OHYEANICE

Does anyone know the HP gains with the JLT CAI? Its the one that doesnt require a tune. I want to get a SCT handheld but idk if it worth buying that exact cold air intake. BTW is only $150 from a guy i know.. Thanks

Doug@C&L

JLT hasn't/doesn't make No-tuning required air intakes, I've called to verify this. I've written tunes for Series 1,2, and 3.

We can write tunes for any Air Intake on the market today, including JLT. Although if you're looking to buy a Air-intake/Tuner combo we can offer you either our C&L Street or C&L Racer intake along with either the SCT or Diablosport Handheld tuner.

If you buy a used tuner we can also write custom tunes for it and email them to you that will be 100%.


Just let me know how I can help!!

Thanks, Doug

slostang

Mine sounds cool, but actual power? Im not sure MAYBE 1-2hp but it looks cool lol and you need a tune.

Doug@C&L

The JLT intake with proper tuning will make around 20-25 rwhp. I've tuned and dynoed alot of these kits.

Thanks, Doug

Resolution78

most the HP gain is from the tune, not the CAI.... i have one and i got about what slostang said 1-2HP of course im going back to the dyno tommrow for some more tuning work, i'm currently at 430 RWHP....

texastboneking

The intake alone makes that power? Or the new timing charts, knock sensor charts and fuel trim charts plus the intake make that power?

tu3218

The tune allows for the extra intake of air going into the engine to be utilized, therefore giving more power. Without the tune, the engine can't accommodate the extra air coming in and does very little with it. The tune adjusts the engine so it can make use of more air coming in and delivers the gains they say.

Doug@C&L

The reason for the tuning is the size of the JLT MAF housing. It is tremendously larger then stock as well as the cone filter flows better then the stock flat paper filter.

I cannot give a number for the kit alone for the above reason, you cannot run the JLT without a tune but with a tune on a stock GT I get about 15-17hp so I'd say the intake would be worth about 10-12 rwhp on top of the tune.

Thanks, Doug

texastboneking

Good thing you added this... also. The jlt doesn't have as high of a micron rating as the OEM filter does therefore letting in more air... and dust

Tucker

Not true.
Even though this is in the 05-09 section and you guys have 2012's the answer is still the same.
On average 50% of the gain comes from the tune and 50% from the added air the intake gives.
Most tunes on a 05-09 and 11-13 will net you about 15 +/- RWHP and then adding an intake will net you an additional 15 +/- RWHP.
No tune only or intake only will net you 25-30 RWHP, but together you can get there.
We have tested this over and over, but so do our customers.
Below is a JLT customer who did a before and after of a tuned 2011 then added the JLT on the dyno:


We only use the best S&B filters!

Thanks Jay

Resolution78

Sorry didnt notice was for 05-09, they may get alittle more than the 2011-12..... and for the 2011-12 im sure i have no clue what im talking about its not like my signature has the mods listed in it, andi did quit a few dyno runs to test everything....... Mike Dez is a good friend and a mustang specialist

Poolboy-'88 LSC

I still have the Diablosport tuner from my old SVT Focus. Could it be re-programmed to be used on my 05 Mustang GT?

Doug@C&L

No, the predators are vehicle line specific, your Focus predator will only work with other focus, The 05-09 Mustang GT, V6 and GT500 are a different part number predator.

Thanks, Doug

Poolboy-'88 LSC

**** and I was hoping to save a little money.

Jcreek79

Should I upgrade to a JLT series 3, if I already have a K&N intake?

m05fastbackGT

Just so you're fully aware, you just revived an old thread in which nobody has posted on for nearly 6 years. As for your question, The JLT series 3 requires retuning your car's PCM due that the JLT 3 has a much larger 110mm MAF housing over your K&N intake which has the same MAF housing size as factory/stock that doesn't require re-flashing your PCM. Therefore should you upgrade? well, that's entirely your choice as it comes down to personal preference as to what your expectations/goals are towards what you want to accomplish. Just keep in mind, that if you're expecting to get the most performance gains from a CAI? there's very little to be gained or if any at all from those non-tune intakes, as most of your HP/Torque gains, come from the tune re-flash and not from the CAI by itself!

Jcreek79

Yes I'm aware of the thread's age but the likelihood of starting a new thread only to get flamed for not searching won out in my mind.

Thanks for the info, guess I'll save up for a real intake.

m05fastbackGT

Also, keep in mind, you'll also need a handheld tuner/programmer like the SCT X-4 along with the JLT Series 3 CAI that includes the tune re-flash for it as you'll also be required to save your factory tune into the device before you can upload the CAI tuning file into your car's OBDII port.

stang09

Hello Doug@C & L
I bought a cold air intake for my 09 mustang gt but the cover bracket is only held by one screw bolt on the bottom right and you have two holes on the top left that can't be bolted to make it more stable. I purchase it from American muscle do you have any ideas.

Bert

My understanding is: JLT is one of the "best" and K&N is one of the "worst" aftermarket intakes. So yes the JLT should provide some gains over the K&N. The only one who can decide it if is worth it, is you.

Like m05 said, the JLT will require a tune, because the tube is bigger than stock. So you should be budgeting for the intake, tuner, and tunes; you can buy them together from some of the resellers; or you could have a local dyno tuner do the tuning, but it will probably cost more.

The gains for the intake and tune are probably somewhere in the 20 HP ballpark, give or take . . . but remember there are no guarantees; do it for the fun of it, not because you are expecting some exact gain and will be all bummed out if you don't get it.