GTO VS MUSTANG GT
7/6/05, 12:43 PM
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The look is much like alot of other new cars. Masive front ends. They put the same front end on the GTO as they did their truck. It might look good on the truck because of the size difference but it looks like it is a bit over stated to me. And besides it is suposed to be more of a sadan, room inside for those older persons who like luxury. I love muscle cars. And Mustangs are all muscle.
7/6/05, 01:13 PM
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Man, alot of you guys keep saying the stang is not cheaper than the GTO. I don't know about US prices but I do know about Canadian prices. MSRP on the Mustang GT I bought was $37,500.00. The GTO was priced out at $45,900.00 for comparible options (after converting US to canadian of course because the GTO is not good enough to be sold in Canada 
). Add our great taxes and you end up with over $10,000.00 difference between the 2 cars. For $10,000.00 I could do a lot of work to blow the GTO away, but even without doing alot of work to be a 1/2 second in the 1/4 mile slower is pretty impressive.
). Add our great taxes and you end up with over $10,000.00 difference between the 2 cars. For $10,000.00 I could do a lot of work to blow the GTO away, but even without doing alot of work to be a 1/2 second in the 1/4 mile slower is pretty impressive.
7/6/05, 01:19 PM
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I've seen zero to 60 times for the GT at anywhere between 5.2 and 5.5 seconds. And 14.3 on the 1/4 mile. Uh.... thats waaayyyy off. I wonder what they were launching at. What did they mistake the brake pedal for the gas pedal?!?!
7/6/05, 01:30 PM
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Whoever was driving the stang was a horrible driver too.
As for price - my loaded GT was $24,963.50 - cheaper than a used GTO.
My 1/4 mile time (Stock) was 13.77 - I'm a decent driver but could've gotten a better reaction time.
I'll still take my Stang over the Sunfire any day.
As for price - my loaded GT was $24,963.50 - cheaper than a used GTO.
My 1/4 mile time (Stock) was 13.77 - I'm a decent driver but could've gotten a better reaction time.
I'll still take my Stang over the Sunfire any day.
7/6/05, 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by SVTJayC@July 6, 2005, 10:56 AM
Eh, the 4 spd Hydramatic in the GTO is proven bulletproof. For a while they were even selling them out to BMW. While a 5 spd auto is certainly a good idea fuel wise, I don't think you can make a statement like that until the 5spd auto in the stang has proven itself under 300-400 ft lbs of torque over time.
Eh, the 4 spd Hydramatic in the GTO is proven bulletproof. For a while they were even selling them out to BMW. While a 5 spd auto is certainly a good idea fuel wise, I don't think you can make a statement like that until the 5spd auto in the stang has proven itself under 300-400 ft lbs of torque over time.
7/6/05, 02:12 PM
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Let me just say this I wanna see any GM product with the same horse power ratings touch a 05 stang or any Stang from when they introduced the camaro in 67 (except SE's). They always had bigger blocks always had more power hence of course they were faster but never by that much. Even now with 100 HP difference the GTO still is Slow in my eyes. It should have a 4.3 - 4.5 0-60 time and a mid 12's 1/4 time. Especially with those big hp and torque #'s. Sorry to all who see the GTO as fast but I DO NOT. Just like I never saw the Camaros and Firebirds as fast with there power ratings campared to a Mustang with less power and a small block right on its tail. Thats just my .02.
7/6/05, 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by SVTJayC@July 6, 2005, 4:01 PM
Well, except for the massive HP and Torque difference.
Well, except for the massive HP and Torque difference.
....coupled with the massive weight and handling differences.........
7/6/05, 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by ALLMINE65@July 6, 2005, 12:46 PM
The look is much like alot of other new cars. Masive front ends. They put the same front end on the GTO as they did their truck. It might look good on the truck because of the size difference but it looks like it is a bit over stated to me. And besides it is suposed to be more of a sadan, room inside for those older persons who like luxury. I love muscle cars. And Mustangs are all muscle.
The look is much like alot of other new cars. Masive front ends. They put the same front end on the GTO as they did their truck. It might look good on the truck because of the size difference but it looks like it is a bit over stated to me. And besides it is suposed to be more of a sadan, room inside for those older persons who like luxury. I love muscle cars. And Mustangs are all muscle.
You're confusing the Dodge Charger with the Pontiac GTO.
7/6/05, 03:49 PM
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I keep seeing the "massive power difference" mentioned. I can make any claim I want for HP. What does a GTO put to the ground compared to a Mustang? Depending on dyno, the Mustang makes 275 rwhp and 295 tq. The GTO 345 rwhp and 350 tq. Sounds like its less than 100, maybe 80 HP at the crank. The GTO does have a power advantage and an extra 200 pounds of weight. The GTOs power advantage will help at extreme speeds over 100 mph. I don't live in Germany so my top speed isn't an issue. You'll see the power in the GTOs trap speeds, but the ETs are real close. With the new 18" wheels and suspension tuning, the 06 GT might trim even the .4 second. Did someone mention a blower before?
7/7/05, 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by 6505pony@July 6, 2005, 3:40 PM
Hon, I think it's a little early for you to be hitting that bottle of sangria in the fridge because I know you haven't been in my beer in the garage.
You're confusing the Dodge Charger with the Pontiac GTO.
Hon, I think it's a little early for you to be hitting that bottle of sangria in the fridge because I know you haven't been in my beer in the garage.
You're confusing the Dodge Charger with the Pontiac GTO.
You are rite! Sorry Guys
7/8/05, 05:48 AM
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With a smaller engine and less HP, Ford has done a pretty good job keeping up with the bigger HP Chevy's over the years!
For the value, you can't beat a Mustang! Its been proven over and over again. 0-60 and quarter mile times never helped GM sell Trans Am's or Camero's. The GTO is soon to join them!
The only problem I have with Ford, is that they are too conservative. If there is one car that Ford needs to let loose, its the Mustang. I think this 300hp 4.6L was a good start, and the Shelby is going to be a monster. But, Ford should have a Supercharged 4.6L as an option on the Mustang GT.
Or they should design a whole new motor for the car. Maybe the 4.6L and 5.4L isn't the right fit?
For the value, you can't beat a Mustang! Its been proven over and over again. 0-60 and quarter mile times never helped GM sell Trans Am's or Camero's. The GTO is soon to join them!
The only problem I have with Ford, is that they are too conservative. If there is one car that Ford needs to let loose, its the Mustang. I think this 300hp 4.6L was a good start, and the Shelby is going to be a monster. But, Ford should have a Supercharged 4.6L as an option on the Mustang GT.
Or they should design a whole new motor for the car. Maybe the 4.6L and 5.4L isn't the right fit?
7/8/05, 06:45 PM
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It does seem Ford holds back the good stuff so they can milk you for a few extra bucks at FRPP or a speciality model. I beat they could get over 350 HP with better heads/intake/cams in the FRPP catalog. Probably add less than 2 grand to the base price done right. Still the GT engine is a strong runner for 4.6L and we are lucky to have it.
7/11/05, 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by mlcrisis@July 5, 2005, 6:04 PM
For the difference in price not to mention LOOKS, the Mustang still wins Hands Down in my book. There's not that much difference in the performance numbers, especially when you consider the 100 horsepower difference. See attached:
For the difference in price not to mention LOOKS, the Mustang still wins Hands Down in my book. There's not that much difference in the performance numbers, especially when you consider the 100 horsepower difference. See attached:
At the 1/8 track friday night some guy was there with a brand new GTO, 5spd. Talk about a drivers race, he couldn't get below 9.2 all night long. My best run was 9.00 with a 2.14 60' time.
7/12/05, 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by 1trickpony@July 8, 2005, 7:48 PM
It does seem Ford holds back the good stuff so they can milk you for a few extra bucks at FRPP or a speciality model. I beat they could get over 350 HP with better heads/intake/cams in the FRPP catalog. Probably add less than 2 grand to the base price done right. Still the GT engine is a strong runner for 4.6L and we are lucky to have it.
It does seem Ford holds back the good stuff so they can milk you for a few extra bucks at FRPP or a speciality model. I beat they could get over 350 HP with better heads/intake/cams in the FRPP catalog. Probably add less than 2 grand to the base price done right. Still the GT engine is a strong runner for 4.6L and we are lucky to have it.
It has definitely allowed them to keep their Mustang sales strong. Look how long they kept the platform around by offering intermediate and high end models of the Mustang.
7/12/05, 09:35 AM
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True, but I think they need to re-tune their strategy a bit. There are thousands of guys like me, who do not want to spend $40k on a Shelby, but want a special Mustang. Having us wait 3-5 years for an SE is ridiculous!
I understand their strategy, but with all the competition out there, Ford can't afford to be standing around with their hands in their pockets.
I understand their strategy, but with all the competition out there, Ford can't afford to be standing around with their hands in their pockets.
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