First off I'm very new to this so forgive me if I ask a question wrong or even worse ask a question that is just down right stupid.....lol.....sorry in advance.

I just bought my first mustang ever. It is an 07 gt. It is grabber orange, has a boss stripe kit, rear louver and a cdc shaker (pics are in my intro thread).

I need advice about staying N/A or going with a supercharger and then what to do after making that decision as far as which charger or what headers, cams.....etc...if I stay N/A.

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1. GOING WITH A SUPERCHARGER:

I've been told by some that if I go supercharger I will have to ditch the cdc shaker. Is that true? If it is then I most likely will stay N/A. I love the look of the shaker. If I can go with a supercharger and keep the shaker which supercharger would work?

I have heard of a supercharger called the "supershaker" but was told they stopped making them. Does anyone know if the supershaker is still being made and sold? Does anyone here have one now? If so, how do you like it? What other mods do you have and what are your numbers? What could I expect with a supershaker on a stock motor?

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2. STAYING N/A:

If I decide to stay N/A would the following be a good starting point? If not will someone please give me a good example of a build that would put me at 400+ rwhp while staying N/A. If I'm dreaming just pinch me and tell me like it is...lol.

++I'M NOT SURE ABOUT BRANDS AS I KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT IT++

What kind of numbers should I look to get with the following?

tuner
cam (500 to 600 lift range)
stall (3000 to 4000 range)
mid length headers (clearence issues with my driveway)
off road H pipes (not sure about which mufflers)
everything else including heads would remain stock.

Now, take the above N/A and add a good set of flowing aftermarket heads to it. How much of a difference would it make in hp/tq?

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Again forgive me if I ask stupid questions. I just joined this site and I know next to nothing. I have read a lot in the last couple days since I bought my car last weekend so I'm learning here and there as best I can.

Thank you for any and all advice.

Rake

 

There's a car on eBay that may give you a good heads up and ideas on a possible build.

2005 Saleen SC with a Super Shaker hood. Tuned at a conservative 465hp but supports 550hp.

 

I would love to have that kind of rwhp with good tq to boot.

Thanks..

Rake

 

If you get a centrifugal supercharger like vortech,Paxton, pro charger, etc many people have kept their shaker. It's when you get twin screw, is when you get screwed. Unless you buy the Saleen one. Here is mine to give you an idea.

 

True. I would look onto the Saleen SC for that reason but also its flexibility. Not to mention you can find some deals on them if you look around.

Nice set up!

 

I was gona stay NA,installed CAI, headers, cams ,gears, high stall tc , was gona get a 302 stroker kit amd head port,but these mustang dont like to stay nA,they love boost,with gears,a high stall tc,a centri has enough low torque to shred the tires and it gets up to the upper rpms very quickly, I have the paxton novi 2200 (wich is bigger then the v3 vortech)installed and I love it,cant go wrong with it,I have it for sale in case your instrested,complete kit with intercooler

 

Brenspeed still shows a Saleen supershaker for sale.

http://www.brenspeed.com/supershaker.html

 

I hope you don't mind me asking all these questions. If you do not want to answer I understand.

1. Which brand/size supercharger do you have and where did you buy it?
2. Did you do the install?
3. What brand tuner did you use or did you go to a shop?
4. How many miles you got on the charger?
5. Have you had any problems since the charger install?
6. What other mods do you have?
7. What are your rwhp/tq numbers?
8. Do you go to the track? If so, what are your times?

I looked at the supershaker on the brenspeed site. I really like it even though it seems it does not put as much power out as the Paxton or Vortec.

I looked for the Pro charger on there but could not find it. I guess brenspeed does offer that particular supercharger for what ever reason.

Why does the Paxton and Vortec give better power than the supershaker? I've heard that Paxton and Vortec are the same. Is that true?

Anyway, thanks for the tips and any further advice you can think of. I am most thankful as it very well may keep me from spending money going down the wrong road.

BTW, I have heard from so many that the supershaker is not being made anymore but then again brenspeed has them for sale it seems on their site so they must have a source to them or they would not advertise them for sell or at least I wouldn't think they would.

Rake

 

It's the Paxton Novi 2200 HO, my current set up is the supercharger, brisk plugs, MSD coil packs, brenspeed tune, and magnaflow catback exhaust. I plan on looking at a GT500 tb and Steeda motion plates next. There is a guy above who is selling his set up. There are company's out there that you can buy tunes from. Brenspeed is a good place to look! They are two hours away from me, and always deliver. Twin screw blowers do make lots of power, but I believe that centrifugal blowers can make more depending on the set up. Yes I did the install, took my time to make sure I did everything correct. Look around on the Internet, call some dealers they will help you. Overall it depends on about two things, your goal for the car and how deep you wallet is. Boy this is a lot of typing... There is about 1500 miles on the blower now, no problems. You just have to take care of the blower, mine is not a Self lubing blower it has an oil line to the oil pan. Hope I helped!!

 

I keep looking at your post and seeing what I forget to answer! Yes Paxton and Vortech are the same company. Paxton was bought by Vortech, although Paxton blowers have been since the 1940s. My younger brother just picked up a Scion FRS ( yes I know, an import on a muscle car forum, still a good fun car!) we are about to install a vortech supercharger on it. Shows that I like their products!

 

Centrifugal and Vortech is the way to go. However, I would still recommend brenspeed/Saleen if its mandatory that you keep your shaker and hood.

Otherwise check out Vortech..and don't forget to visit Kenny Bell.

 

Yes, you helped. Thank you very much!

I would really like to keep my shaker or at least put something in it's place.

I have a budget of 12k to work with until end October at which point I will have around 2k more to put with it. After that I'm not sure I would be willing to put much more into the same car.....then again who knows?

After all I'm not wanting to make a drag car I do however want a car that is as mean as possible and still be somewhat a driver.

Again, thanks for you input.

Rake

 

Thanks for the link.

I was told by several people lately that the supershaker is no longer available. That makes me wonder why brenspeed still shows it for sale. Maybe they have a source that some do not know about.

Thanks,

Rake

 

I've have heard that these motors don't like to stay n/a over stock as well. Why is that?

A guy from comp cams told me that my motor was not the best motor to put a large cam in for what ever reason. I'm no gearhead by far so I have no idea why he would say that.

Even though I love the sound of a well built N/A motor I may go with a supercharger and leave the motor stock for now. It's a very hard decision to make even though the N/A way seems to be much more $$$'er for what I want.

I would be content with 450 to 475 rwhp/tq especially if the stock motor would handle it long term. Long term is a concern for me as well. I don't want to put 8, 10 or 12k in my car and then turn around and have to do it again. I don't mind spending big bucks if I know it will be there years from now.

Rake

EDIT:

I forgot ask about the supercharger you have for sale. If you like you can send me all the specs on it and what all comes with it and how much you want for it through a PM.

BTW, I'm in Florence, Alabama. Where are you?

 

You will make that with the blower. Keep in mind tho, that you'll crave more power soon after lol.

 

There

 

Is that a supershaker or is that a Paxton supercharger with a regular shaker hood?

If you don't mind me asking what are your hp/tq numbers?

Thanks!

Rake

 

Paxton with a shaker. I can't tell you at the moment.

 

Dunno how close you are to Northen Indiana but if you let Brenspeed do the install on any SC, they have a House close by that they let you stay in for the time it takes to install for free.
Also the Saleen can make more power with a small diameter pulley. A twin screw has a continous power band all the way though the RPM, A centi SC (vortech) has to spool up and it makes most of its power in the mid to higher rpm.
I have had a Saleen SC on my Mustang for over 20,000 miles with no problems. I installed it myself and had Brenspeed do a Dyno tune for me. I'm at 452 hp at the wheels with 435tq.

Good luck with whatever you do.

 

Thanks. Very nice set up you have there. I'm jealous!!!