I've never seen Chevron in the North. I avoid BP because their gas quality is poor. I just use Meijer gas (87) and never had a problem with detonation.

 

BP took over the Amoco stations a few years ago.
The station signs in my area say, "BP" and in small print, "Amoco fuels."

For the question raised though, I use Sunoco 93.

 

Why/how is BP's gas quality poor? It must be substantially decent as it's on every Mustang's gas cap..

 

Plenty!

 

I only use Chevron or Shell because they have no Ethenol, better gas mileage. BP/Amoco has up to 10% Ethenol which you will loose 2 to 3 mpg's. Just my thought!!!

 

I use Chevron (93 Oct) because it does not have ethanol, at least not up to this point. It seems like most all the other brands around here now do. Hopefully this trend won't get too prevalent. I can see opening my hood and/or trunk and there is an ad for McDonalds'

 

It's just from my experience with BP gas in this area. My MPG is always lower and it detonates/pings on 87 octane. This is the same for Sunoco and Marathon as well.

With Meijer 87 octane, I can nail the limiter in the first few gears using 87 octane without hearing any detonation or pinging.

 

Sunoco exclusively. BP uses Saudi dino and I don't want to put any money in their pockets.

 

I prefer VP to BP.

 

I remember when BP started showing up in our area. I was wondering where the hell they came from. All of a sudden all the stations were BP. I thought they were new. Then shortly after that I watched Mad Max, and there's a BP station in one of the shots. Then I put two and two together.

 

Recently bp either bought out arco or arco bought bp, not sure but arco gas was crap the last time I used it, maybe 15+ years ago. Caused pinging and I found water in my fuel filter.

Dunno if arco is a west coast thing or not.

The logo, luckily my car is an early 05 so it doesn't have it, is just marketing.

You can never be absolutely sure the gasoline you put in your car came from oil pumped from Iran or Venezuela. The oil is generally bought up and then processed elsewhere. So no telling where your gas is comming from. Who's to say a refinery doesn't supliment their gasoline supplies by purchasing it from other refineries who may buy oil from terroist nations.

 

Interestingly, BP is not listed as a "Top Tier" gasoline, so it can't be that BP is higher quality than the rest. The top tier list is:

QuikTrip
Chevron
Texaco
MFA Oil Co.
Conoco
Phillips 66
76
Entec Stations
Shell
The Somerset Refinery, Inc.
Kwik Trip / Kwik Star
Aloha Petroleum
Tri-Par Oil Co.
Turkey Hill Minit Markets
Mileage Stations
Chevron Canada
Shell Canada
Petro-Canada
Sunoco Canada

 

Interesting list. Sunoco USA isn't on it, but a small chain of mini-marts (Turkey Hill) is. I wonder what the criteria is for a top-tier gasoline?

 

More detergents, keeps engine cleaner...less deposits etc.

I actually only use 1 BP station in my area, The one bp station always grants me way better gas mileage, better performance than any other gasoline station around, probably because its a new station. Interestingly enough its the only gas station that I have to literaly flip the nozzle upside down to pump. Its very difficult to find a decent top tier station in NYC.

I also use gumout or chevron cleaner once a month or so, seems to keep me in the 20mpg city range.

I had severe issues with a local exxon 6months or so back. The gasoline must have been **** poor as my engine would fall flat on its face @3000rpm and I was completely stock running on 87octane, I got the worst fuel economy I ever had and I had to use some octane boosters (bad idea on new cars) to get a 1/4 tank or so low and start topping it off with 93octane every 1/8th tank to dilute the garbage in the gasoline, I never filled there again. I personally think its the quality of the station more than the gasoline though. The newer gas stations and older ones all get the same gasoline but the older ones generally have old tanks which sometimes leak both in and out. Water in gas is never a good thing.

 

I get the best mileage on Chevron 87 but it isn't sold here. I use Shell 87 because it doesn't have ethanol in it and I can tell the difference and get about 15-20 more miles per tankful. I used Meijer gas once for 2-3 tankfulls and got a Check engine light, dealer said their gas has to much sulfer in it and it coated the sensor in the tank. Also got bad mileage on Sunoco 87. They used Techron Fuel cleaner to fix the Meijer sulfer problem. Buy your gas at a station that sells a lot of gas, Its fresher and the tanks stay clean.

 

Walt, I would wonder the list being accurate as they have Sunoco Canada, but not Sunoco USA?

 

Jeff;

I did some searching. Looks like it's a panel made up of car companies that choose which gas qualifies as top-tier.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Tie...rgent_Gasoline
Personally, I think it's little more than a scam to steer people toward a specific brand of fuel. Sure there may be something to it, but I don't think I need an endorsement from GM or Toyota to know what I like and what works for my car.

 

Ford recommends British Petroleum .... but does British Petroleum recommend Ford ?

 

Good luck !....
: See Above. Virtually all major refineries probably have some crude from OPEC countries in their streams. There are some small refining and marketing companies that just use local sources -- for example, here in Montana we have a company called Cenex that has a refinery in Billings which probably gets most of its oil from the Williston Basin (Montana, North Dakota, and Saskatchewan). There are undoubtedly other entities like that in other oil regions of the country; Sinclair, in Salt Lake City, makes that claim, and Suncor, a refiner in Denver, gets its oil from only the US and Canada and markets in Colorado as Phillips 66. But as far as any of the big names, Mobil, Texaco, Marathon, Unocal, Chevron, Amoco, BP, Exxon, Conoco, Shell, Total, and any others with national names (as well as a lot of other names that are not national, but that are owned by bigger companies -- for example, here in Montana we have a local marketing company called Town Pump, which is owned by ExxonMobil), the likelihood is great that they get their gasoline from major refineries, and the likelihood is also great that those refineries get at least some of their crude from OPEC countries. Since about 40% of our total imports come from OPEC countries, it would be impossible to keep the big refineries going at the near-100% level (as they are at present) without that input. here is some interesting info.... http://www.gravmag.com/oil3.html#company

 

They recommend BP, as they purchased all the gas caps for the vehicle lines!!