.gif[/img]

i need to call my tuner...im pissed [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif[/img]

what do u guys think? SOmething wrong huh?
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Joe,

I noticed you have an automatic, and I didn't see this in the thread anywhere, so let me ask this: What gear did they do the dyno run in? When I first had mine dyno'ed, the shop was not aware that our cars have a 5-speed automatic, so they did the dyno pulls in 3rd gear. When I went back and had the runs done in 4th, the proper gear, it showed a marked increase. Your shop may not know which gear to dyno in.

Just a thought.

Eric

Baginoman2

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BigWorm2005GT @ February 25, 2006, 1:20 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Joe,

I noticed you have an automatic, and I didn't see this in the thread anywhere, so let me ask this: What gear did they do the dyno run in? When I first had mine dyno'ed, the shop was not aware that our cars have a 5-speed automatic, so they did the dyno pulls in 3rd gear. When I went back and had the runs done in 4th, the proper gear, it showed a marked increase. Your shop may not know which gear to dyno in.

Just a thought.

Eric
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hmm i sure they knew it was an auto, i did not check what gear it was in.. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/headscratch.gif[/img]

man i need to fix this problem, cause im gettin stressed out [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nonono.gif[/img]

BigWorm2005GT

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Baginoman2 @ February 25, 2006, 11:22 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
hmm i sure they knew it was an auto, i did not check what gear it was in.. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/headscratch.gif[/img]

man i need to fix this problem, cause im gettin stressed out [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nonono.gif[/img]
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[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/04.gif[/img] I'm sure they noticed it was an auto, as well, but the Mustang model prior to ours with an automatic was a 4-speed auto, with 4th being the Overdrive gear, and 3rd as the 1:1 gear. On ours, 5th is the Overdrive gear, and 4th is the 1:1 gear, which is the right one to use for dyno-testing.

Just ask them which gear they used for dyno-testing and you'll have your answer. And, don't get too stressed about the numbers! Remember, what counts is that you have fun driving it! Numbers are just that... numbers. Speaking for myself, I get a lot bigger smile on my face mashing down on the "pedal on the right" than looking at a dyno chart.

Good luck! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img]

Eric

stkdidy

the huge fall in power and torque at 2750rpm shows one place where you could instantly gain 15+ in both categories by leveling out the A/F. that and leaning it out all the way through the rpms would make you much happier number-wise