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Old 3/21/07, 12:29 PM
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Ancient Turbo Install

OK, it's not really Mustang Tech, but you turbo fans might like to know that the technology is not really new. It was used in Ye Olden Dayes. My other hobby is making models of WW II fighter planes. The P-47 Thunderbolt had an 2800 cubic inch, 18 cylinder radial engine that originally kicked out 2000 HP. They added an intercooled turbosupercharger, with about 25 lbs of boost at 35,000 ft., and water/alchohol injection. At "War Emergency Power" (30% over Military Power) it put out considerably more boost (its not clear how much), but could only be used for about 2 minutes. At that point the engine was putting out about 2800 HP or 1 HP/cubic inch. So, they had hot-rods in those days too. And, they used just about the same tech as we do now.
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Cool info! I'm still waiting to find myself a Tank Engine!! http://positiveapeindex.blogspot.com...nd-clever.html
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Funny you should mention that. Some fool on another forum was arguing with me about the fact that lots of aircraft use turbos in one form or another. I guess I was studying the wrong engines manual when I was in flight school...lol!
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I also believe some of the planes could use shots of nitrous oxide as well :-)
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And now we can easily get over 1HP/cubic inch naturally aspirated. Interesting stuff.
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The Luftwaffe was big on nitrous. The FW-190 and Bf-109 used it. I think a lot of GI's came home after WW II with knowledge about these types of things from their own planes or those of the enemy, and adapated the technology for their cars. We've probably benefited from a lot of warplane technology in our cars. We just can't have machine guns
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Originally Posted by Northwest GT
We just can't have machine guns
in most states anyway
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Here some more turbo trivia. One of the most efficient aircraft piston engines ever was the Wright Cyclone R3350. This was an 18 cylinder twin row turbo compound engine and was unique because there were three turbos, one for each set of 6 cylinders, that didn’t supply boost to the intake but were hooked directly to the crankshaft and added power to the engine. The early version of this engine powered the B-29 and later versions, with many improvements, powered many of the commercial airliners after the war like the Lockheed Constellation and Douglas DC-7.



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Originally Posted by Error404
I also believe some of the planes could use shots of nitrous oxide as well :-)

yes, i believe i read somewhere that they used nitrous in some old WWII fighters...
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I think turbosupercharging was developed because the performance of a supercharged engine was deemed inadequate at higher altitudes.

Just thought of something silly... (German accent) "Ya, zis plane is very fast - because ve use NOSz!" -Ze Fast und Ze Fuherious Oh, nevermind...
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Originally Posted by hi5.0
I think turbosupercharging was developed because the performance of a supercharged engine was deemed inadequate at higher altitudes.

Just thought of something silly... (German accent) "Ya, zis plane is very fast - because ve use NOSz!" -Ze Fast und Ze Fuherious Oh, nevermind...
Not the case at all. Engines could not operate at high altitudes without a supercharger. The 3350 mentioned above had a supercharger also. The engine replaced a 4360 cub in. that had four rows of seven cylinders. This was the largest radial aircraft engine ever produced. It was replaced with the 3350 turbo compounded motor mentioned above that made the same HP with less. You wind up a 3350 to military HP of 52 inches of manifold pressure, the four bladed prop is blowing more air that you have ever experienced and you have a tiger by the tail for sure. Great rush. Been there done that many times.
If I could get the same rush out of my S197 I would be a very happy camper but it looks like I need a turbo on it also.
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Originally Posted by theedge67
Cool info! I'm still waiting to find myself a Tank Engine!! http://positiveapeindex.blogspot.com...nd-clever.html
I think if I had a tank I would leave the engine in, but I like the concept.
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Hey Mongoose install this kit www.turbohorsepower.com/200506mustang1.html you will love it.



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Fighter technology

How do I adapt JATO to my '06 GT?
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Originally Posted by hi5.0
I think turbosupercharging was developed because the performance of a supercharged engine was deemed inadequate at higher altitudes.

Just thought of something silly... (German accent) "Ya, zis plane is very fast - because ve use NOSz!" -Ze Fast und Ze Fuherious Oh, nevermind...
OK Youi made me luagh
Das ist eine good Joke, Ya?
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