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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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i've had my car for around 3 weeks now and yesterday i grind first gear. it was an awful feelin knowing what just happened. i was bummed out and just want know what harm does it do to the gears or clutch?
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by chevy_slayer@April 25, 2005, 10:19 AM
i've had my car for around 3 weeks now and yesterday i grind first gear. it was an awful feelin knowing what just happened. i was bummed out and just want know what harm does it do to the gears or clutch?

Don't worry too much about. Not a big deal.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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yeah, no biggie, but do not keep on doin it...
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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It's not as bad as it sounds. Contiuous grinding can cause all sorts of issues but you shouldn't have any problems with missing a gear once or twice. Everyone on this board has ground a gear at some point so we know how you feel. Anyway over time this can damage the syncs and or damage the gears enough to need service. You also run the risk of bending forks and such if you mich a gear really hard.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by stoic21@April 25, 2005, 10:23 AM
It's not as bad as it sounds. Contiuous grinding can cause all sorts of issues but you shouldn't have any problems with missing a gear once or twice. Everyone on this board has ground a gear at some point so we know how you feel. Anyway over time this can damage the syncs and or damage the gears enough to need service. You also run the risk of bending forks and such if you miss a gear really hard. But all these take a while or a really intense situation.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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this is the 3rd time that has happened to me. its more of not putting first gear all the way in. none the less, its still a bad feeling. this is my first manual car and well got the car with only driven 2 times manual. :bang: :bang:
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by chevy_slayer@April 25, 2005, 10:33 AM
this is the 3rd time that has happened to me. its more of not putting first gear all the way in. none the less, its still a bad feeling. this is my first manual car and well got the car with only driven 2 times manual. :bang: :bang:

I've done it going to third a few times . . . I just yell out "GRIND ME A POUND OF THAT!" to make myself feel better...
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by RDSox04@April 25, 2005, 10:35 AM
I've done it going to third a few times . . . I just yell out "GRIND ME A POUND OF THAT!" to make myself feel better...
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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it happens.....but u would have to do it sooo much for it to mess anything up
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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Yeah as stated above, don't worry about it 3-4 times, but do not continually do it because it will hurt you in the long runk. :smack:

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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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As my father used to say when he would accidently grind the gears in his 76 Toyota Celica:

"Grind me a pound"

Edit: OOPs...sorry...didn't see that someone already beat me to it.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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For the first time since I got the car I miss shifted, or should I say the car goofed. I floored it in first, of course, let the rpms up to 5,000 rpm and then went to slam it into 2nd but it didn't slam. It got stuck in the neutral area. I had the clutch in all the way and no matter how many times I tried I could not get it to go into second, so I shifted it back into first, yes the clutch is still in all the way, and then I was able to shift into second. No idea what happened but what a pain. Good thing nobody was around but I am sure somebody hear me.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 02:36 PM
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Adrenalin, ive actually had the same thing happen to me in mine (i know the 6 and 8 have different trannies) and i had to go back to first to get it to go into 2nd. Then after going into 3rd or higher, it wouldnt let me go back to 2nd until i went to first. After i shut the car off, and turned it back on, everything went back to normal.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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One thing I can add to this (from experience) is that when you find you've missed a gear, it's VERY important to just let go and get the clutch back in as soon as possible. Of course, get your foot off the gas too as you do this. The longer you try and force it into the gear you've missed, while of course you've got your foot buried, the more damage you will do.

When I had my '97 Cobra, I had one of the early T-45s that hadn't had it's update. So I had all that gear ***** in second and sometimes forth. Well, I missed third once REAL bad in the heat of battle, and that was it for the T-45. At that point, she would't stay in 3rd, and was chinking in 2nd and sometimes 4th. It just wasn't worth fixing, I replaced it.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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My issue is in my 2000 ZX2.

After start up I sometimes have a hard time getting it to go into reverse.
Sometimes I have to put it back into 1st gear before it will go into reverse. (I leave it in 1st while parked with the e-brake, just in case e-brake fails)
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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I usually say 'Can't find'em, grind'em!'
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by PonyLover@April 25, 2005, 4:50 PM
My issue is in my 2000 ZX2.

After start up I sometimes have a hard time getting it to go into reverse.
Sometimes I have to put it back into 1st gear before it will go into reverse. (I leave it in 1st while parked with the e-brake, just in case e-brake fails)
Yeah, that's not uncommon. No synros in reverse. I don't know why they don't use them, I hate hearing a grind when shifting into revese sometimes. All cars do it too. I'm not 100% sure, but I think going to 5th then to reverse may solve both problems. I never remeber to try it.

I ground 3rd the first time I drove mine. The clutch starts engaging a lot sooner than anything I've driven. So far, with 50 miles under my belt, I'm still having a hard time getting used to the clutch.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by Sonic05+April 25, 2005, 5:09 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sonic05 @ April 25, 2005, 5:09 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-PonyLover@April 25, 2005, 4:50 PM
My issue is in my 2000 ZX2.

After start up I sometimes have a hard time getting it to go into reverse.
Sometimes I have to put it back into 1st gear before it will go into reverse. (I leave it in 1st while parked with the e-brake, just in case e-brake fails)
Yeah, that's not uncommon. No synros in reverse. I don't know why they don't use them, I hate hearing a grind when shifting into revese sometimes. All cars do it too. I'm not 100% sure, but I think going to 5th then to reverse may solve both problems. I never remeber to try it.

I ground 3rd the first time I drove mine. The clutch starts engaging a lot sooner than anything I've driven. So far, with 50 miles under my belt, I'm still having a hard time getting used to the clutch.
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I think the T-3650 in the 05 does have a synchronized reverse gear?
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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All of my prior stangs required putting it into first before reverse to sync the gears. I don't have to do that with my 05 and the gears never make the dreaded reverse gear grind.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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That is very good news Adrenalin. i hate the gear noise.

Come to think of it I think I remember having the same issue in the 98 Mustang I had.
Glad to hear that has been addressed with the 05's
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