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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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Hurst Short Throw Shifters

I'm looking to install a Hurst Short Throw shifter on my GT, but I'm stuck on billet vs. steel.

Has anyone tried the billet recently?
Anyone have experience with both shifters?
How about some pros and cons of each.

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Mike
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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Since you are new, we'll go easy on you

Try using the search function. This is a very popular topic on the forums.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 11:09 AM
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yep the search at the top of page works type in Hurt Shifter lots of topic
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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I have had the Hurst competition shifter for about 8 months but recently swapped it out for the MGW. I am very serious about this, I can save you quite alot of time, money, and aggrevation on this subject. Go with the MGW. Research the threads and you will see what I mean. I went with Hurst for the classic look thinking I was getting top quality, I did not know what quality was till I put in the MGW. I am one of few who have had both. It has been a very hotly debated topic on this forum. My advice for what it is worth is get the MGW and put a Hurst **** on it if you want. YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT!
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
I have had the Hurst competition shifter for about 8 months but recently swapped it out for the MGW. I am very serious about this, I can save you quite alot of time, money, and aggrevation on this subject. Go with the MGW. Research the threads and you will see what I mean. I went with Hurst for the classic look thinking I was getting top quality, I did not know what quality was till I put in the MGW. I am one of few who have had both. It has been a very hotly debated topic on this forum. My advice for what it is worth is get the MGW and put a Hurst **** on it if you want. YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT!
I wanted the Hurst, but I think I will fork out the extra cash for the MGW. At least I know I will be getting the best shifter out there.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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Aww jeeze, sorry guys.

I did try a search before I posted this and only came up with a few posts from last summer.
(am now thinking I had too many words in the search bar)

Thanks for the heads up.
Seems I've got some reading to do.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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No problem. Some tried to tell me early on and I didn't believe them. If anyone out there has had both and doesn't think the MGW is at least $100 better, I'd like to hear them right now!
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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Aww jeeze, sorry guys.

I did try a search before I posted this and only came up with a few posts from last summer.
(am now thinking I had too many words in the search bar)

Thanks for the heads up.
Seems I've got some reading to do.
Hahaha. Its quite alright. We are always here to help.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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The new Billet Hurst shifter is every bit as nice as the MGW shifter in terms of build materials.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
I have had the Hurst competition shifter for about 8 months but recently swapped it out for the MGW. I am very serious about this, I can save you quite alot of time, money, and aggrevation on this subject. Go with the MGW. Research the threads and you will see what I mean. I went with Hurst for the classic look thinking I was getting top quality, I did not know what quality was till I put in the MGW. I am one of few who have had both. It has been a very hotly debated topic on this forum. My advice for what it is worth is get the MGW and put a Hurst **** on it if you want. YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT!
I also went through the exact same thing except the hurst shifter I had (and many others have had) was a complete peice of crap. It would bind horribly when power shifting and there was a MAJOR flaw with the shifting handle that would make it come lose and wiggle all over the place. I also got the MGW and have become one of the biggest MGW nutswingers around. It is unequivically thee BEST engineered shifter available for 05+ mustangs. The fitment, quality, adjustability and feel are not matched with any other shifter on the market.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 05:33 AM
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I also went through the exact same thing except the hurst shifter I had (and many others have had) was a complete peice of crap. It would bind horribly when power shifting and there was a MAJOR flaw with the shifting handle that would make it come lose and wiggle all over the place. I also got the MGW and have become one of the biggest MGW nutswingers around. It is unequivically thee BEST engineered shifter available for 05+ mustangs. The fitment, quality, adjustability and feel are not matched with any other shifter on the market.
Man, I didn't realize that other people had problems w/ the shifter coming loose on the hurst. Any time I try to power shift or run it hard I have to tighten it back up. I aways keep an allen wrench w/me.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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Well there are many people on this and other forums who love their Hurst shifter. Hey, don't get me wrong, the MGW is a very nice shifter but most of the people on this board are NOT comparing apples to apples. A much more realistic comparison is the MGW to the Hurst Billet version which has only been in the marketplace a couple months. You can't make a fair comparison on the quality of an MGW shifter to that of the standard Hurst competition plus. However, it is also very fair to say that MGW probably sells a few hundred of these shifters with miminal issues...Thats great...But, Hurst sells thousands of them with i'm guessing is much the same small percentages of complaints if you factor in the volume of units sold to returns of both brands.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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Man, I didn't realize that other people had problems w/ the shifter coming loose on the hurst. Any time I try to power shift or run it hard I have to tighten it back up. I aways keep an allen wrench w/me.
Yea I tried swapping the bolts for longer ones with aircraft grade locking nuts AND red locktight and it still broke lose. I finally gave up and bought the MGW. I nearly crapped at the difference just looking at the two side by side letalone once I got to use it.
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Well there are many people on this and other forums who love their Hurst shifter. Hey, don't get me wrong, the MGW is a very nice shifter but most of the people on this board are NOT comparing apples to apples. A much more realistic comparison is the MGW to the Hurst Billet version which has only been in the marketplace a couple months. You can't make a fair comparison on the quality of an MGW shifter to that of the standard Hurst competition plus. However, it is also very fair to say that MGW probably sells a few hundred of these shifters with miminal issues...Thats great...But, Hurst sells thousands of them with i'm guessing is much the same small percentages of complaints if you factor in the volume of units sold to returns of both brands.
I absolutely agree the NEW hurst billet shifter is lightyears better than the standard competition plus. That being said, I'd say for all the extra adjustability of the mgw along with the added foam and dynamat, and ability to use either new s197 ***** or the old style ***** (if you get both style handles) gives the mgw the advantage.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by subzero05
Well there are many people on this and other forums who love their Hurst shifter. Hey, don't get me wrong, the MGW is a very nice shifter but most of the people on this board are NOT comparing apples to apples. A much more realistic comparison is the MGW to the Hurst Billet version which has only been in the marketplace a couple months. You can't make a fair comparison on the quality of an MGW shifter to that of the standard Hurst competition plus. However, it is also very fair to say that MGW probably sells a few hundred of these shifters with miminal issues...Thats great...But, Hurst sells thousands of them with i'm guessing is much the same small percentages of complaints if you factor in the volume of units sold to returns of both brands.
Sounds like someone who has sold and is currently selling Hurst shifters here on this forum. I am comparing what I have used, stock, Hurst Competition Plus, and MGW. Perhaps Hurst should only sell Billet Shifter then because the Competition Plus isn't worth it.

Don't believe the Hurst hype. They have the Billet in my opinion because the Comp was such crap. MGW's design and manufacture is great to start with. Hurst had their shot with my wallet, I'm not going to make another mistake and buy from them.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 09:50 AM
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For those that are wondering. Here's a pic that shows just how far off the handle is on the hurst competition plus from fitting properly. I honestly don't know how this passed the R&D stage let alone "quality" control. This much of a gap = about a good 3/4" movement at the ****. And yes I tried a bolt with a shoulder but couldn't find one in 10 different hardware stores that was the right length, with the right threading, with the right width and length of shoulder.

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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
Sounds like someone who has sold and is currently selling Hurst shifters here on this forum. I am comparing what I have used, stock, Hurst Competition Plus, and MGW. Perhaps Hurst should only sell Billet Shifter then because the Competition Plus isn't worth it.

Don't believe the Hurst hype. They have the Billet in my opinion because the Comp was such crap. MGW's design and manufacture is great to start with. Hurst had their shot with my wallet, I'm not going to make another mistake and buy from them.
you are fully entitled to your opinion and I respect that. Its just as easy to go back to the same thing that comes up on this forum time and time again.. hurst postings that are highjacked by MGW fans.. Quite frankly you really need to re-think your posting on the Hurst comp plus being crap. Sure, I have sold some Hurst units on here (all of which are very happy people I might add), but considering that Ford, Shelby, Roush use the Hurst comp plus shifter exclusively, its safe to say they are hardly crap considering the magnitude of Original Equipment contracts.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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Well on mine in particular there was a lot of slop inside the mechanism. It didn't start out that way, but in the end I could pull up on the stick and it would move up almost 3/16". Now all the nuts and bolts were tight, but it still had this play inside the spherical bearing I guess, or with the retaining clip inside there. I will be sending it back to manufacturer, but I decided to get MGW on recommendations and am very happy. I don't know what I'm going to do with replaced or repaired Hurst when it comes back, but it won't go back in the Mustang. This is my experience in the matter and my opinion as I have said before, but it did in fact all happen and anyone else would feel the same if it happened to them.

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Others have posted about this problem. I just refused to let Hurst have another chance for my $180. There is a design and/or manufacturing flaw in the Comp Plus, therefore to me. its CRAP!

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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Yeah, you are probably right. Sometime back there was an issue with the internal bearing being out of tolerance range and that created some shifter slop. It was addressed and fixed. The bearings were changed in those shifters and the problem was solved.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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Yeah, you are probably right. Sometime back there was an issue with the internal bearing being out of tolerance range and that created some shifter slop. It was addressed and fixed. The bearings were changed in those shifters and the problem was solved.
See my post with pictures for proof above. If that doesn't say "piece of crap" to you I don't know what would..
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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wow, you really have pent up anger.. I'm really happy that MGW shifter worked well for you. God forbid if it didn't.
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