Automatic 1993 Mustang GT w/ 3.55 gears, ram air, equal length headers, and flowmaster mufflers.
versus
an Automatic 1988 Pontiac GTA with underdrive pulleys 3.27? gears, shorty headers and flowmaster muffler, and CAI.

Stock HP ratings for mustang gt in 93 is at 205hp
Stock ratings for GTA is 245hp

I think it would be close. What about you guys?

 

I think the GTA would take you...your 3.55s will not be enough...

 

I would agree. I think the GTA would win in this case.. if you had a 5-speed I might think different.

 

Yeah well I was thinking that too until I rode in his car and it does not pull at all as much as my car. Maybe he has something wrong with his car? Who knows I will find out when we race on a private road.

And my girlfriend wanted me to put this

 

lol, kinda funny. on tgo, a majority of people said the mustang would win. it seems like somethings going on with the trans, but more than likely its just me being kinda nuts about things. ive still gotta do suspension work on the car. oh, and the snow needs to dissapear too...

 

Waitaminute, wasnt the GT rated at 225hp???

 

ford changed the rating to 205hp in 1993.

 

Tuning matters here as well, especially with a few mods, I notice you didn't really see anything on that. It also might be worth it to mention more about the exhaust than simply 'Flowaster mufflers'. For example if he's running a generic, 2-1/4" 'Mr. Muffler' exhaust with a couple Flowmaster three chambers hung on it and you're running 3" mandrel bent pipes with an x-pipe the fact that you are both running Flowmasters doesn't mean much. (are you both still running cats?) Also worth mentioning is the fact that shorty headers likely aren't doing much for your buddy compared to your long tubes.

If your car is in a better state of tune, this combined with your gears and and apparent advantage in terms of exhaust (due to your headers) could get you past him. But the auto is definately a handicap for you and if your mods are as close to equality as your intial post indicates I would guess he should be faster than you unless something is wrong with his car.

 

Well for the sake of Fords everywhere, I hope I'm wrong.... but I would put the money on the GTA from what you've described. Along with my '06 I have a '92 GT (vert) that I bought brand new years ago... it has BBK cai, BBK 70mm throttlebody, Edlebrock Performer RPM intake, full offroad exhaust, 3.73 gears, etc. Still stock cam and heads; stock AUTO transmission. My '92 with those mods and auto will get smoked by my buddies '89 GT, completely 100% stock with a 5 speed. The auto in these cars really kills performance, even with mods and gears.

On a related note, my '92 with the mods listed dyno'ed at 197 horse at the wheels. My '06 with intake, pullies, midpipe, gears, and tune dyno'ed 303 horse on the same dyno, same day!

 

yikes man...foxes are sloths...I didnt know that.

 

I didn't mean that, only meant that AUTO Foxes are pretty slow compared to their 5speed counterpart. The 5 speed would be a better match against a GTA.

 

The GTA is still a late 80s F body which means it's screwed together like a POS and the interior is useless. Put a real motor and trans in your '93, eat up the GTA and be happy.

 

wow, that was kinda a low blow.
btw, to let ya know, im the person with the gta pats talking about racing.
the exhaust is stock, except for edelbrock shorty headers and a muffler. it has different manifold runners, a afpr set at the stock pressure, pulleys, and i still have to get under the car to figure out my gear ratio. oh, and an accel spark plug wire thats burnt through. the joy of buying a car that someone else has played with >_>

 

ok, now heres a question. how would pats car stand against a '07 shelby gt? old man just picked one up today.

 

Um I think I would lose to a Shelby no question... why are you giving me a low blow now with that? I have not said anything since post 4 lol.

And to the guy that said the F body is a POS well, for some reason everyone has said that thing can beat my car and it is older, so it is not a POS. But the interior I can agree is not my taste. Sorry Mike

 

nah, its cool. i still gotta fix the interior trim panel on the passenger side since the headliner was done.

hey, ill admit it any day, i prefer camaros and firebirds, BUT i also enjoy mustangs. gotta respect a car thats been around 40 + years. fords obviously doing something right.

and yea, pat, dont worry. id laugh if my dad even asked me to race his shelby. what a waste of gas for him.

 

Nice to see a GM fan on a Ford Board that isn't a troll. Props

 

lol, thank you very much.

 

Nah he is a troll... just waiting to strike at the right moment! He trolls all the time on the GameFaqs board lol j/k

 

thanks pat. ill remember that the next time you ask me to help fix your car.

btw, does anyone know the set production number for a '07 shelby gt?