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FRPP front/rear sway KIT: 6.5 hours install?????

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Old 9/5/07 | 10:54 AM
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FRPP front/rear sway KIT: 6.5 hours install?????

hi all,
my ford dealer told me FRPP says its 6.5 hours to install. Is this accurate?

Therefore, its about $650 to install this front/rear sway bar kit.

anybody install this? is it very difficult?

thanks!



Kit includes:
  • Front Ford Racing Swaybar
  • Rear Ford Racing Swaybar
  • Swaybar endlinks and urethane pivot bushings
  • All mounting hardware and instructions
Old 9/5/07 | 11:44 AM
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No...maybe 2 hours.Just make sure you have all the right sockets and wrenches before you start.
The first shop I had install the whole FRPP handling pack took less than 5 hours.Alignment included.That is a really nice kit you posted.
Old 9/5/07 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Poco
No...maybe 2 hours.Just make sure you have all the right sockets and wrenches before you start.
The first shop I had install the whole FRPP handling pack took less than 5 hours.Alignment included.That is a really nice kit you posted.
Thanks very much for this.

For just the sway bars, do i need alignment? thanks!
Old 9/5/07 | 12:00 PM
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I wouldn't have it aligned unless it tracks one way or the other.I set mine front sway bar in the center setting,its firm but not stiff.You will notice a big improvement on the lateral rollout when taking on a twisty road.
Old 9/5/07 | 12:03 PM
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thanks poco...

im looking to make my stang handle well on turns and windy roads instead of just STRAIGHT LINE driving.

i would my stang to stick to curve at pretty fast speeds instead of fearing that the rear end will slip out.

i hope these FRPP front/rear sways will do the trick to help here..
Old 9/5/07 | 12:06 PM
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You already have great tires for this,this will take it up a notch.My 06'GT was a fun ride up on mountain twisties,it was nearly the same set up you have.
Old 9/5/07 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Poco
You already have great tires for this,this will take it up a notch.My 06'GT was a fun ride up on mountain twisties,it was nearly the same set up you have.
thanks poco!

my buddy with his AWD '02 porsche 911 C4S said that his underpowered car will kill me on curves and windy roads. so, thats what made me want to make my car take turns/curves better
Old 9/5/07 | 12:16 PM
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Hey Yao,

6.5 hours!? Wow, we only charge 1.5 hours for a swaybar install. Talk about pacing yourself.
Old 9/5/07 | 01:13 PM
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The dealer must be slow in the service area..........
Old 9/5/07 | 03:15 PM
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yup, unless the reason you are getting it installed there for the warrenty i would find another place to do it, they are trying to get your cash dude. They will probably finish the job in 2 hours then leave your car up on the lift the rest of the time
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Originally Posted by StillenMustang07
Hey Yao,

6.5 hours!? Wow, we only charge 1.5 hours for a swaybar install. Talk about pacing yourself.
rediculous eh? man, ford service does not know what they are doin!

never again...

thanks brian!
Old 9/5/07 | 06:23 PM
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I stopped going to the dealer when they quoted me $250 to change my differential fluid. I honestly thought they misunderstood and quoted me for an entire differential change.
Old 9/5/07 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RedDragon777
yup, unless the reason you are getting it installed there for the warrenty i would find another place to do it, they are trying to get your cash dude. They will probably finish the job in 2 hours then leave your car up on the lift the rest of the time

Probably 2 hours to do the job and 4 more hours testing the new suspension!
Old 9/5/07 | 08:32 PM
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yeah can you imagion that test drive... Like the one from Ferris Bueller's day off...
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Be a man and install it yourself.
Old 9/5/07 | 09:51 PM
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How hard would the rear sway installation be to do in the garage? What would I need other than a small floor jack and two jack stands?

(Tools are not in question...I have TOO many of those it seems at times).
Old 9/5/07 | 10:03 PM
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OK, just so everyone realizes how simple this stuff is...

I bought springs over winter and dreaded putting them in.

I went out and got a compressor for $99 and an impact kit (sockets Metric and Standard), another $99, a low profile aluminum jack $75, a torque wrench $20, spring compressors $25, and an 18mm deep well socket $7.
($327 and I own the tools)

It took me 6.5 hours to do front and rear Steeda Competition springs the first time. I did a double check on everything first, looking at Taco Bills instructions. I then went s l o w and made sure I wasn't missing anything. I then went back and double checked each bolt with the torque wrench.

I did the wife's 06 Vert about a week later. Took me 3 hours 42 minutes (she reminded me every 30 mins that I promised her we would be going out to dinner).

My friend Eric came over and wanted his done, and with a little help we got it done in about 3 hours. Adding people doesn't always make for double time, but I had fun and ultimately everything came out fine.

Anyone in Milwaukee that wants to drop their S197, give me a PM and I'll help ya out. Now that I have a couple under my belt it's cake. I actually take my wheels off and go over all the nuts and bolts about once a month because of all the scare stories I read on this board. I never seem to have an issue, just peace of mind from checking. I also painted the calipers and installed some CHE LCAs and Panhard while I was digging around.
Old 9/7/07 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by shaun_beauchamp
OK, just so everyone realizes how simple this stuff is...
You're right, most of the bolt on installs are pretty simple, just intimidating for someone that doesn't do a lot of wrenching. Sometimes bad things happen--who hasn't broken a bolt off before or discover a missing part half way through?--but in general things go smoothly, AND you have the satisfaction of having done it your self. Yeah, headers were a ***** and having to loosen the engine off the mounts had me scared ****less, but not only did we get it done but my son and I then did his '87 OUTSIDE, on a COLD DAY in winter, ran into all sorts of issues but got it done. The only thing I couldn't tackle are the rear end and cams on my car. Now that I've seen the cams done, I'm likely to do those on my '97 this winter.

I did a similar kit on a earlier model Mustang and that took 3 hours. I can't imagine one for our S197s taking longer.

john
Old 9/7/07 | 09:16 AM
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loctite, new bolts...etc for FRPP sway bar KIT

Thanks everyone! this is great info.

for the FRPP front/rear sway kit include ALL the bolts, nuts necessary?

Do i need loctite?

the last thing i want is that noises appear

i worked so hard to get my car very solid and quiet now

thanks again all !
Old 9/7/07 | 09:52 AM
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The installation is very straight forward and the only tricks to a noise free install that I can think of are the following 2 points.
  • Tighten the end links with the vehicle weight on the suspension. This reduces the chance of the dreaded popping from the link moving around.
  • Make sure you put a fair amount of lube on the bushings (especially the rear swaybar). When the rear swaybar bushing gets dry it make a horrendous groaning noise when the suspension compresses.

Happy wrenching


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