DiabloSport Predator Update
7/8/05, 08:12 PM
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It does that at WOT already doesn't it :scratch: Mine does 
I've been EXTREMELY reluctant to upgrade, I'm still on r8, but my car runs so darn good, I don't wanna fix what ain't broke
I've been EXTREMELY reluctant to upgrade, I'm still on r8, but my car runs so darn good, I don't wanna fix what ain't broke
7/8/05, 08:40 PM
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Ok, now I follow what you're saying. Yeah that whole MPH thing for shift "firmness" confuzzled me, it certainly didn't make any sense, so I left that alone
Hmmmm, maybe I ought to get off my butt, go get a serial cable and power adapter and update this thing!
Ooooh, I just thought of a question, does anyone know the voltage required for the power adapter? I literally have dozens of adapters here at the ranch, but was suprised not to see the voltage printed on the unit as it is on most DC jacks :scratch:
I'll go sneak a peak in the manual again and see if it's listed there. Never mind me as I talk to myself
Found it
12 Volts DC / 1.0 Amp
Hmmmm, maybe I ought to get off my butt, go get a serial cable and power adapter and update this thing!
Ooooh, I just thought of a question, does anyone know the voltage required for the power adapter? I literally have dozens of adapters here at the ranch, but was suprised not to see the voltage printed on the unit as it is on most DC jacks :scratch:
I'll go sneak a peak in the manual again and see if it's listed there. Never mind me as I talk to myself
Found it
12 Volts DC / 1.0 Amp
7/10/05, 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by Blazing Saddles@July 8, 2005, 7:29 PM
Mine never did. I believe what was set in MPH was the shift schedule, not WOT shift points. You can now set the shift points by RPM.
Mine never did. I believe what was set in MPH was the shift schedule, not WOT shift points. You can now set the shift points by RPM.
7/11/05, 11:32 AM
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OK, I just updated to r22, and reflashed. [Note of caution: you'll need to flash the car back to stock before you update the Predator to r22, so make sure you have a copy of any custom tunes on your computer. I'm using the C&L-specific tune, so I made sure I had a copy of the .frg file to load back on the Predator after the r22 update.]
Having the ability to set the auto tranny WOT shift points by RPM is so nice! I set mine at about 5950, which according to my dyno numbers, is where rwhp starts to fall off. I also took George's advice from another thread and added a couple degrees of global timing and also advanced it in the 2K-4K range.
My "seat-of-the-pants-meter" on a test drive tells me it shifts a little firmer and pulls a little better. But, only the track or a dyno will tell for sure.
Having the ability to set the auto tranny WOT shift points by RPM is so nice! I set mine at about 5950, which according to my dyno numbers, is where rwhp starts to fall off. I also took George's advice from another thread and added a couple degrees of global timing and also advanced it in the 2K-4K range.
My "seat-of-the-pants-meter" on a test drive tells me it shifts a little firmer and pulls a little better. But, only the track or a dyno will tell for sure.
7/11/05, 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by 38special@July 11, 2005, 11:04 AM
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The revisions after r12 do not allow rev limit changes. :nono:
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The revisions after r12 do not allow rev limit changes. :nono:
7/11/05, 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by SixtySix@July 11, 2005, 11:23 AM
Well that bites, why in the heck did they do that! It's nice shifting my auto manually and letting it get near 7,000rpm between shifts <_<
Well that bites, why in the heck did they do that! It's nice shifting my auto manually and letting it get near 7,000rpm between shifts <_<
You can change the rev limiter to 7000rpms if you want to. I didn't, because my dyno curves showed a rwhp drop off after 6000 rpm. Going higher than that is of no value to me.
7/11/05, 03:03 PM
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Just the same, it seems C&L only needs 17 revisions to the else named 22!!!
The latest C&L tune revision allows rev increases up to 7000 in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears.
I can now go to the track and not have to put R12 on my car beforehand.
Because of my mods, I have made some other adjustments.
To those who care: I put 4 points to the rich at WOT in both power bands. This is where my dyno guy thinks it works best. I also subtract 5 points on global spark when running 87 with the 93 octane tune or -3 points when running the 91 octane tune.
It runs great. Even in the desert.
The latest C&L tune revision allows rev increases up to 7000 in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears.
I can now go to the track and not have to put R12 on my car beforehand.
Because of my mods, I have made some other adjustments.
To those who care: I put 4 points to the rich at WOT in both power bands. This is where my dyno guy thinks it works best. I also subtract 5 points on global spark when running 87 with the 93 octane tune or -3 points when running the 91 octane tune.
It runs great. Even in the desert.
7/11/05, 04:57 PM
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The auto trans cars will benefit most from r22... which allows adjusting the shift point by RPM (not MPH). It isn't the C&L tunes that allow rev limt increases, it is the Diablo software. The C&L tunes will work equally well with either r17 or r22... both allow adjusting the rev limiter up to 7000rpm. You just have to "modify parameters" before you reflash with the C&L tune.
I know this for sure... because I installed it today.
I know this for sure... because I installed it today.
7/11/05, 06:55 PM
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How long do we get to beat a dead horse?
As for R22 or R17(C&L) it allows us gear heads to be safe up to 7000 rpm.
I did not notice any other performance gains with R17, but I am sure that I will at the track since my 3rd to 4th gear shift will be at my maximum rpms possible in 3rd. Currently I hit the wall in 3rd before the car stops pulling, but R17 should fix this little issue.
How long do we get to beat a dead horse?
As for R22 or R17(C&L) it allows us gear heads to be safe up to 7000 rpm.
I did not notice any other performance gains with R17, but I am sure that I will at the track since my 3rd to 4th gear shift will be at my maximum rpms possible in 3rd. Currently I hit the wall in 3rd before the car stops pulling, but R17 should fix this little issue.
7/14/05, 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by SixtySix@July 11, 2005, 3:21 PM
On a horse with no name. It feels good to be back on the range
On a horse with no name. It feels good to be back on the range
Ah . . . pardon me . . no hijack intended but the line is . . . "It feels good to be out of the rain".