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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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I'll jump in here, even though I'm not the expert. The answer is no. It will do one vevicle at a time. You return the stock tune to your 1st vehicle then put a tune in second vehicle. This just takes a matter of minutes. It's quick. But back to your main question, no just one at a time.
Like JR said in the video, load a tune in your tow truck, then when you get to the track, load tune into your towed Stang. All with just one tuner.
I've owened tuners in the past and it was one for each vehicle, no option.
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ARBO
I'll jump in here, even though I'm not the expert. The answer is no. It will do one vevicle at a time. You return the stock tune to your 1st vehicle then put a tune in second vehicle. This just takes a matter of minutes. It's quick. But back to your main question, no just one at a time.
Like JR said in the video, load a tune in your tow truck, then when you get to the track, load tune into your towed Stang. All with just one tuner.
I've owened tuners in the past and it was one for each vehicle, no option.
Oh, ok.

It still means that you can't have a tune installed in two of your vehicles at the same time with the same Fuego tuner. So really it's only beneficial for the hardcore drag racers.
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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Update from 12/26 post....continue to be pleased with the Fuego tune. As previously stated the throttle lag is gone and definately better performance plus....my average gas mileage is up by 1 1/2 to 2 MPG!!
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Blitz
Update from 12/26 post....continue to be pleased with the Fuego tune. As previously stated the throttle lag is gone and definately better performance plus....my average gas mileage is up by 1 1/2 to 2 MPG!!
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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Thumbs up All is well with the Fuego/CAI&MAF combo on my '07 Mustang GT

Thought that I'd update you regarding the GMS Fuego/CAI&MAF combo on "my" 2007 Mustang GT Convertible . . . it's perfect

After I gave "my" Mustang to my significant other (she's in another province), she was perplexed as to why I would even consider changing anything on a new car, "What's wrong with it? It's a new car."

My lady's comments after the CAI&MAF, "I can hear the motor now."

One week after I installed the Fuego tune with the 93 octane setting, "Now, when I step on it, it really goes." Obviously, JR's comment, "we address the drive by wire lag" is accurate.

I have no interest in "before & after" dyno comparisons. It's clear to me that we all have different "point of diminishing return" strategies.

A car is an "appliance" for my Bobbie and I do not believe that I could have gotten more performance for less money than I have (from the 2 GMS products that I purchased for "her" stang). She has the performance of a 2007 Ford Shelby GT Mustang, without the "stiff" ride (she does NOT like that) and I have saved a pile of money.

Now I can continue to buy more goodies for my 2002 Camaro SS . . . last month I purchased the MAF (350112-C) and Wire Set (28-1545S) from GMS for it.

Thanks JR!
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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I am glad to hear people are happy
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Old May 24, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Granatelli

I purchased the fuego tuner about 2 months ago and have been trying to get answers about it ever since. First off this tuner is absolute trash. Almost every claim Granatelli made about this tuner is false! Now going to the Granatelli web site I don't see this tuner offered. Has this been discontinued? There is no support for this tuner. Very frustrated. I feel like I have been ripped off. The standard tune on this is not different from stock. The only way to get response from it is to use the Advance tune section. Then it is hard to know if you are causing engine damage or not. WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY

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Old May 24, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FireFighterHill
the tuner looks alot like the predator
I am pretty sure it is a predator with different plastic. That doesn't mean the tune inside it is better/ worse.

Nothing like a dyno tune however.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Verted
Thought that I'd update you regarding the GMS Fuego/CAI&MAF combo on "my" 2007 Mustang GT Convertible . . . it's perfect

After I gave "my" Mustang to my significant other (she's in another province), she was perplexed as to why I would even consider changing anything on a new car, "What's wrong with it? It's a new car."

My lady's comments after the CAI&MAF, "I can hear the motor now."

One week after I installed the Fuego tune with the 93 octane setting, "Now, when I step on it, it really goes." Obviously, JR's comment, "we address the drive by wire lag" is accurate.

I have no interest in "before & after" dyno comparisons. It's clear to me that we all have different "point of diminishing return" strategies.

A car is an "appliance" for my Bobbie and I do not believe that I could have gotten more performance for less money than I have (from the 2 GMS products that I purchased for "her" stang). She has the performance of a 2007 Ford Shelby GT Mustang, without the "stiff" ride (she does NOT like that) and I have saved a pile of money.

Now I can continue to buy more goodies for my 2002 Camaro SS . . . last month I purchased the MAF (350112-C) and Wire Set (28-1545S) from GMS for it.

Thanks JR!
If it were my car ? I'd be very concerned and at least have a local dyno, check your Air/Fuel, to make sure that it's within safe levels..
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Old May 25, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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I don't see it on the website either
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Old May 26, 2007 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by kevinb120
I don't see it on the website either
Home page, scroll down, large picture lower lefthand corner.
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LBJay
Home page, scroll down, large picture lower lefthand corner.
That's an orphaned link because their website sucks too--as far as I can tell the product has been discontinued. It was grossly misrepresented by Granatelli's advertising there is NO data-logging capability, or PC software, or now, support of any kind...

I exchanged some emails with JR back in February regarding my helping them develop the PC software (they told me in a phone call that there had been some delays in getting it done--I do that sort of thing for a living). After a week or so he just dropped it and has never responded. Thing is, while he was jerking me around via email they were abandoning the product.

It may well be that they have some good other products, I'll never know because after the stuffing I got on the Fuego I will never buy anything from them again.

Also, wWhoever does their website is a jerk, check out this photo of a rear-end girdle;



It's upside down...
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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Some of us are loving this...
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by cliffyk
That's an orphaned link because their website sucks too--as far as I can tell the product has been discontinued.

Link works fine in my browser (IE 7). If you click on the type it takes you right to http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/fuego.htm


And it appears JEGS still has them listed.
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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Joe, I'm interested in getting the Granatelli CAI (#410040) for the new 08 GT that I have on order. Is it still possiable to get the deal for this that was given to TMS members in the past?

Originally Posted by Granatelli
I am glad to hear people are happy
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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Well, it appears that GMS nay sayers, such as myself, Don W. and Ski..were right all along !..Just goes to show, that when it comes to tuning our 05+ Stangs ? tuning should be left to the experts, such as Doug from bamachips and Brent from brenspeed, and not from some speed shop vendor, that comes across as a used car salesman, who misleads their customers, with inaccurate marketing claims, time and time again. First, it was his CAI that included a recalibrated MAF with jumper harness, in which was proven, could not function with a computer re-flash and then comes along, the Fuego programmer, that we now know, is also a complete flop..So what's going to be the next great invention, to go belly up ? Oh well, so much for nobody saying.. we told you so
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by LBJay
Link works fine in my browser (IE 7). If you click on the type it takes you right to http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/fuego.htm


And it appears JEGS still has them listed.
I didn't say it didn't work (broken), I said it was orphaned.

Yes, it does direct you to the BS page which includes "himself" spouting nearly complete untruths about the Fuego's capabilities--Specifically;
  • You can tune your tow-vehicle and track car both--this is true, however you can only do it 6 times before the unit will refuse to switch vehicles any longer. This fact is sort of mentioned in the hard copy on the web page where it states "Fuego allows you to tune up to 6 vehicles, 1 at a time". This is the only mention of this limitation I have found in any of the documentation;
  • Allows download of tunes and datalog to a PC--It does not, there is no PC software available for the unit (this is what I offered to help them develop), nor does the unit datalog at all. It has a realtime monitoring function that displays 5 mostly meaningless parameters (RPM, load %, ECT, IAT, and one other I can't remember right now)but that's it;
  • It does indeed have a USB port--however it's useless as there is no PC software for this tuner;
  • Assigns a file name to downloaded files "like a bin"--obviously it does not, as THERE IS NO PC SOFTWARE for this unit;
  • Allows selection of MAF and injector parameters--it does not, there is no mention in any of the screens of MAF and/or injector sizes;
This is the BS from the video, the text ad-copy also asserts that "Custom tunes and updates available through internet"--NOT; once again makes data logging claims--NOT; and makes a claim of fuel table tuning--NOT (the only fuel cutomisation is a boost or cut of -20% to +30% at WOT).

As for Jeg's still listing them you are correct, but since Jeg's has a class act they also gave a full refund including shipping to a fellow who had purchased one unaware of it's discontinued status, once I made him aware of same and he contacted Jeg's they made it right.

All this said, and as I said before, I find it to be a useful and actually pretty good tuning tool however Granatelli as a corporation and in the personification of JR are not to be trusted--they are deceitful liars who seems to have no qualms at all about abandoning their customers when something goes wrong, and I don't need that kind of crap...
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cliffyk
I didn't say it didn't work (broken), I said it was orphaned.
You said it was an orphaned link. (I do not think it means what you think it means)

3. Orphaned
Orphaned links are kissing cousins to broken links. They happen when you create a page but forget to link to it, mistype the link, or replace the link with another. The orphaned page is on your site, but no other page on your site links to it.
The Fuego may be an orphaned product ( ) but that is not an orphaned link.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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Hmm....

Now that people are complaining about the product I love how JR dissapears. He chimes right in once there is a good post. I will never buy anything from GMS again. Ever
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Well, let me clear some of this up from what I've observed. The Feugo DID indeed disappear from the website. This has been going on for months now. It has now re-appeared and if you follow along you'll notice that the part numbers have changed.

So, it's quite possible it's back again...maybe revamped... maybe not.

I wouldn't buy one.
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