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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Best Handling mod for the money

I already have Eiback Pro Kit springs, so I was wondering what is the mod that has the best handling improvement to price ratio?
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Eibach Sway bars


I've never been into handleing but after putting them on ( a friend of mine works at eibach and got me a good deal)... they are by far the best mod i've ever done. I noticed a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig difference in handleing. I have mine set on the middle setting which makes the car neutral, no oversteer or understeer. Handles like it's on rails.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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That sounds great. I'll have to do that too. Is the installation very time intensive so I'd have to pay an installer a lot of money or is it relatively easy for them?
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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uhhhh...buy a BMW or a SUBARU....
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Hello Troll.

06GT: Are these them? http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/s...320&perfCode=S

If not, can you link me?
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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i really like my tokico shocks, the ability to turn them down to 3 when doing corners, 3/4 when at the drag strip, and 4/4 when driving around town is very nice. Other than that, i would say sway bars as well. Both are very easy mods you can do in a garage with some hand tools and some time. I did all the springs, shocks, panhard bar and brace, lower control arms, and gtrac brace in about 4 hours on a sunday afternoon.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by M6_I_SPANK_ALL_MUSTANGS
uhhhh...buy a BMW or a SUBARU....
Not only mustangs but clearly your monkey as well.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Besides answering this with the common "install xx part here" answer, I'll throw one back at you - what is your intended use for the vehicle? Are you just looking to have some fun with it, is it going to see auto-x duty, maybe open track events, drag racing, etc... they all play into a package approach to setting it up.

Also, sway bars, while they can definitely improve the "feel" are tuning aids for the suspension. Normally on a race car (or a serious street car) you're going to want to get in the ballpark with your spring rate (I'm assuming you are happy with the Eibach rates) and then fine-tune the car to your partcular tastes using things like different bar diameters, shock / strut valve settings, etc.

So while I'd love to give you a straight answer on this, there is a lot to it, and depending upon what you want and how you like your car set up there are a bunch of directions to go in.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Badandy
Hello Troll.

06GT: Are these them? http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/s...320&perfCode=S

If not, can you link me?

thats what i'm referring to.

It's easy to do with a basic tool set. Not hard at all. Maybe an hour or so depending on how much beer you consume and shooting the breeze with your buddies....
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by M6_I_SPANK_ALL_MUSTANGS
uhhhh...buy a BMW or a SUBARU....

BMW = gay driver or a chick

Subaru = young gay driver not out of the closet yet
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverHorseRacing
like different bar diameters, shock / strut valve settings, etc.

So while I'd love to give you a straight answer on this, there is a lot to it, and depending upon what you want and how you like your car set up there are a bunch of directions to go in.


True...

Straight line 1/4 mile cars dont have much use for a swaybar....

If straight line performance is your thing... my suggestion would be a set of slicks on some take-offs for track day.

Cornering track day kinda use... sway bar definately.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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This would just be for daily driving so turns are better and more fun

No racing or anything, just wanting to get my Mustang to handle more like some better-handling cars.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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Ok, well then I'm going to probably say the most noticeable difference for you would be a set of larger diameter bars and new endlinks / mounts for them. This isn't something it seems you're going to want to play with a bunch afterwards, and other than putting new shocks on to control the rebound rate of the springs and bars, the only other thing to do to help would be add more front camber and lighten the wheel / tire combo.

While the other guy might be a troll, and the S197 is light-years ahead of the Fox / SN95 cars, it is still a Mustang, and there are "other" cars out there that will show a Mustang nothing but tail lights on a good road course. To get the Mustang to handle like "better" cars takes quite a bit of work if you want to extract the maximum amount from it, while cars like a M3 or Corvette pretty much can just run away and hide from the factory the way they are setup.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Badandy
This would just be for daily driving so turns are better and more fun

No racing or anything, just wanting to get my Mustang to handle more like some better-handling cars.

The sway bar upgrade will definately do that.

My car handled like a new beast after putting the swaybars on. Go with the center hole on both sides for a start.

If your going to the trouble to install handleing parts, i suggest a open track day with some group to get the most out of it.

After my first open track day, my on-the-street driving style has changed a LOT. I don't go through canyons as fast anymore and my whole style has changed for the better. You can't drive as fast on the street as you can on the track and once you experience it, you'll know what i'm saying.

I didnt believe a friend of mine who does it and afterward i'm a believer.

swaybars.....

track day


You'll probably pass a few BMW's and Subaru's so don't be surprised if they don't talk to you.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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What do you mean that you don't go as fast and how your style has changed?

Should I get a dealer to install it, or can I do it myself? I'm not very mechanically inclined...
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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What do you mean that you don't go as fast and how your style has changed?

Should I get a dealer to install it, or can I do it myself? I'm not very mechanically inclined...

You can install it and if you live near LA, i could stop by and help you install them.

I used to drive pretty aggressivly and occasionlly liked to hit a canyon or two on the weekend and take some tight turns. (staying in my lane of coarse)... but after the track day and pushing my car hard... it's changed my outlook on driving fast on the street.

I can push my car harder on the track than on the street... now the streets and canyons don't hold any real excitement. Yes on the weekends I drive up/downt he canyon, but i take my time... drive the speed limit and just enjoy the drive. I'm no longer in a rush to dive into the next turn.

If your in LA.. you'll have to sign up for a track even.. with me if you want.. and we can get a few other mustangs and hit the track. There are a few coming up with the group i go with.. www.speedventures.com

it's more fun than you can have on the street.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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I am IN L.A. That would be pretty fun. First I will install those sways, exhaust (axleback), tune, CAI, then I'll maybe sign up for a track day and meet up with you and a few mustangs, that would be great. Thanks for the advice!
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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If you don't have a set of high(er) performance tires already, that would provide a good improvement in handling. If you that's been done, then anti-roll bars and brakes would be the next area to address.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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I still have my stock Pirelli P-Zero Rosso's on there

I'm definitely going to use them until they wear out. I have about 17k miles on them so far...
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 05:32 AM
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in addition to upgrading the swaybars, i'd consider upgrading the sturts as well
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