C&L Intake to 90MM in September
8/30/05, 02:48 PM
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There is a racer version that will be out next month. It will have a big mass air and a plastic inlet pipe. This is designed for serious naturally aspirated engines. As normal I will dyno it when they are done and have the packages available.
8/30/05, 02:51 PM
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Does that mean that you have to do something extra for that intake Brent?
My car should be here at the end of October or thereabouts and I'd like to get the best intake... but I'm not planning on modding too much besides that... maybe some flowmasters but that's about it.
My car should be here at the end of October or thereabouts and I'd like to get the best intake... but I'm not planning on modding too much besides that... maybe some flowmasters but that's about it.
8/30/05, 07:42 PM
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If all that it needs along with it is a tune i am in---i feel sorry for those who bought the 80mm with a tune though----i would assume there will be an SCT2 canned tune available?
8/30/05, 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by Patience@August 30, 2005, 6:45 PM
If all that it needs along with it is a tune i am in---i feel sorry for those who bought the 80mm with a tune though----i would assume there will be an SCT2 canned tune available?
If all that it needs along with it is a tune i am in---i feel sorry for those who bought the 80mm with a tune though----i would assume there will be an SCT2 canned tune available?
8/31/05, 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by don_w@August 30, 2005, 8:50 PM
No need to feel sorry for us... we have been enjoying the performance gain for months!!
No need to feel sorry for us... we have been enjoying the performance gain for months!!
true. true. by the way, is there a gain in gas mileage with the tune and intake combo? unleaded was as high as $3.35/gallon yesterday-- :shock:
8/31/05, 06:59 AM
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Originally posted by don_w@August 30, 2005, 8:50 PM
No need to feel sorry for us... we have been enjoying the performance gain for months!!
No need to feel sorry for us... we have been enjoying the performance gain for months!!
Also the word from C&L is there will be little to no gain on a stock mustang over the current C&L unit. In my opinion it will perform as well and if we get lucky maybe there will be a few more HP to be found. Remember this intake is scheduled for Septemember but with all new products that could turn into October or November.
Remember the new C&L inlet is PLASTIC, not the cool looking aluminum one that we all currently use.
Once they are out I will test both units back to back the week they are released.
For those of you who want to make your car faster now but want to wait on the air intake dont forget if you buy your X-calibrator from us you get free programs when you purchase the intake. That means you can get tuned for the stock air box now, and when you get an intake you can get the tunes for it at no charge.
8/31/05, 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by BRENSPEED@August 31, 2005, 7:02 AM
For those of you who want to make your car faster now but want to wait on the air intake dont forget if you buy your X-calibrator from us you get free programs when you purchase the intake. That means you can get tuned for the stock air box now, and when you get an intake you can get the tunes for it at no charge.
For those of you who want to make your car faster now but want to wait on the air intake dont forget if you buy your X-calibrator from us you get free programs when you purchase the intake. That means you can get tuned for the stock air box now, and when you get an intake you can get the tunes for it at no charge.
And MAN! That C&L DOES look GOOD! The 90mm (or 95mm) better make more power or I know I will be going with the handsome one instead. Can't wait.
What's the difference between something like this and a Shaker functional hood? Do they both do the same thing? Which is better for performace?
8/31/05, 09:23 PM
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Newbie to Newbie.
Obviously one is a intake system from the TB forward offering a larger diameter MAF, and tubing.
. And the other is good looking shaker that you cut a hole in your hood, and has a duct that feeds the stock box. I dont know first hand, but I would think a shaker could also be made to feed other CAI...even the one I have
As far as performance...man, I am not touching that
Obviously one is a intake system from the TB forward offering a larger diameter MAF, and tubing.
. And the other is good looking shaker that you cut a hole in your hood, and has a duct that feeds the stock box. I dont know first hand, but I would think a shaker could also be made to feed other CAI...even the one I have
As far as performance...man, I am not touching that
8/31/05, 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by 05STG1@August 31, 2005, 6:13 PM
Plastic is good....less heat transfer/soak.
Plastic is good....less heat transfer/soak.
I knew that Chemical Engineering degree would handy some day. hehe
8/31/05, 10:06 PM
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don_w,
Not quite. This is basically a forced convection system. Yes, the air isn't in there very long. But it can still transfer a lot of heat in that short amout of time. Why do you think drag races ice down the intake manifold before making a run? To cool it off (and it DEFINITELY has an impact on vehicle performance!). Think about this: air is flowing through an intercooler just as fast as it is the intake pipe. That manages to cool the air down upwards of 100 degrees (or more in some cases).
How hard do you really think it would be for that little 4 foot long tube to add 5 degrees to the intake air? Or maybe 10 degrees? That is enough to noticably affect performance.
Not quite. This is basically a forced convection system. Yes, the air isn't in there very long. But it can still transfer a lot of heat in that short amout of time. Why do you think drag races ice down the intake manifold before making a run? To cool it off (and it DEFINITELY has an impact on vehicle performance!). Think about this: air is flowing through an intercooler just as fast as it is the intake pipe. That manages to cool the air down upwards of 100 degrees (or more in some cases).
How hard do you really think it would be for that little 4 foot long tube to add 5 degrees to the intake air? Or maybe 10 degrees? That is enough to noticably affect performance.
8/31/05, 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by don_w@August 31, 2005, 10:44 PM
I knew that Chemical Engineering degree would handy some day. hehe
I knew that Chemical Engineering degree would handy some day. hehe
hehe
8/31/05, 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by RRRoamer@August 31, 2005, 9:09 PM
don_w,
Not quite. This is basically a forced convection system. Yes, the air isn't in there very long. But it can still transfer a lot of heat in that short amout of time. Why do you think drag races ice down the intake manifold before making a run? To cool it off (and it DEFINITELY has an impact on vehicle performance!). Think about this: air is flowing through an intercooler just as fast as it is the intake pipe. That manages to cool the air down upwards of 100 degrees (or more in some cases).
How hard do you really think it would be for that little 4 foot long tube to add 5 degrees to the intake air? Or maybe 10 degrees? That is enough to noticably affect performance.
don_w,
Not quite. This is basically a forced convection system. Yes, the air isn't in there very long. But it can still transfer a lot of heat in that short amout of time. Why do you think drag races ice down the intake manifold before making a run? To cool it off (and it DEFINITELY has an impact on vehicle performance!). Think about this: air is flowing through an intercooler just as fast as it is the intake pipe. That manages to cool the air down upwards of 100 degrees (or more in some cases).
How hard do you really think it would be for that little 4 foot long tube to add 5 degrees to the intake air? Or maybe 10 degrees? That is enough to noticably affect performance.
8/31/05, 11:30 PM
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RRRoamer I agree.
I know this one of those issues, but I do feel that that there is a benefit to plastic piping. They dont get hot or lets say "heat soaked" enough to pass that heat off to the incoming rush of air as fast as its moving, as a "metal" pipe is prone to, even a few degrees.
They certainly are not cooling the air as its entering, neither is the plastic piece. Also, the metal ones reach surface temps higher than the incoming ambient air, and stay hotter much, much longer.
I know this one of those issues, but I do feel that that there is a benefit to plastic piping. They dont get hot or lets say "heat soaked" enough to pass that heat off to the incoming rush of air as fast as its moving, as a "metal" pipe is prone to, even a few degrees.
They certainly are not cooling the air as its entering, neither is the plastic piece. Also, the metal ones reach surface temps higher than the incoming ambient air, and stay hotter much, much longer.