JLT cold air intake - The Mustang Source - Ford Mustang Forums

Notices
GT Performance Mods 2005+ Mustang GT Performance and Technical Information

JLT cold air intake

Reply

 
 
 
Old 7/17/12, 01:42 AM
  #1  
GT Member
Thread Starter
 
OHYEANICE's Avatar
 
Join Date: August 9, 2011
Location: Dallas, Tx
Posts: 144
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
JLT cold air intake

Does anyone know the HP gains with the JLT CAI? Its the one that doesnt require a tune. I want to get a SCT handheld but idk if it worth buying that exact cold air intake. BTW is only $150 from a guy i know.. Thanks
OHYEANICE is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 7/23/12, 10:43 AM
  #2  
Banned
 
Join Date: July 28, 2004
Posts: 848
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by OHYEANICE View Post
Does anyone know the HP gains with the JLT CAI? Its the one that doesnt require a tune. I want to get a SCT handheld but idk if it worth buying that exact cold air intake. BTW is only $150 from a guy i know.. Thanks
JLT hasn't/doesn't make No-tuning required air intakes, I've called to verify this. I've written tunes for Series 1,2, and 3.

We can write tunes for any Air Intake on the market today, including JLT. Although if you're looking to buy a Air-intake/Tuner combo we can offer you either our C&L Street or C&L Racer intake along with either the SCT or Diablosport Handheld tuner.

If you buy a used tuner we can also write custom tunes for it and email them to you that will be 100%.


Just let me know how I can help!!

Thanks, Doug

Last edited by [email protected]&L; 7/23/12 at 10:55 AM.
Doug@C&L is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 7/23/12, 12:23 PM
  #3  
Mach 1 Member
 
Join Date: June 24, 2011
Location: Delaware
Posts: 755
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mine sounds cool, but actual power? Im not sure MAYBE 1-2hp but it looks cool lol and you need a tune.
slostang is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 7/24/12, 05:44 PM
  #4  
Banned
 
Join Date: July 28, 2004
Posts: 848
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The JLT intake with proper tuning will make around 20-25 rwhp. I've tuned and dynoed alot of these kits.

Thanks, Doug
Doug@C&L is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 7/24/12, 05:57 PM
  #5  
Bullitt Member
 
Join Date: August 4, 2011
Posts: 447
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
most the HP gain is from the tune, not the CAI.... i have one and i got about what slostang said 1-2HP of course im going back to the dyno tommrow for some more tuning work, i'm currently at 430 RWHP....
Resolution78 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 7/24/12, 06:18 PM
  #6  
Bear Eats King...
Bear ****s Bone
 
texastboneking's Avatar
 
Join Date: September 5, 2011
Location: Cleburne, Tx
Posts: 3,744
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by [email protected]&L
The JLT intake with proper tuning will make around 20-25 rwhp. I've tuned and dynoed alot of these kits.

Thanks, Doug
The intake alone makes that power? Or the new timing charts, knock sensor charts and fuel trim charts plus the intake make that power?
texastboneking is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 7/25/12, 04:45 PM
  #7  
Mach 1 Member
 
tu3218's Avatar
 
Join Date: September 16, 2011
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 534
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by texastboneking View Post
The intake alone makes that power? Or the new timing charts, knock sensor charts and fuel trim charts plus the intake make that power?
The tune allows for the extra intake of air going into the engine to be utilized, therefore giving more power. Without the tune, the engine can't accommodate the extra air coming in and does very little with it. The tune adjusts the engine so it can make use of more air coming in and delivers the gains they say.
tu3218 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 7/25/12, 05:59 PM
  #8  
Banned
 
Join Date: July 28, 2004
Posts: 848
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The reason for the tuning is the size of the JLT MAF housing. It is tremendously larger then stock as well as the cone filter flows better then the stock flat paper filter.

I cannot give a number for the kit alone for the above reason, you cannot run the JLT without a tune but with a tune on a stock GT I get about 15-17hp so I'd say the intake would be worth about 10-12 rwhp on top of the tune.

Thanks, Doug
Doug@C&L is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 7/26/12, 01:07 AM
  #9  
Bear Eats King...
Bear ****s Bone
 
texastboneking's Avatar
 
Join Date: September 5, 2011
Location: Cleburne, Tx
Posts: 3,744
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by [email protected]&L
The reason for the tuning is the size of the JLT MAF housing. It is tremendously larger then stock as well as the cone filter flows better then the stock flat paper filter.

I cannot give a number for the kit alone for the above reason, you cannot run the JLT without a tune but with a tune on a stock GT I get about 15-17hp so I'd say the intake would be worth about 10-12 rwhp on top of the tune.

Thanks, Doug
Good thing you added this... also. The jlt doesn't have as high of a micron rating as the OEM filter does therefore letting in more air... and dust
texastboneking is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 7/26/12, 06:40 AM
  #10  
Mach 1 Member
 
Tucker's Avatar
 
Join Date: February 19, 2005
Posts: 674
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by slostang View Post
Mine sounds cool, but actual power? Im not sure MAYBE 1-2hp but it looks cool lol and you need a tune.
Originally Posted by Resolution78 View Post
most the HP gain is from the tune, not the CAI.... i have one and i got about what slostang said 1-2HP of course im going back to the dyno tommrow for some more tuning work, i'm currently at 430 RWHP....
Not true.
Even though this is in the 05-09 section and you guys have 2012's the answer is still the same.
On average 50% of the gain comes from the tune and 50% from the added air the intake gives.
Most tunes on a 05-09 and 11-13 will net you about 15 +/- RWHP and then adding an intake will net you an additional 15 +/- RWHP.
No tune only or intake only will net you 25-30 RWHP, but together you can get there.
We have tested this over and over, but so do our customers.
Below is a JLT customer who did a before and after of a tuned 2011 then added the JLT on the dyno:


Originally Posted by texastboneking View Post
Good thing you added this... also. The jlt doesn't have as high of a micron rating as the OEM filter does therefore letting in more air... and dust
We only use the best S&B filters!

Thanks Jay
Attached Thumbnails JLT cold air intake-greg-hollad-results.jpg  
Tucker is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 7/26/12, 09:24 AM
  #11  
Bullitt Member
 
Join Date: August 4, 2011
Posts: 447
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sorry didnt notice was for 05-09, they may get alittle more than the 2011-12..... and for the 2011-12 im sure i have no clue what im talking about its not like my signature has the mods listed in it, andi did quit a few dyno runs to test everything....... Mike Dez is a good friend and a mustang specialist
Resolution78 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 7/27/12, 10:04 PM
  #12  
Member
 
Poolboy-'88 LSC's Avatar
 
Join Date: March 13, 2008
Location: Canandaigua, NY
Posts: 39
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by [email protected]&L View Post
JLT hasn't/doesn't make No-tuning required air intakes, I've called to verify this. I've written tunes for Series 1,2, and 3.

We can write tunes for any Air Intake on the market today, including JLT. Although if you're looking to buy a Air-intake/Tuner combo we can offer you either our C&L Street or C&L Racer intake along with either the SCT or Diablosport Handheld tuner.

If you buy a used tuner we can also write custom tunes for it and email them to you that will be 100%.


Just let me know how I can help!!

Thanks, Doug
I still have the Diablosport tuner from my old SVT Focus. Could it be re-programmed to be used on my 05 Mustang GT?
Poolboy-'88 LSC is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 7/30/12, 01:53 PM
  #13  
Banned
 
Join Date: July 28, 2004
Posts: 848
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Poolboy-'88 LSC View Post
I still have the Diablosport tuner from my old SVT Focus. Could it be re-programmed to be used on my 05 Mustang GT?

No, the predators are vehicle line specific, your Focus predator will only work with other focus, The 05-09 Mustang GT, V6 and GT500 are a different part number predator.

Thanks, Doug
Doug@C&L is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 8/2/12, 09:15 AM
  #14  
Member
 
Poolboy-'88 LSC's Avatar
 
Join Date: March 13, 2008
Location: Canandaigua, NY
Posts: 39
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
**** and I was hoping to save a little money.
Poolboy-'88 LSC is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 5/4/18, 03:34 AM
  #15  
GT Member
 
Jcreek79's Avatar
 
Join Date: April 6, 2016
Location: Erie, PA
Posts: 136
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Should I upgrade to a JLT series 3, if I already have a K&N intake?

Last edited by Jcreek79; 5/4/18 at 02:57 PM.
Jcreek79 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 5/4/18, 02:59 PM
  #16  
GTR Member
 
m05fastbackGT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 11, 2006
Location: Carnegie, PA
Posts: 6,130
Thanked 216 Times in 206 Posts
Originally Posted by Jcreek79 View Post
Should I upgrade to a JLT series 3, if o I alrea have a K&N intake?
Just so you're fully aware, you just revived an old thread in which nobody has posted on for nearly 6 years. As for your question, The JLT series 3 requires retuning your car's PCM due that the JLT 3 has a much larger 110mm MAF housing over your K&N intake which has the same MAF housing size as factory/stock that doesn't require re-flashing your PCM. Therefore should you upgrade? well, that's entirely your choice as it comes down to personal preference as to what your expectations/goals are towards what you want to accomplish. Just keep in mind, that if you're expecting to get the most performance gains from a CAI? there's very little to be gained or if any at all from those non-tune intakes, as most of your HP/Torque gains, come from the tune re-flash and not from the CAI by itself!
m05fastbackGT is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 5/4/18, 03:10 PM
  #17  
GT Member
 
Jcreek79's Avatar
 
Join Date: April 6, 2016
Location: Erie, PA
Posts: 136
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Yes I'm aware of the thread's age but the likelihood of starting a new thread only to get flamed for not searching won out in my mind.

Thanks for the info, guess I'll save up for a real intake.
Jcreek79 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 5/4/18, 04:01 PM
  #18  
GTR Member
 
m05fastbackGT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 11, 2006
Location: Carnegie, PA
Posts: 6,130
Thanked 216 Times in 206 Posts
Also, keep in mind, you'll also need a handheld tuner/programmer like the SCT X-4 along with the JLT Series 3 CAI that includes the tune re-flash for it as you'll also be required to save your factory tune into the device before you can upload the CAI tuning file into your car's OBDII port.
m05fastbackGT is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10/11/18, 01:57 PM
  #19  
Member
 
stang09's Avatar
 
Join Date: July 29, 2017
Posts: 30
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Hello [email protected] & L
I bought a cold air intake for my 09 mustang gt but the cover bracket is only held by one screw bolt on the bottom right and you have two holes on the top left that can't be bolted to make it more stable. I purchase it from American muscle do you have any ideas.
stang09 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10/12/18, 05:27 AM
  #20  
Cobra R Member
 
Bert's Avatar
 
Join Date: January 25, 2010
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,651
Thanked 93 Times in 88 Posts
Originally Posted by Jcreek79 View Post
Should I upgrade to a JLT series 3, if I already have a K&N intake?
My understanding is: JLT is one of the "best" and K&N is one of the "worst" aftermarket intakes. So yes the JLT should provide some gains over the K&N. The only one who can decide it if is worth it, is you.

Like m05 said, the JLT will require a tune, because the tube is bigger than stock. So you should be budgeting for the intake, tuner, and tunes; you can buy them together from some of the resellers; or you could have a local dyno tuner do the tuning, but it will probably cost more.

The gains for the intake and tune are probably somewhere in the 20 HP ballpark, give or take . . . but remember there are no guarantees; do it for the fun of it, not because you are expecting some exact gain and will be all bummed out if you don't get it.
Bert is online now  
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: JLT cold air intake


Featured Sponsors

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.